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  • englishmike
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 06-19-08
    • 5279

    #1
    PGA Tour Golf - AT&T National
    All Bets Are Betting WITHOUT Tiger Woods

    Anthony Kim I Unit Win @ 18-1 & 1 Unit Top 5 Finish @ 9-2 (BET365)

    Won this last year, finished 16th in the US Open and 11th last week, looks to be in best form for a while. I love this play, especially playing it with Tiger out of the equation.


    Ryan Moore 1 Unit Win @ 35-1 & 1 Unit Top 5 Finish @ 8.75-1 (Paddy Power)

    Missed three straight cuts and then finished 10th in the US Open & 4th in the Travelers so has obviously found some sort of form.


    Stuart Appleby 1/2 Unit Win @ 90-1 & 1/2 Unit Top 5 Finish @ 22.5-1 (Totesport)

    Seventh in this in 2005 and third in 2007. Although he has no worth while form of late, he obviously loves this course and was 30th in The Masters. 90-1 is a fair price without Woods.

    Chris Riley 1/2 Unit Win @ 150-1 & 1/2 Unit Top 5 Finish @ 37.5-1 (BET365)

    Last three finishes on Tour read 23, 29, 23, wouldn't take much to break through.

    All bets are WITHOUT Tiger Woods. 6 Units Invested.
  • Willie Bee
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-14-06
    • 15726

    #2
    Agree with you on Kim, going to look at it a bit more tomorrow. Sort of the tune-up for the Open Championship that is not too far off now.
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    • jkrap27
      SBR Hustler
      • 02-20-09
      • 75

      #3
      Casey at the bat

      3 top 10s in 9 pga tour events this season.

      last 2 events casey struck out but hell at least finish top 10 this week.
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      • smitch124
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 05-19-08
        • 12566

        #4
        Good Luck this week Mike
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        • englishmike
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 06-19-08
          • 5279

          #5
          Originally posted by jkrap27
          Casey at the bat

          3 top 10s in 9 pga tour events this season.

          last 2 events casey struck out but hell at least finish top 10 this week.
          He's played well in Europe too, he's got an outstanding chance this week.
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          • englishmike
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 06-19-08
            • 5279

            #6
            Originally posted by smitch124
            Good Luck this week Mike
            Thanks Smitch, likewise, I know you'll play.
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            • TheIntegrityKid
              SBR MVP
              • 06-08-09
              • 3063

              #7
              Riley to win!

              I'm gonna play that one...


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              • jjgold
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 07-20-05
                • 388179

                #8
                Tiger and also field
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                • Matt Rain
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 02-13-07
                  • 5001

                  #9
                  Thanks EM, played 'em all.
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                  • jjgold
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 07-20-05
                    • 388179

                    #10
                    If you take Tiger at like +150 and field like +150 it is not a bad bet actually
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                    • englishmike
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 06-19-08
                      • 5279

                      #11
                      JJ you lost me. Are you saying you can get +150 on both of those outcomes?
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                      • Matt Rain
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                        • 02-13-07
                        • 5001

                        #12
                        I think his "field" does not include the whole actual field.

                        JJ trying to be funny.
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                        • smitch124
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 05-19-08
                          • 12566

                          #13
                          Tidy little 62 by Kim to open play today
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                          • Matt Rain
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 02-13-07
                            • 5001

                            #14
                            Originally posted by smitch124
                            Tidy little 62 by Kim to open play today
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                            • jjgold
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 07-20-05
                              • 388179

                              #15
                              Originally posted by englishmike
                              JJ you lost me. Are you saying you can get +150 on both of those outcomes?

                              Rebatewager had Tiger at +150 then they had like 20 names with odds and then all other golfers (field +150)
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                              • TheIntegrityKid
                                SBR MVP
                                • 06-08-09
                                • 3063

                                #16
                                Damn... and to think I took Riley instead of Kim...

                                Good call Mike..Kim is gonna win this thing...


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                                • pavyracer
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 04-12-07
                                  • 82907

                                  #17
                                  Good luck Mike. Great picks.
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                                  • englishmike
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 06-19-08
                                    • 5279

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by TheIntegrityKid
                                    Damn... and to think I took Riley instead of Kim...

                                    Good call Mike..Kim is gonna win this thing...
                                    You're unfortunate to say the least. His last three finishes have been 23,29, and 23, so I figured that was either his high water mark or he was close to breaking through, which in turn made it impossible not to bet at 150-1. As it is he's three-over-par whilst the other three selections are 1st, 8th & 19th.

                                    I feel bad for you.
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                                    • englishmike
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 06-19-08
                                      • 5279

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by smitch124
                                      Tidy little 62 by Kim to open play today
                                      It's nice when it happens exactly the way you called it.

                                      It's been a while since I realised how much more enjoyable golf betting can be when you bet without Tiger!
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                                      • TheIntegrityKid
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 06-08-09
                                        • 3063

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by englishmike
                                        You're unfortunate to say the least. His last three finishes have been 23,29, and 23, so I figured that was either his high water mark or he was close to breaking through, which in turn made it impossible not to bet at 150-1. As it is he's three-over-par whilst the other three selections are 1st, 8th & 19th.

                                        I feel bad for you.

