So you think winning long term is impossible?

**danshan11** · 09-08-18, 10:29 AM

Originally posted by Alfa1234

What do you consider "small limits"?

this guys fake he just goes around touting stupid bettingresource, dont waste your time alfa, he is bettingresource or an affiliate but anyway every post is, you are doing great and btw bettingresource.

also dude I tried to look up a few games to get an idea on the line value but could not find a few, I did not put much effort into it was just curious. as far as finding outs , if you have consistent outs that let you just take their money, awesome. me personally I never have beat the line consistent and long enough to get blocked or banned. I have only 1 nba season and this is my first wnba and MLB season modeling, so not much sample size but again if the books just let you take money more power to you, best of luck, keep up the hard work!

**danshan11** · 09-08-18, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by danwinkler

Playing selective extremely small market is the best way to win your bets but even if you win long term it may not be enough to make significant income unless you live in a third world country because the limits are very small. Even if that is the case, books like bet365 that offers these markets will shut down your account once they realize that you have an edge on them on on a regular basis.

Its great if you can a find a book that will let you keep playing small markets regardless of how much you win.

In my opinion, if you want to make a living with sports betting, you must be able able to beat the major markets in the long run. If you can do that most offshore books will still kick you out or limit you and you will be left with the likes of pinnacle, bookmaker etc. But they are more than enough to keep earning as long as you keep winning in the long run.

Few years back I used to follow a service called "bettingresource" that has a perfect model to grind out and win long term with the major markets but I had to stop because of the time of their emails; its hard for me to follow them consistently due to work travel in different time zones.

really bettingresource has a long term winning model and you stopped the service why exactly? you were too wealthy to use their winning picks? couple questions about bettingresource.
do they just copy other peoples articles and put their name on them or is the other way around?
do they somewhere show the picks they made and the line they took them out and the line they closed at?
are you associated with bettingresourse as an affiliate or owner of bettingresource?

**Alfa1234** · 09-08-18, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by danshan11

this guys fake he just goes around touting stupid bettingresource, dont waste your time alfa, he is bettingresource or an affiliate but anyway every post is, you are doing great and btw bettingresource.

also dude I tried to look up a few games to get an idea on the line value but could not find a few, I did not put much effort into it was just curious. as far as finding outs , if you have consistent outs that let you just take their money, awesome. me personally I never have beat the line consistent and long enough to get blocked or banned. I have only 1 nba season and this is my first wnba and MLB season modeling, so not much sample size but again if the books just let you take money more power to you, best of luck, keep up the hard work!

Happy to give you the games you can't find (if I can still track them myself). Thanks for the nice words.

Update so far, up 25.44 units:

5/sep	Latvia Andorra BNTS	1,4	0,4
	Croatia Slovenia 1 min 19,5	1,8	-1
	Al Nasr Emirates Club 1 min 1,5	2,31	-1
	Connacht Zebre 1 min 12,5	1,87
	Racing Metro VS Agen 1 min 24,5	1,87
	Jorge Wilstermann Real Potosi O3,5	2,03	1,03
	Al sharjah al ain 1x	1,36	-1
	Ospreys Cheetas 1 min 19,5	1,87
	South Korea Costa Rica 1	2,02	1,02

7/sep	Hammarby Skovde 2 + 1,5	1,75	-1
	Serbia Macedonia U21 X2	6,5	-1
	Saracens Bristol 1 min 24,5	1,87
	Azerbaijan Kosovo O8,5 corners	2,1	1,1
	Gorna Oryahovitsa Duna Ruse 1x	2,19	1,19
	Barnsley Coventry U23 2	2,43	-1
	Balotesti Braila 1	1,75	-1
	Germany turkey 2	2,25	1,25
	Ajax Zwolle Women x2	6,5	-1
	Italy Poland U10,5 corners	1,85	-1
	Poland FaroeU21 X2	8,6	7,6

