No Names Dominated World Series Of Poker

[jjgold]

Approx 55 bracelets given out and so called name players were no where to be found, when are places like full tilt going to stop paying the Matosow, Negrandua, Lederer, Chan, Helmouth, ect, ect. Luck Ivy won a few

Everyone plays poker now which makes the so called pro non existent

[Reload]

So many people out there now can do well in these tournaments. When the fields are as big as they are, it can take the spotlight away from the pro's pretty quick these days.

[UntilTheNDofTimE]

Well the field makes it that way, if your speculating that poker is more of a crapshoot then skill your very wrong, i play in small tournaments at a local casino 3-4 times a week and usually always place in the top 4 out of 27. Yet when they have there bigger 200 player tournaments its alot harder u got more squares playing stupid cards catching junk and with 9,000 competitors the pros suffer from this

[bettilimbroke999]

More unskilled players make it harder to win? How is skill a determining factor then?

[UntilTheNDofTimE]

Because when you have the better hand and a square pushes all in with A6 suited with QJ5 on the board and you have QJ and then he catches AA, thats not your fault and bigger fields do that

[bettilimbroke999]

So big tournaments are all luck and the reputations name pros have got by winning them are a joke and comparable to being a pro lotto winner

[UntilTheNDofTimE]

If thats how u feel pat yourself on the back for showing off your ignorance. As stated if you missed it or were too scenile to read the point of my post is its more difficult to get to final tables in bigger tournaments because of squares. It still takes the skill to build your stack to beable to handle these bad beats.

[hoopster42]

there are not many name pros out there any more, the name pros got their 'names' by winning bracelets when they were only playing other degenerate bettors, now there are fields of thousands on only a handful of name pros so they get ko'ed rather easily by the unskilled players staying in hands that they have no business being in and catching a lucky 2 or 4 outer on the river and ko'ing the pro

buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuttt

at least 1 big name pro, just one, should be able to avoid getting unlucky and make a run every yr

just one

[bettilimbroke999]

So they dont possess enough skill to overcome the bad beats or luck is the deciding factor in winning big poker tourneys, which is it, I dont get what you're trying to say

[jjgold]

More unskilled players make it harder to win? How is skill a determining factor then?

Case closed

More people that play at a poker table the less skill involved, poker is all about getting the cards which makes it 100% gambling and no different than BJ.

Poker does not require physical skill where you can dominate another person

In real pro sports amateurs have no shots, in poker they have a great shot to win

[Bread]

I've always enjoyed the serious poker player's dislike of playing with "squares" who don't know when to fold and catch a "garbage" card on the river.

Isn't one of the main elements of poker recognizing your opponents style and tendencies? Stop crying and play the game.

Point in case, yesterday when I was playing at the track, this guy was involved in a hand, and betting big with his superior hand. Some old dood kept calling to a showdown. Old dood had ZERO right being in this pot. I think he needed one card in the deck to make a hand. And he got it.

This other guy got so pissed, he threw his shades at the table and was irate that the guy stayed with him. And bitched about it for the next 30 mins. I laughed at him. A lot. Plus he smelled like throat cancer so whatever.

[UntilTheNDofTimE]

Poker is getting the cards? Thats why scotty wynn would push players off top pair with 2-7 offsuit? JJ you could get all the hand in the world if u couldnt play them right u wouldnt make it out of day 1,

[bettilimbroke999]

People get so upset at bad players, why, that's the only times I've really won alot is when donkeys are at the table, if a guy plays even or above you you're supposed to be happy and if he plays like shit you're supposed to get pissed

If you go all 80% favorite and get outdrawn don't cry like a baby be happy that a guy was willing to give you an even money bet that will hit 80%

[Bread]

People get so upset at bad players, why, that's the only times I've really won alot is when donkeys are at the table, if a guy plays even or above you you're supposed to be happy and if he plays like shit you're supposed to get pissed

If you go all 80% favorite and get outdrawn don't cry like a baby be happy that a guy was willing to give you an even money bet that will hit 80%

Agreed. Although the comedy of watching these guys flip their lids is hilarious to me.

[jjgold]

Anyone can learn poker, it is not even close to some superior skills that one need. Any kid from like 16 on can learn the same things as the pros and beat so called pros. Anyone cannot play pro football, nba, golf, tennis, ect. You need to be gifted and a freak of nature.

Poker is a game of luck, many bracelet winners of the so called sharps were won in small fields played mainly by people in Vegas and surrounding areas. Once poker got popular the pros vanished.

Why??? Most players have the same skills as them right off the street because of all the the info available on poker via pc/books,ect. and secondly guys with no clue play just for kicks and make it even harder.

If guys just for kicks played say football, golf, tennis, ect they would get fukkin destroyed by pros.

Poker is not a pro sport or so called pros

[KingRevolver]

Everyone plays poker but these companies need faces to bring more money in. Plus, JJGold, you're talking about tournaments. Lot of those players also play cash games (which you don't see on TV) and they make a lot of money that way.

[Bread]

MonkeyF0cker is the only pro I know.

[UntilTheNDofTimE]

Who said poker was a sport? Poker is gambling...
As daniel tosh said
" i wasxtalking to my kid one day and he asked me, daddy why arnt i going to college"(daniel replies), " cause im a shitty athlete i got ****ed on the river kid loan me 50 bucks"

[jjgold]

Put 9 pros in a poker tourney and add one guy that has basic knowledge of the game and he wins one out of every 15 times or so in a no limit game

No how can you say poker players are pros??

[UntilTheNDofTimE]

You have any stats to back that up i dont think hed win 1 in 50, put jj gold fergusen negreanu helmuth ivy scotty mein the master antonio esphandeari moneymaker and cunnighman u think ud even win 1 in 100? Lol