                                        It's all good.. I should've played it safer and went with your Kim pick, but I wanted the higher payout


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                                        • englishmike
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 06-19-08
                                          • 5279

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by TheIntegrityKid
                                          It's all good.. I should've played it safer and went with your Kim pick, but I wanted the higher payout
                                          It's always important to remember that whatever I say, they're 150-1 for a reason.

                                          The moral of the story is to bet less and split your money across all four, that's why I always try to use a Unit value for each pick so that people wishing to tail can get an idea of the perceived strength of each play.

                                          A $10 Unit play would have cost 60 Bucks this week.
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                                          • TheIntegrityKid
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 06-08-09
                                            • 3063

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by englishmike
                                            It's always important to remember that whatever I say, they're 150-1 for a reason.

                                            The moral of the story is to bet less and split your money across all four, that's why I always try to use a Unit value for each pick so that people wishing to tail can get an idea of the perceived strength of each play.

                                            A $10 Unit play would have cost 60 Bucks this week.

                                            Yeah, I'll take note of that next week... Was just thinking I'd only take one guy and see if you called out the high-paying underdog...

                                            Oh well.. Hope Kim gets it for you this week...


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                                            • pavyracer
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 04-12-07
                                              • 82907

                                              #23
                                              Fade Tiger Woods for the rest of his career. His knee is damaged goods and it affects his game more than you think. Ever since he married the Swede bomb his knees are always empty resulting in golf injuries.
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                                              • englishmike
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 06-19-08
                                                • 5279

                                                #24
                                                Fantastic start, no other way to describe it.

                                                18-1 Kim 1st
                                                90-1 Appleby 6th
                                                35-1 Moore 21st
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                                                • englishmike
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 06-19-08
                                                  • 5279

                                                  #25
                                                  Looks like a great week to have played without Woods.

                                                  18-1 Kim 2nd
                                                  90-1 Appleby 7th
                                                  35-1 Moore 7th
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                                                  • lakerboy
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 04-02-09
                                                    • 94383

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                    Fade Tiger Woods for the rest of his career. His knee is damaged goods and it affects his game more than you think. Ever since he married the Swede bomb his knees are always empty resulting in golf injuries.

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                                                    • jjgold
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 07-20-05
                                                      • 388179

                                                      #27
                                                      Tiger looks like he is going to pull away on weekend
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                                                      • shhhhh22
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 10-30-08
                                                        • 2357

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by englishmike
                                                        All Bets Are Betting WITHOUT Tiger Woods

                                                        Anthony Kim I Unit Win @ 18-1 & 1 Unit Top 5 Finish @ 9-2 (BET365)

                                                        Won this last year, finished 16th in the US Open and 11th last week, looks to be in best form for a while. I love this play, especially playing it with Tiger out of the equation.


                                                        Ryan Moore 1 Unit Win @ 35-1 & 1 Unit Top 5 Finish @ 8.75-1 (Paddy Power)

                                                        Missed three straight cuts and then finished 10th in the US Open & 4th in the Travelers so has obviously found some sort of form.


                                                        Stuart Appleby 1/2 Unit Win @ 90-1 & 1/2 Unit Top 5 Finish @ 22.5-1 (Totesport)

                                                        Seventh in this in 2005 and third in 2007. Although he has no worth while form of late, he obviously loves this course and was 30th in The Masters. 90-1 is a fair price without Woods.

                                                        Chris Riley 1/2 Unit Win @ 150-1 & 1/2 Unit Top 5 Finish @ 37.5-1 (BET365)

                                                        Last three finishes on Tour read 23, 29, 23, wouldn't take much to break through.

                                                        All bets are WITHOUT Tiger Woods. 6 Units Invested.
                                                        Impressive man.... Appleby probably a loser at this point but Kim and Moore and lookin great esp. for top 5 finish! nicely done!
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                                                        • englishmike
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 06-19-08
                                                          • 5279

                                                          #29
                                                          Thanks Ssshhh, we picked a good week to play without Woods but given it's his own tournament it was pretty easy to do.
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                                                          • englishmike
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 06-19-08
                                                            • 5279

                                                            #30
                                                            No other way to say it, Kim bottled not only his chance of winning but his chance to show he can look Tiger in the eye on a Sunday afternoon. His tee shots were woeful (left,left,left) and his putting cracked under pressure.

                                                            I've no doubt he can win tournaments but the surprise factor has gone for him and he'd need to be in a weaker type tournament at a decent price for me to go in again, I saw a lot of downside in Kim on the last day.

                                                            Had a really good run from two of my other three, lost half-a-unit.
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                                                            • shhhhh22
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 10-30-08
                                                              • 2357

                                                              #31
                                                              I agree... Kim is on the radar now. gotta lay off him and maybe play him in matchups....
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                                                              • englishmike
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 06-19-08
                                                                • 5279

                                                                #32
                                                                I agree, but from a betting point of view he's someone you've got to take very much on trust because his putting definetly didn't hold up from medium range when he needed to make them on the final day and that's worrying if you're considering investing.
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                                                                • jjgold
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                                  • 388179

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Mike I nailed last two tour events, I mean this one was a small profit but a win is a win on pga tour.

                                                                  Look forward to your next tourney write up
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