8/sep	Japan VS Costa Rica 2	6,21
	Montevideo Wanderes VS Fenix X2	2,01
	Werder Bremen VS Meppen X2	3,05	-1
	Kapfenberger Wolfsberger X2	1,51
	Kristianstads VS Grebbestads U2,5	2,23	-1
	Shenzhen Jiangqi X2	2,18	-1
	Montpellier VS Bordeaux Women X2	7,4	6,4
	Mauritania VS Burkina Faso X2	1,31
	Aidrie VS Sutton 1X	1,78
	Utsikens VS Oskarshamm 1X	1,6
	Dumbarton Vs Montrose 1	2,15
	Obolon VS Sumy O2,5	2,29
	Breidablik VS Thor women U2,5	2,81
	Slaven Belupo VS Inter Zapresic 1	1,72
	Bijelo Brdo VS Osijek 2	2,76


			25,44

**bhoor** · 09-08-18, 11:05 AM

Good job, Alfa.

**Alfa1234** · 09-08-18, 03:16 PM

Update with a bunch more games finished. +23.88 units now. Not a single losing day so far.

5/sep	Latvia Andorra BNTS	1,4	0,4
	Croatia Slovenia 1 min 19,5	1,8	-1
	Al Nasr Emirates Club 1 min 1,5	2,31	-1
	Connacht Zebre 1 min 12,5	1,87	0,87
	Racing Metro VS Agen 1 min 24,5	1,87	0,87
	Jorge Wilstermann Real Potosi O3,5	2,03	1,03
	Al sharjah al ain 1x	1,36	-1
	Ospreys Cheetas 1 min 19,5	1,87	0,87
	South Korea Costa Rica 1	2,02	1,02

7/sep	Hammarby Skovde 2 + 1,5	1,75	-1
	Serbia Macedonia U21 X2	6,5	-1
	Saracens Bristol 1 min 24,5	1,87	-1
	Azerbaijan Kosovo O8,5 corners	2,1	1,1
	Gorna Oryahovitsa Duna Ruse 1x	2,19	1,19
	Barnsley Coventry U23 2	2,43	-1
	Balotesti Braila 1	1,75	-1
	Germany turkey 2	2,25	1,25
	Ajax Zwolle Women x2	6,5	-1
	Italy Poland U10,5 corners	1,85	-1
	Poland FaroeU21 X2	8,6	7,6

8/sep	Japan VS Costa Rica 2	6,21
	Montevideo Wanderes VS Fenix X2	2,01
	Werder Bremen VS Meppen X2	3,05	-1
	Kapfenberger Wolfsberger X2	1,51	0,51
	Kristianstads VS Grebbestads U2,5	2,23	-1
	Shenzhen Jiangqi X2	2,18	-1
	Montpellier VS Bordeaux Women X2	7,4	6,4
	Mauritania VS Burkina Faso X2	1,31	-1
	Aidrie VS Sutton 1X	1,78	-1
	Utsikens VS Oskarshamm 1X	1,6	0,6
	Dumbarton Vs Montrose 1	2,15	-1
	Obolon VS Sumy O2,5	2,29	-1
	Breidablik VS Thor women U2,5	2,81	-1
	Slaven Belupo VS Inter Zapresic 1	1,72	0,72
	Bijelo Brdo VS Osijek 2	2,76


			23,88

**Alfa1234** · 09-09-18, 04:34 AM

9 Sept:

TPV Tampere VS TP-47 X2 at 3.85

**Alfa1234** · 09-09-18, 05:05 AM

Gibraltar VS Austria U21 BTS at 2.84

**Alfa1234** · 09-09-18, 06:24 AM

Metalurg Skopje VS Nexe Nasice 2 at 2.09

**Alfa1234** · 09-09-18, 08:02 AM

Hull VS Halifax 1 min 24.5 at 1.87

**Alfa1234** · 09-09-18, 08:41 AM

Vladikavkaz VS Stavropol O2.5 at 1.96
Nurnberg VS Dukla Prague x2 at 3.35

**Alfa1234** · 09-09-18, 09:00 AM

Besiktas VS Altinordu X2 at 3.4

**Alfa1234** · 09-09-18, 03:39 PM

Update. Up 21.94 units with 4 still open (Japan VS Costa Rica, Gibraltar VS Austria and 2x PSG VS St Etienne). Not a great weekend as I could be looking at the first 2 losing days.

