Oakland Raiders really suck. LOL

[pazim]

I don't think gruden was that great to begin with. Only championship he won was because of defense Tony Dungy left him with

[pavyracer]

Fire the coach and clean the house. I have never seen a more unprepared team week after week.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Fire the coach and clean the house. I have never seen a more unprepared team week after week.

Maybe so. But how do u EAT THAT CONTRACT?

The Vegas radio shows seem to think that Davis is cash-strapped (compared to the other NFL billionaires).

[Kermit]

Carr throws like a real fairy sometimes. When I watch the Raiders play, I can't tell if it's football or a Peter Pan musical.

[jjgold]

Gruden job already in jeopardy

The cheerleader thing does not work

[pavyracer]

Maybe so. But how do u EAT THAT CONTRACT?

The Vegas radio shows seem to think that Davis is cash-strapped (compared to the other NFL billionaires).

They should have put a clause in the contract regarding team performance. Contract is void if the coach can't win 4 games per season.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

They should have put a clause in the contract regarding team performance. Contract is void if the coach can't win 4 games per season.

Exactly, you can't win 3games and get that $$. Ridiculous.

[2daBank]

They somehow just keep getting worse! Lol. Unreal. In a league every scrub qb throws for 300+ Carr can’t throw for 2 bills!!

[shocka1212]

my giants may be a bad team... but atleast we didn't let Kalil Mack go to pay Derek carr's frail ass

[packerd_00]

I would be more worried about Fresno whipping that ass in MW title game. Boise could barely beat Nevada LOL

Yeah will see,dont get to ahead of yourself mate.We still got a game in Boise on November 9.

[thechaoz]

Lots of morons in this thread- that don’t understand football - gruden got a 10 year contract and obviously rebuilding the whole team - including Carr - this year and next year means nothing ... 2020 is when they open in Vegas - bump this thread in 2-4 years !!!

We will. Watching the Raiders continue to be the NFL stable for sucking brings joy to my heart. His first move was to dump a HOF defensive player?

Ok, way to start a rebuild.

[Darkside Magick]

Lots of rumor about this team... Heard Derek Carr be in locker room trying to preach the bible to everyone and not studying his playbook.. Gruden looking a Qb.. Didn't like Carr from day 1...some other stuff about the offensive line don't like Carr also

[cincinnatikid513]

jon gruden is over rated, wonder when oakland will try for a buyout and get rid of th is guy, he will prob come crawling back to espn in a year or 2

[ikid2groove415]

We will. Watching the Raiders continue to be the NFL stable for sucking brings joy to my heart. His first move was to dump a HOF defensive player?

Ok, way to start a rebuild.

Jimmy Johnson first year with Dallas 1-15 ? People said jimmy was a idiot for getting rid of herschel walker? Mack is not worth all that money - raiders defense suck with him last year - raiders would still be 1-5 with him this year !!! What good is winning 5-6-7 games every year? If your going suck - lose every game and GURANTEE Top 3 draft picks - it’s call rebuilding the right way - Stop betting on the raiders And bitching - they are not trying 2 win games - and that whole roster will be revamp - cooper/carr will be gone before they open in Vegas in 2020 -

[SBR_Guest_Pro]

They've always been a garbage team

[2daBank]

Lots of morons in this thread- that don’t understand football - gruden got a 10 year contract and obviously rebuilding the whole team - including Carr - this year and next year means nothing ... 2020 is when they open in Vegas - bump this thread in 2-4 years !!!

You being the top moron if you think this all part of grudens master plan. Lmfao. Talk about gullible!

[thechaoz]

Jimmy Johnson first year with Dallas 1-15 ? People said jimmy was a idiot for getting rid of herschel walker? Mack is not worth all that money - raiders defense suck with him last year - raiders would still be 1-5 with him this year !!! What good is winning 5-6-7 games every year? If your going suck - lose every game and GURANTEE Top 3 draft picks - it’s call rebuilding the right way - Stop betting on the raiders And bitching - they are not trying 2 win games - and that whole roster will be revamp - cooper/carr will be gone before they open in Vegas in 2020 -

I'm not bitching. The raiders have been trash for two decades. The Davis family are terrible owners.

Their fans are insufferable. Imagine if they were actually good.

[JMobile]

I bet Gruden wishes he never took the job. Lol

[ikid2groove415]

I bet Gruden wishes he never took the job. Lol

Who doesn’t want $100 million and total team control? What good is winning 4-5-6 games ? Lock up the Top 3 pick - jimmy Johnson went 1-15 his first year in Dallas - we know the rest of the story -

[thechaoz]

My Niners say hi

[ikid2groove415]

I'm not bitching. The raiders have been trash for two decades. The Davis family are terrible owners.

Their fans are insufferable. Imagine if they were actually good.

Man they don’t care about Oakland - it’s showtime in Vegas in 2020

[Seattle Slew]

Did Doug Martin screw up his career, or what? Guy is lucky he's even on a team. Terrible fumble that ended any chance they had today.

[NardVa]

What made the Raiders think Gruden was worth 100 million? Because he was a white guy with blonde hair? If Tony Dungy decided to coach again, would he get 100 million? Probably not even though Dungy was a better coach.

[Kermit]

Did Doug Martin screw up his career, or what? Guy is lucky he's even on a team. Terrible fumble that ended any chance they had today.

I had that dipshit in for Elliot's bye this week. Also have Carr as my #2 QB(2 QB league). Was hoping to get some more points on that drive.

[jtoler]

[ikid2groove415]

Oakland will be good relax - they weren’t going win anything this year - Real fans rooting for 1-15

[Fred The Hammer]

They scared me today. The Colts were my biggest play of the year. I thought Oakland might quit when Indy jumped out 10-0, but they played hard today. NFL players should play hard, but alot of them don't when their season is over early

[d2bets]

Oakland will be good relax - they weren’t going win anything this year - Real fans rooting for 1-15

Oakland will never be good. Las Vegas probably will be in a few years.

Problem is are Oakland natives supposed to keep rooting for Las Vegas?

[ikid2groove415]

Oakland will never be good. Las Vegas probably will be in a few years.

Problem is are Oakland natives supposed to keep rooting for Las Vegas?

I meant raiders

[ikid2groove415]

Oakland will never be good. Las Vegas probably will be in a few years.

Problem is are Oakland natives supposed to keep rooting for Las Vegas?

The raiders have a big fan following - especially in the LA market - reason NFL block them from returning -

[d2bets]

The raiders have a big fan following - especially in the LA market - reason NFL block them from returning -

Yeah. They're doing it eight. Completely tanking this season and next next and waiting for the Vegas move to start again.

[ikid2groove415]

Yeah. They're doing it eight. Completely tanking this season and next next and waiting for the Vegas move to start again.

Tanking wins bro - I auctually think it’s smart? Why would u wanna be 6-10 7-9 8-8? Definitely won’t get u a Top pick

[jjgold]

Cali sucks period

[d2bets]

Tanking wins bro - I auctually think it’s smart? Why would u wanna be 6-10 7-9 8-8? Definitely won’t get u a Top pick

I agree with you 100%. eight = right. typo

[ikid2groove415]

Raiders and 49ers this week TNF geez ...