SBR: Let's Get Nicky's SBG Global Dispute Solved

[onthewhat]

The player was stiffed for $18k

Lets make some calls guys

[KingRevolver]

You mean Nicky stiffed them for 18k?

Let's make calls and make Nicky pay up!

[durito]

SBG global stiffs whomever they want whenever they want. Players, affiliates, employees. They took someone for 500k. They took 30k from crazy curious.

[Bill Dozer]

We talked to SBGglobal mgt. for months and they eventually gave him $10,000. Considering the subsequent stiff jobs he was fortunate. It was blatant theft.

[Nicky Santoro]

thanks onner.


billy d, i still won't forget how you helped me get paid back then.. you really put in a lot of effort for me.. thanks.

billy, I got lucky too.. you know what happened.. my bal was at 37k i believe.. mon morning, i asked for my 1st withdrawal on NETeller and the girl sent it to me right away. it was for 9500$.. she fukked up.. she wasn't supposed to do it.. the boss there told me she wasn't supposed to do it cause there was a note there not to do it.. so i got lucky..

then you came in and got me another 10k.. that was big..

now i am left with 18,300$.. so it could have been worse.

billy, if justin or anyone here can get me this 18,300.. i will take only half and i swear, the other half the 9k... i will put it up for free contests here at sbr, and of course give something to justin or whoever can get the money.

[pavyracer]

The statute of limitations for this case has passed. Nothing SBR can do now.

[jayc88]

why would someone send his money to sbglobal ?
It's like flushing money down the toilet

[Nicky Santoro]

why would someone send his money to sbglobal ?
It's like flushing money down the toilet

you're right, jason..

at that time, sbg was rated a C, and i figured with the big bonuses they were offering and them being such a big company, i'd take that chance.. I thought it would be worth the risk...but i paid big for this, but it's the only way you learn.. getting stiffed was a big lesson for me as it made me wake up and now i only play at wsex, pinny and matchy.. that's it...

[mbynwa]

Can i ask what happened please? has anyone got a link to the original thread.

[durito]

i didn't know sbg was ever as high as c

[onthewhat]

Lets get the player his 18k

No statute of limitations here

Michael Jack make some calls

[Nicky Santoro]

Can i ask what happened please? has anyone got a link to the original thread.

it was an outright stiff.. they called me up several times harassing me 23x for me to play there and he even offered me a big bonus. they let me play 2k a game to start. i was NEVER lowered my limits. when i signed up, i told the guy to make sure i can play there cause i was told by them 2 yrs prior i cant play there anymore. the guy told me no prob sir, it is 2 diff accts and 2 diff companies..(sbr had a sister book).and that he asked and they said No PROB.. i repeated to him, are you sure? he said yes.. np..

then when my acct went to 18,300 and i asked for a 1st WD, they said they already told me i could NOT play there, so they are not paying me.. but the fukkin clerk told me it's ok and we had it on tape of him saying this too.. but he refused still to pay me a cent. He said i should have known..

they left me alone playing the limit and it was ok and i was winning.. but once i asked for a WD, they said NO and closed my acct. So the clerk tells me it's ok and he made sure by asking.. then i win, then they say i was not supposed to play there..

basically, they took a shot at me..

[KingRevolver]

why would someone send his money to sbglobal ?
It's like flushing money down the toilet

Yeah - if you want to throw your money away - you should break a car part and take your car to the dealership.

At least this way you're pumping money into the U.S. economy

[Bill Dozer]

it was an outright stiff.. they called me up several times harassing me 23x for me to play there and he even offered me a big bonus. they let me play 2k a game to start. i was NEVER lowered my limits. when i signed up, i told the guy to make sure i can play there cause i was told by them 2 yrs prior i cant play there anymore. the guy told me no prob sir, it is 2 diff accts and 2 diff companies..(sbr had a sister book).and that he asked and they said No PROB.. i repeated to him, are you sure? he said yes.. np..

then when my acct went to 18,300 and i asked for a 1st WD, they said they already told me i could NOT play there, so they are not paying me.. but the fukkin clerk told me it's ok and we had it on tape of him saying this too.. but he refused still to pay me a cent. He said i should have known..

they left me alone playing the limit and it was ok and i was winning.. but once i asked for a WD, they said NO and closed my acct. So the clerk tells me it's ok and he made sure by asking.. then i win, then they say i was not supposed to play there..

basically, they took a shot at me..

Their reasoning was that you played at Sports-Gambling.com and should not have had an account at SBG. It was one of those cases where they want to try to debate it as if it was controversial... like the Oddsmaker case, it was theft.

We talked about the how SBG didn't even own that site when you played there and they took a shot at your money when you never could win.

Nicky, Anytime SBG staffers call we bring up your case as one of the ones to revisit. Hopefully one of these times the bottom line makes sense for them and they pay you, Curious, the guys from Sunset and Playerstime, and the rest.

[onthewhat]

Good work on getting him part of the money Dozer.