7/sep	Hammarby Skovde 2 + 1,5	1,75	-1
	Serbia Macedonia U21 X2	6,5	-1
	Saracens Bristol 1 min 24,5	1,87	-1
	Azerbaijan Kosovo O8,5 corners	2,1	1,1
	Gorna Oryahovitsa Duna Ruse 1x	2,19	1,19
	Barnsley Coventry U23 2	2,43	-1
	Balotesti Braila 1	1,75	-1
	Germany turkey 2	2,25	1,25
	Ajax Zwolle Women x2	6,5	-1
	Italy Poland U10,5 corners	1,85	-1
	Poland FaroeU21 X2	8,6	7,6

8/sep	Japan VS Costa Rica 2	6,21
	Montevideo Wanderes VS Fenix X2	2,01	1,01
	Werder Bremen VS Meppen X2	3,05	-1
	Kapfenberger Wolfsberger X2	1,51	0,51
	Kristianstads VS Grebbestads U2,5	2,23	-1
	Shenzhen Jiangqi X2	2,18	-1
	Montpellier VS Bordeaux Women X2	7,4	6,4
	Mauritania VS Burkina Faso X2	1,31	-1
	Aidrie VS Sutton 1X	1,78	-1
	Utsikens VS Oskarshamm 1X	1,6	0,6
	Dumbarton Vs Montrose 1	2,15	-1
	Obolon VS Sumy O2,5	2,29	-1
	Breidablik VS Thor women U2,5	2,81	-1
	Slaven Belupo VS Inter Zapresic 1	1,72	0,72
	Bijelo Brdo VS Osijek 2	2,76	-1

9/sep	TVP Tampere VS TP 47 X2	3,85	-1
	Gibraltar VS Austria U21 BTS	2,84
	Metalurg Skopje VS Nexe 2	2,09	1,09
	Hull VS Halifax 1min 2,4,5	1,87	-1
	Nurnberg VS Dukla Prague X2	3,35	-1
	Vladikavkaz VS Dynamo Stavropol O2,5	1,96	0,96
	Besiktas VS Altinordu X2	3,4	-1




			21,94

**Alfa1234** · 09-10-18, 04:16 AM

10 sept:

Caykur Rizespor VS Bursaspor 1 at 2.31

**Alfa1234** · 09-10-18, 05:33 AM

Lafnitz VS Kapfenberger 1X at 1.87

**Alfa1234** · 09-10-18, 06:41 AM

Al Ain VS Al Nasr X2 at 2.11

**Alfa1234** · 09-10-18, 06:52 AM

Bahia VS Palmeiras 1X at 1.69

**Alfa1234** · 09-10-18, 07:07 AM

Brazil VS El Salvador BTS at 2.76

**Alfa1234** · 09-10-18, 07:26 AM

Nacional VS Capiata U2.5 at 1.85

**Alfa1234** · 09-10-18, 07:51 AM

Hungary Vs Montenegro U19 2 at 2.45

**Alfa1234** · 09-10-18, 08:12 AM

USA VS Mexico 1 at 3.48

**Alfa1234** · 09-10-18, 08:41 AM

Serbia VS Israel U19 U2.5 at 1.8

**Alfa1234** · 09-10-18, 08:57 AM

Moldova VS San Marino X2 at 6.5

**Alfa1234** · 09-17-18, 05:42 AM

Been taking some time off, house renovations etc, will be back later in the week.

Full update of all bets so far. Up 18.89 units.

