So you think winning long term is impossible?

**u21c3f6** · 09-02-18, 07:10 PM

Alfa, Be careful here because you just might make my point! At the moment, your profitability has absolutely nothing to do with BTCL.

Joe.

**jjgold** · 09-02-18, 07:13 PM

Don’t chase a dream like that or you’ll have an old car like most of us

**danshan11** · 09-02-18, 09:13 PM

Originally posted by u21c3f6

Alfa, Be careful here because you just might make my point! At the moment, your profitability has absolutely nothing to do with BTCL.

Joe.

you are right! Line value is overrated. Keep Rolling Alfa doing great! best of luck

**danshan11** · 09-02-18, 09:15 PM

Originally posted by KVB

Whaaat? Whaaaat does any of this post even mean?

This dude stuck on me now too?

We know dan, beating the closer over the long haul is a good indication of being a winner.

We know. You read like two gambling books and are spouting the same things over and over.

Don't be the guy that comes into the Forum telling sports gamblers how they will lose long term and act like it's some kind of amazing discovery.

Because you win...

Nice claim, you don't even track any significant number of plays and say things like this.

You have outright refused all help on any suggestions about even coming close to trying to answer the "only thing" you question. Even if you can narrow it down to 1 in 1000, you could still be that lucky, unskilled one.

You already have all the answers. You have made that clear. You only trust the closing line and everyone is a loser.

Except you.

Two books, maybe.

Do you even lift? Bro?

I know you want to internet fight, claim you know nothing, not want to learn, then claim you know everything, but I don't internet battle with trolls.

It's just not me. You're always fighting, so leave me out of whatever problems you have with opti or anyone else.

sorry please go on with your business, you leave me alone and I will not bother you, good luck!

**danshan11** · 09-02-18, 09:17 PM

Originally posted by Optional

Dayum, you go off like a fire cracker if questioned!!

Especially for a person who had just made a bunch of posts questioning and mocking someone else

I apologize you are the best, keep up the good work, if you could please just stay out of my threads and I will gladly stay out of yours, thanks and best of luck!

**bhoor** · 09-03-18, 12:32 AM

I believe Alfa is legit, too.

**Alfa1234** · 09-03-18, 03:37 AM

Originally posted by u21c3f6

Alfa, Be careful here because you just might make my point! At the moment, your profitability has absolutely nothing to do with BTCL.

Joe.

Check the odd I took. Now check the closing line for those bets (oddsportal works well). You'll see I am beating the line by a large margin in most cases.

**Alfa1234** · 09-03-18, 05:11 AM

Monday 3 sept:

Pribram Dukla Prague U21 X2 at 1.93

**jjgold** · 09-03-18, 05:22 AM

People end up with sad lives chasing the gambling dream

**grease lightnin** · 09-03-18, 05:49 AM

Have the lines you’ve been posting been available when you posted them?

**Alfa1234** · 09-03-18, 05:51 AM

Originally posted by grease lightnin

Have the lines you’ve been posting been available when you posted them?

Yes. Not for long though. Been trying to post a few seconds or minutes after I placed the bet.

Wales Ireland 1 at 2.22

**Alfa1234** · 09-03-18, 06:02 AM

Antwerp VS Standard Liege Reserves 1x at 2.31

**Alfa1234** · 09-03-18, 06:17 AM

Crystal Palace VS Barnsley U23 X2 at 2.43

**Optional** · 09-03-18, 06:19 AM

Originally posted by Alfa1234

True, but this site isn't only Americans...any European book has these matches and lines. I believe it's only a matter of time before US citizens get them as well. William Hill has all these games in Europe, no idea about their US book.

I agree this is coming for Americans.

And the insular way states are setting up looks like it will breed a bunch of different state-centric operators to me. Who will differentiate themselves by offering Euro style market options.

**Alfa1234** · 09-03-18, 07:24 AM

Hearts Dundee Reserves X2 at 2.89

**Alfa1234** · 09-03-18, 07:57 AM

A few more:

Charlton Nottingham U23 X2 at 1.61
Charlton Nottingham U23 2 at 2.6
Queens Park Rangers Burnley U23 1 at 2

**Alfa1234** · 09-03-18, 08:06 AM

Poland Switserland Women 1x at 3.75

**Alfa1234** · 09-03-18, 09:02 AM

Tonsberg Sandefjord X2 at 2.27
Djursland Jammerbught 1X at 4.5

**Alfa1234** · 09-03-18, 09:06 AM

Bohemians VS Mlada Bolesvlav U 21 2 at 1.67

**Alfa1234** · 09-03-18, 09:31 AM

Serbia Denmark U19 1X at 5.5

**Alfa1234** · 09-03-18, 09:59 AM

Done for the day. Update today:

3/sep	Pribram Dukla Praha U21 X2	1,93	-1
	Wales Ireland 1	2,22
	Antwerp Standard R 1X	2,31
	Crystal Palace Barnsley X2	2,41	-1
	Hearts Dundee R X2	2,89	-1
	Charlton Nottingham U23 X2	1,61	0,61
	Charlton Nottingham U23 2	2,6	-1
	QPR Burnley U23 1	2	1
	Poland Suisse Ladies 1X	3,75
	Tonsberg Sandefjord X2	2,27
	Djursland Jammerbught 1X	4,5
	Bohemians Boleslav U21 2	1,67
	Serbie Denmark U19 1X	5,5

**jjgold** · 09-03-18, 01:10 PM

Where are you betting all these games?

**cincinnatikid513** · 09-03-18, 01:17 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Where are you betting all these games?

must be europe or asia american books aren't going to offer these lower teir leagues the limits would be really low and only sharp people would play it plus no interest so most of these games we can not bet on

**Alfa1234** · 09-03-18, 06:22 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Where are you betting all these games?