[themajormt]

I think it is very funny how the players and SBR and then MAYBE EOG a little bit govern the industry like it does. If the players didnt have this platform these businesses would be like the wild wild west. It amazes me what these shops do and get away with still do this day with all the technology at our disposal....

[Nicky Santoro]

Good work on getting him part of the money Dozer.

yeah, i admit, billy d was the only guy that really put his effort into this.. no one else did. i asked rx and all their mods avoided this like the plague. but not billy d.. i'll never forget that hot summer day i was at Old Montreal on a boat tour with a buddy when i was out in the 98 deg weather and my cell would ring and who was it, none other than billy d discussing this with me and telling me that he spoke to sbg and they are willing to pay me 10k.. we even exchanged emails for months.. he was always helpful..and this was about 3.5 yrs ago.. and i wasn't at sbr yet and i only knew billy from posting..

thanks billy..

[durito]

Lets get the player his 18k

No statute of limitations here

Michael Jack make some calls

any concern for all the other players they've stiffed through the years?

[AMBlai01]

Unreal story...sorry to hear that they still owe you money but happy to hear that you got a lot more than a lot of other guys.....

[JBC77]

why would someone send his money to sbglobal ?
It's like flushing money down the toilet

Bingo. Finally an intelligent poster.

They've been a well known gang of thieves for years now. If I'm not mistaken their pals and advertisers of Ken Weitz-Jew over at the forum Eye For Ripping Players OFF A.K.A EOG.

[durito]

Does bad@math.com know that his favorite book stole from his hero Nicky?

4/22/2009 01:23 PM
sbg Global (SBR rating D-) cancels futures wagers on Formula 1 World Championships
Three players wrote SBR with similar complaints. Each player had wagered on Jenson Button to win the Formula 1 World Championship at the odds of 70:1. At the time these wagers were placed the betting market, including Bookmaker (SBR rating A+),The Greek (SBR rating A+) and Betfair (SBR rating A+), was offering similar betting odds. sbg waited until Jenson Button won the first two Formula 1 races, voided the wagers, and offered to reinstate the bets at 10:1. sbg is wrongly applying the "gross or obvious error" rule to these bets. The line was not offered in error. sbgglobal bettors are victim of outright theft. This sportsbook has a long history of cheating players. sbg management would not discuss the cancellations with SBR.

11/15/2006 02:16 AM
SBGglobal (SBR rating D-) steals $25,000 from player
The bettor was credited with a $7,500 "bailout" after PlayersTime (SBR rating F) closed. A three time roll-over (wagering a total of $22,500) was required. The player wagered his funds for two months surpassing the rollover requirement and winning his balance, which then should have been his free and clear, up to $25,000. SBG confiscated this money, again citing "sharp action" as a reason for deleting player balances. SBG also tells SBR that the player was able to wager $2,000 per parlay and should have been limited to $1,000 despite what the software allowed him to risk. This same operation also stiffed players whose accounts were purchased from SunsetSports (SBR rating F), claiming the players violated rules by being sharp and having "inside info". The total amount reported stolen by SBG Global in the past year exceeds $80,000.

7/21/2008 11:43 PM
Player files $500,000 complaint against BetRoyal (SBR rating D-)
SBR Justin investigated the available facts of the complaint. In 2004 a group of players were invited by BetRoyal management to trade prices and betting odds at BetRoyal against other sportsbooks . The manager who had made the arrangement had taken a position with BetUS (SBR rating D+) before this issue emerged.

BetRoyal management would often solicit sharp players to bet off action they did not want while offering them special low juice, or even no juice lines, to increase liquidity. For example, if the sportsbook felt it had too much exposure on one play or wanted to gamble on the other team, it would make the applicable vig pricing appealing for their players that were known to trade on the sports betting market. The sportsbook was aware that at least two individuals were placing wagers on this account. The deposited funds initially lost but the invested $85,000 in deposits eventually earned a balance of $586,000. Several days before sbgglobal (SBR rating D-) completed its buyout of BetRoyal last year, the Royal website was taken off of the servers. When the site returned on the sbg platform, all winnings were removed from the account.

During the investigation, Royal, which was known for odd player arrangements and high risk bookmaking models, claimed that it had an agreement with the account holder that he would never take out winnings – only deposits. Royal claimed that the players were using some sort of hedging strategy where they would guarantee that they lost money at Royal, and won at other books. Royal offered no solid proof of this, often referring to the deal as something arranged independently by the manager that had moved on. The account holder denies there was any such agreement to “not withdraw winnings.” He rightfully points out that such an arrangement is not logical and describes a scenario where the account could only lose money. SBR told Royal that their explanation was not believable. The account holder believes BetRoyal erased the winnings in order to take $500,000 in liabilities off the books before selling to sbg Global.