31/aug	Kazma al tadamon	3,85	-1
	neman grodna	3,05	2,05
	mlada karvina	1,95	0,95
	getafe valladolid	2,19	-1
	south melbourne port melbourne	2,02	1,02
	newcastle saracens	1,87	0,87
	pyunik lori vanadzor	2,92	-1
	universidad catolica el nacional	1,78	0,78
	montpeller la roche	1,87	-1
	worcester wasps	3,2	-1
	worcester wasps	1,87	0,87

1/sep	nadal basilashvili	8,5	-1
	Parma juve	4,15	3,15
	shakhtar mariupol	3,01	-1
	Crystal palace southampton	3,85	2,85
	Krupa Mostar	2	1
	stuttgart bayern	2,1	1,1
	Nitra Zlate moravce	1,6	0,6
	eskisehirspor karabukspor	2,21	-1
	Wurzburger Wehen Wiesbaden	2,15	1,15
	Forward Linkoping	2,4	1,4
	Karlslund Syrianska	2,2	1,2
	Stade Tunisien Stade Gabesien	1,83	-1
	setubal belenenses u19	2,02	-1
	Castres Lyon	1,87	-1
	Skopje Shkendia	1,34	0,34

2/sep	Guangzhou Shanghai	2,17	1,17
	Dynamo Karpaty	5,75	4,75
	Lazio Frosinone	2	1
	Akropolis Karlstadt	1,85	-1
	Brno Ostrava	2,3	-1
	Kuala lumpur Felcra	2,02	1,02
	Alaska Aces Barangay Ginebra	2,4	1,4
	Plzen Spartak Prague	2,91	1,91
	Lokomotiv oslo Hodd	2,34	-1
	Middlesbrough aston villa U23	2,6	-1
	vardeneset lysekloster	2,8	-1
	torpedo Novgorod St petersburg	1,75	-1
	Lokomotiv oslo Hodd	4,11	-1
	Djokovic Sousa	9,9	-1
	holstebro skanderborg	2,05	-1
	Barcelona Huesca	2,34	-1
	PSg St Etienne	7,3	-1
	PSg St Etienne	2,46	-1
	Stabaek Nybergsund	2,51	1,51
	Ryazan Khimki	6,8	5,8

3/sep	Pribram Dukla Praha U21 X2	1,93	-1
	Wales Ireland 1	2,22	1,22
	Antwerp Standard R 1X	2,31	1,31
	Crystal Palace Barnsley X2	2,41	-1
	Hearts Dundee R X2	2,89	-1
	Charlton Nottingham U23 X2	1,61	0,61
	Charlton Nottingham U23 2	2,6	-1
	QPR Burnley U23 1	2	1
	Poland Suisse Ladies 1X	3,75	2,75
	Tonsberg Sandefjord X2	2,27	-1
	Djursland Jammerbught 1X	4,5	-1
	Bohemians Boleslav U21 2	1,67	0,67
	Serbie Denmark U19 1X	5,5	-1

5/sep	Latvia Andorra BNTS	1,4	0,4
	Croatia Slovenia 1 min 19,5	1,8	-1
	Al Nasr Emirates Club 1 min 1,5	2,31	-1
	Connacht Zebre 1 min 12,5	1,87	0,87
	Racing Metro VS Agen 1 min 24,5	1,87	0,87
	Jorge Wilstermann Real Potosi O3,5	2,03	1,03
	Al sharjah al ain 1x	1,36	-1
	Ospreys Cheetas 1 min 19,5	1,87	0,87
	South Korea Costa Rica 1	2,02	1,02

7/sep	Hammarby Skovde 2 + 1,5	1,75	-1
	Serbia Macedonia U21 X2	6,5	-1
	Saracens Bristol 1 min 24,5	1,87	-1
	Azerbaijan Kosovo O8,5 corners	2,1	1,1
	Gorna Oryahovitsa Duna Ruse 1x	2,19	1,19
	Barnsley Coventry U23 2	2,43	-1
	Balotesti Braila 1	1,75	-1
	Germany turkey 2	2,25	1,25
	Ajax Zwolle Women x2	6,5	-1
	Italy Poland U10,5 corners	1,85	-1
	Poland FaroeU21 X2	8,6	7,6