Local betting shops. All European bookies have these games. Limits are decent (500 to 2k). I'm confident it's a matter of time before you'll be able to access them in the US as well.

**Alfa1234** · 09-03-18, 06:33 PM

Update:

2/sep	Guangzhou Shanghai	2,17	1,17
	Dynamo Karpaty	5,75	4,75
	Lazio Frosinone	2	1
	Akropolis Karlstadt	1,85	-1
	Brno Ostrava	2,3	-1
	Kuala lumpur Felcra	2,02	1,02
	Alaska Aces Barangay Ginebra	2,4	1,4
	Plzen Spartak Prague	2,91	1,91
	Lokomotiv oslo Hodd	2,34	-1
	Middlesbrough aston villa U23	2,6	-1
	vardeneset lysekloster	2,8	-1
	torpedo Novgorod St petersburg	1,75	-1
	Lokomotiv oslo Hodd	4,11	-1
	Djokovic Sousa	9,9	-1
	holstebro skanderborg	2,05	-1
	Barcelona Huesca	2,34	-1
	PSg St Etienne	7,3
	PSg St Etienne	2,46
	Stabaek Nybergsund	2,51	1,51
	Ryazan Khimki	6,8	5,8

3/sep	Pribram Dukla Praha U21 X2	1,93	-1
	Wales Ireland 1	2,22
	Antwerp Standard R 1X	2,31	1,31
	Crystal Palace Barnsley X2	2,41	-1
	Hearts Dundee R X2	2,89	-1
	Charlton Nottingham U23 X2	1,61	0,61
	Charlton Nottingham U23 2	2,6	-1
	QPR Burnley U23 1	2	1
	Poland Suisse Ladies 1X	3,75
	Tonsberg Sandefjord X2	2,27	-1
	Djursland Jammerbught 1X	4,5
	Bohemians Boleslav U21 2	1,67	0,67
	Serbie Denmark U19 1X	5,5	-1





			14,48

**Alfa1234** · 09-05-18, 07:18 AM

September 5:

Latvia Andorra BNTS at 1.4

**Alfa1234** · 09-05-18, 07:35 AM

Croatia Slovenia 1 min 19.5 at 1.8

**Alfa1234** · 09-05-18, 07:50 AM

Al Nasr VS Emirates Club 1 min 1.5 at 2.31

**Alfa1234** · 09-05-18, 08:12 AM

Racing Metro VS Agen 1 min 24.5 at 1.87
Connacht Zebre 1 min 12.5 at 1.87

**Alfa1234** · 09-05-18, 08:14 AM

Jorge Wilstermann VS Real Potosi O3.5 at 2.03

**Alfa1234** · 09-05-18, 08:51 AM

Ospreys VS Cheetas 1 min 19.5 at 1.87

**Alfa1234** · 09-05-18, 09:23 AM

South Korea VS Costa Rica 1 at 2.02

**Alfa1234** · 09-05-18, 03:57 PM

Update so far:

3/sep	Pribram Dukla Praha U21 X2	1,93	-1
	Wales Ireland 1	2,22
	Antwerp Standard R 1X	2,31	1,31
	Crystal Palace Barnsley X2	2,41	-1
	Hearts Dundee R X2	2,89	-1
	Charlton Nottingham U23 X2	1,61	0,61
	Charlton Nottingham U23 2	2,6	-1
	QPR Burnley U23 1	2	1
	Poland Suisse Ladies 1X	3,75	2,75
	Tonsberg Sandefjord X2	2,27	-1
	Djursland Jammerbught 1X	4,5	-1
	Bohemians Boleslav U21 2	1,67	0,67
	Serbie Denmark U19 1X	5,5	-1

5/sep	Latvia Andorra BNTS	1,4
	Croatia Slovenia 1 min 19,5	1,8	-1
	Al Nasr Emirates Club 1 min 1,5	2,31	-1
	Connacht Zebre 1 min 12,5	1,87
	Racing Metro VS Agen 1 min 24,5	1,87
	Jorge Wilstermann Real Potosi O3,5	2,03	1,03
	Al sharjah al ain 1x	1,36	-1
	Ospreys Cheetas 1 min 19,5	1,87
	South Korea Costa Rica 1	2,02




			14,26

**Alfa1234** · 09-07-18, 04:07 AM

Update:

3/sep	Pribram Dukla Praha U21 X2	1,93	-1
	Wales Ireland 1	2,22	1,22
	Antwerp Standard R 1X	2,31	1,31
	Crystal Palace Barnsley X2	2,41	-1
	Hearts Dundee R X2	2,89	-1
	Charlton Nottingham U23 X2	1,61	0,61
	Charlton Nottingham U23 2	2,6	-1
	QPR Burnley U23 1	2	1
	Poland Suisse Ladies 1X	3,75	2,75
	Tonsberg Sandefjord X2	2,27	-1
	Djursland Jammerbught 1X	4,5	-1
	Bohemians Boleslav U21 2	1,67	0,67
	Serbie Denmark U19 1X	5,5	-1

5/sep	Latvia Andorra BNTS	1,4	0,4
	Croatia Slovenia 1 min 19,5	1,8	-1
	Al Nasr Emirates Club 1 min 1,5	2,31	-1
	Connacht Zebre 1 min 12,5	1,87
	Racing Metro VS Agen 1 min 24,5	1,87
	Jorge Wilstermann Real Potosi O3,5	2,03	1,03
	Al sharjah al ain 1x	1,36	-1
	Ospreys Cheetas 1 min 19,5	1,87
	South Korea Costa Rica 1	2,02




			15,88

**Alfa1234** · 09-07-18, 05:55 AM

Friday 7 sept:

Hammarby Vs Skovde 2 +1.5 at 1.75