10/21/2007 08:49 PM
BetRoyal (SBR rating D-) ends "fraud investigation;" steals winnings
BetRoyal confiscates what is estimated to be just over six figures in winnings from 18 players that were also subscribers to the same sports handicapping service. The book paid a tout to refer these players to BetRoyal. The players, which were clearly sourced from the pick service, made money playing the pay-for picks at BetRoyal. BetRoyal was later purchased by sbg Global (SBR rating D-) in June. sbg was asked if they wanted to continue doing business with these winning customers by both the pick service and the players' account manager. sbg management was able to review the account activity and reaffirm that they wanted to book action from these players. The house continued to lose on these plays until management froze the accounts for an "investigation." sbg is known for freezing accounts prior to confiscating funds. This tactic is used to guage backlash from users and the negative effect on current marketing investments; legitimze the claim that there may have been fraud and something to actually investigate, and to simply stall from having to deal with victims when they are most upset. | Recent sbg Global theft

11/8/2006 10:58 PM
sbg Global (SBR rating D-) confiscates $56,660 before paying a take-it-or-leave-it "settlement" in the amount of $21,000. The account was opened with $800 by a woman who won $50,000 in the casino then withdrew $15,000. The woman’s husband verified with sbg Global that he was eligible to place wagers on the account before losing bets on sporting events bringing the balance down to $15,000. The following weekend he won wagers on college football and week 4 of the NFL, bringing the balance from $15,000 to $56,660. sbg zeroed out the account the following Monday morning, claiming the husband was not allowed to wager under the account. After the account holder filed the complaint with SBR, sbg altered the wording of the rules regarding third party account access.

8/21/2006 01:20 PM
sbg Global (SBR rating D) gives player back amount he deposited, $10,500 of $28,821 balance
Management tells SBR the total balance of $28,821 was originally confiscated six months ago because the user had an account with the company’s other sportsbook, Sports-Gambling.com, where he gave "professional action". This player wagered at sbg Global for two months, meeting his bonus rollover requirement. In that time the account was reviewed resulting in a reduction in betting limits. sbg purchased Sports-Gambling in March of 2005, after the player was asked to leave Sports-Gambling. sbg states they will keep the player’s $18,321 in winnings.

[tacomax]

Try suing them like curious did.

I am suing SBG Global, I hired the best RICO law firm in the country. You are just upset because I refuse to give you any details so you can report them to SBG Global like you did with other information I gave you when you pretended to be a victim of Bet Royal / SBG Global.

[Emily_Haines]

How about me getting my money from that cokksucker Lenny?

[Nicky Santoro]

i am sure 94% of gamblers here who have been betting offshore for over 5 yrs have all been stiffed at least once. if not, you are one lucky dude. it's part of the business. esp if you are betting with those small new books, chances are if you win, you will not get paid..

if we all just played with the wsex's the pinny's and the matchys, the oly's of the world, it will be tough to get stiffed..

i have been stiffed so much offshore, you would not believe how much i have lost.. it would blow you boys minds if i told you the amount. if i was able to have not been stiffed by all those (about 35 books) i have been stiffed by, i'd be living the life today.. big time.. but it's part of the freakin business.

[MonkeyF0cker]

That's why I moved to Vegas.

[durito]

i've never been stiffed

[MonkeyF0cker]

I wish I could get my money from BoS... I even had a friend steal $45k from me.

[flyingillini]

Interesting story.

[betplom]

Heritage would never pull such a stunt.

My $400 is safe with them.

[durito]

I wish I could get my money from BoS... I even had a friend steal $45k from me.

whoops, i did get stiffed by bos. it was peanuts though, forgot all about it

[jjgold]

thanks onner.


billy d, i still won't forget how you helped me get paid back then.. you really put in a lot of effort for me.. thanks.

billy, I got lucky too.. you know what happened.. my bal was at 37k i believe.. mon morning, i asked for my 1st withdrawal on NETeller and the girl sent it to me right away. it was for 9500$.. she fukked up.. she wasn't supposed to do it.. the boss there told me she wasn't supposed to do it cause there was a note there not to do it.. so i got lucky..

then you came in and got me another 10k.. that was big..

now i am left with 18,300$.. so it could have been worse.

billy, if justin or anyone here can get me this 18,300.. i will take only half and i swear, the other half the 9k... i will put it up for free contests here at sbr, and of course give something to justin or whoever can get the money.

Very generous offer from Nicky

This guy is something else

[Scorpion]

sbgglobal rating should be F-

[mathdotcom]

Does bad@math.com know that his favorite book stole from his hero Nicky?

I have received almost $100k in withdrawals from SBG and Royal over the past year and a half. They put bread on my table more than any other book by a longshot.

1] They do not pay me anything to say this.
2] I do not dispute their rogue past. A friend of mine was stiffed almost 20k 4-5 years back.
3] I was very nervous when I once racked up a balance of almost 45k.
4] Given the promotions they were offering a year or two ago, it was well worth the risk

I understand why those previously bitten would never post up there again, but I don't understand the attacks for putting in a good word for a book that has treated me well. If they stiff me, believe me you will hear about it.