8/sep	Japan VS Costa Rica 2	6,21	-1
	Montevideo Wanderes VS Fenix X2	2,01	1,01
	Werder Bremen VS Meppen X2	3,05	-1
	Kapfenberger Wolfsberger X2	1,51	0,51
	Kristianstads VS Grebbestads U2,5	2,23	-1
	Shenzhen Jiangqi X2	2,18	-1
	Montpellier VS Bordeaux Women X2	7,4	6,4
	Mauritania VS Burkina Faso X2	1,31	-1
	Aidrie VS Sutton 1X	1,78	-1
	Utsikens VS Oskarshamm 1X	1,6	0,6
	Dumbarton Vs Montrose 1	2,15	-1
	Obolon VS Sumy O2,5	2,29	-1
	Breidablik VS Thor women U2,5	2,81	-1
	Slaven Belupo VS Inter Zapresic 1	1,72	0,72
	Bijelo Brdo VS Osijek 2	2,76	-1

9/sep	TVP Tampere VS TP 47 X2	3,85	-1
	Gibraltar VS Austria U21 BTS	2,84	-1
	Metalurg Skopje VS Nexe 2	2,09	1,09
	Hull VS Halifax 1min 2,4,5	1,87	-1
	Nurnberg VS Dukla Prague X2	3,35	-1
	Vladikavkaz VS Dynamo Stavropol O2,5	1,96	0,96
	Besiktas VS Altinordu X2	3,4	-1

10/sep	Caykur Rizespor VS Bursaspor 1	2,31	-1
	Lafnitz Vs Kapfenberger 1X	1,87	0,87
	Al Ain VS Al Nasr	2,11	1,11
	Bahia VS Palmeiras 1X	1,69	0,69
	Brazil Vs El Salvador BTS	2,76	-1
	Nacional VS Capiata U2,5	1,85	-1
	Hungary Vs Montenegro U19 2	2,45	-1
	USA Vs Mexico 1	3,48	2,48
	Serbia Vs Israel U19 U2,5	1,8	0,8
	Moldova Vs San Marino X2	6,5	-1



			18,89

**maritsa1819** · 09-17-18, 06:06 AM

U23 teams in England, what is max bet for that??

**Alfa1234** · 09-17-18, 06:25 AM

Originally posted by maritsa1819

U23 teams in England, what is max bet for that??

Roughly 1k here depending on the odds.

**Alfa1234** · 09-21-18, 07:04 AM

Back at it:

Buyuk Belediye VS Ankara U21 X2 at 2.6
Bursaspor VS Basaksehir U21 X2 at 2.05
Kabilio Jaffa VS Bikat Hayarden X2 at 2.01
Mladost VS Proleter X2 at 4.2
Shabab Al Ordon VS Al Wehdat 2 at 3.12

**Alfa1234** · 09-21-18, 07:07 AM

Leinster VS Edinburgh 1 min 17.5 at 1.87

**Alfa1234** · 09-21-18, 07:15 AM

Norwich VS Newcastle U21 1 at 2.15

**Alfa1234** · 09-21-18, 07:47 AM

San Miguel VS Almirante Brown 2 at 3.0

**Alfa1234** · 09-21-18, 07:50 AM

Leicester VS Worcester 2 + 15.5 at 1.87

**Alfa1234** · 09-21-18, 08:16 AM

The New Saints VS Bala X2 at 5.55

**Alfa1234** · 09-21-18, 08:53 AM

Excelsior Barendrecht VS Achilles Women X2 at 5.5

**Alfa1234** · 09-21-18, 09:01 AM

Viljandi VS Tammeka Tartu O3.5 at 2.51

**Alfa1234** · 09-21-18, 09:50 AM

Warta Poznan VS Rakow 1X at 1.88
Sepahan VS Foolad Khuzestan X2 at 1.95

**jjgold** · 09-21-18, 09:56 AM

Nobody wins long term unless you incorporate scalping and lots of bonuses