Translating Obama Into English

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  • DrStale
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 12-07-08
    • 9692

    #36
    I still think its funny that he made fun of Dbl for "copying off an Obama telemprompter" when the entire thread was copied from someone even more anti-Obama than Dbl is pro-Obama. You must really irritate the smattering of intelligent Repbulicans out there every time you say something. Sort of like how liberals who want to teach Ebonics in schools piss me off.
    Originally posted by Dark Horse
    If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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    • durito
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 07-03-06
      • 13173

      #37
      Originally posted by obama our lord
      That must be why California is going bankrupt in no small part because of the free health care for illegal immigrants. What's 20% of free?
      Exactly. Free care at emergency rooms is bankrupting the country. If people could see regular doctors as part of a public health system long before they had emergency conditions they'd stop going to the ER and racking up $20,000 in unpaid bills. Logic 101. Try it sometime.
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      • obama our lord
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 12-24-08
        • 562

        #38
        Originally posted by Dbldown11
        who works for trial lawyers? probably republicans and democrats. And I completely agree with you. There should be a cap on award amounts and there should be something done about all the lawsuits that do raise our health care costs. I think Obama should come out and mention things like like that more. We as a people do need to change some of our actions as well. However the problems with health care lie far deeper
        Obama will do nothing to offend the trial lawyers as he will do nothing to offend the labor unions

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        Trial lawyers, who say they were demonized during 12 years of Republican congressional rule, are seeking vindication with the Democrats' return to power.


        The plaintiffs' attorneys, who are among the biggest contributors to Democratic candidates, have renamed their chief lobbying group the American Association for Justice and are prepared to flex their rejuvenated political muscle. Their plans include pushing tougher enforcement of workplace-safety rules and enhanced patients' rights.




        They say the shift in power also signals an end to the socalled tort reform backed by President Bush, which was aimed at limiting awards in personal-injury lawsuits against doctors and American corporations.


        "The Republicans had a hell of a chance for the last couple of years and really didn't get that far," a trial attorney at the Coale Cooley firm in Washington, John Coale, said. "And now it's over."
        The trial lawyers association said its political action committee contributed more than $2.5 million to 296 federal candidates for the 2006 elections, and individual members gave more than $20 million to Senate candidates. About 95% of the PAC money went to Democrats, according to the Center for Responsive Politics, a Washington-based research group.


        Businesses are girding for a fight in Congress over workplace safety and such other issues as making it a federal crime for chief executive officers and other company officials to knowingly introduce defective products that kill or severely injure consumers.


        Trial lawyers "are going to be very aggressive, and I do believe they are going to make the attempt to get some payback," the vice president for legal reform policy at the Washington-based U.S. Chamber of Commerce, Matthew Webb, said in an interview.
        Mr. Bush's major victory in limiting lawsuits was 2005 legislation requiring the biggest class-action suits to be filed in federal court rather than state courts, which have been more sympathetic to plaintiffs.


        The Republican-controlled Congress failed to pass proposals to place caps on medical-malpractice awards and to create a $140 billion fund for asbestos-exposure victims.


        The Chamber of Commerce, the nation's largest business lobby, says it hasn't give up on those initiatives. It also is focusing on state legislative efforts to limit liability in lawsuits.


        The day after the November 7 elections, when Democrats won both houses of Congress for the first time since 1992, the chamber released a poll reporting that more than eight out of 10 voters regarded "frivolous lawsuits" as a serious problem and favored lawsuit "reform."


        Even so, the chamber and another business group, the Washington-based American Tort Reform Association, say they aren't optimistic Congress will act.


        Trial lawyers "poured millions of dollars into the campaigns for the folks who are now in power, and because of that they're going to have leverage that they haven't had in the past 20 years," a partner at the Shook, Hardy & Bacon law firm in Washington and general counsel of the tort-reform group, Victor Schwartz, said.


        The chief lobbyist for the triallawyers group in Washington, Linda Lipsen, said in an interview that she is polling her 60,000 members to decide on specific legislative goals. The group is still called the Association of Trial Lawyers of America, with the name change to become official next week.


        "We realized that we needed to have an emphasis on what was under attack, and that would be justice," a former president of the group and attorney at Janet, Jenner & Suggs in Columbia, S.C., Kenneth Suggs, said.


        Ms. Lipsen said trial lawyers would like to see Congress strip the insurance industry of its exemption from antitrust laws, a move that would pave the way for suits against insurers. She also suggested there might be congressional hearings one day on "why there are 98,000 deaths a year" in the medical industry.


        Trial attorneys will "alert the Congress to areas where they can encourage safety," including "cars, airplanes, the environment, clean air and water, medical procedures, hospitals," Ms. Lipsen said. "Our job is to make sure these industries are accountable."
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        • Dbldown11
          SBR MVP
          • 08-17-06
          • 3605

          #39
          Once again you're just cutting and pasting things from what other people wrote....but yet you say I follow Obama blindly?

          If I really had to I could come up with a HUGE list of corporations that donate tons and tons of money to republicans.

          That's another problem we have with our government, and if you are actually for any kind of change in the way the system works you would be with me in saying that WE NEED TO START PUBLICLY FUNDING OUR FEDERAL ELECTIONS. As well as regulate the amount of money that can be spent on an election.

          This will level the playing field (right now only rich people can run for federal elections and that's not good for anyone). It will stop the constant need for year round campaigning even in non-election years. And it will stop the need for PAC's and their donations so OUR legislatures try scratching OUR backs once in a while instead of the companies.

          But DO NOT act like it's just something Democrats do, because if you do that you are just making yourself a hypocrit an liar. Like the republicans that are so outraged over earmarks and spending but actually had a more earmarks in the omnibus bill than the dems relatively speaking
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          • obama our lord
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 12-24-08
            • 562

            #40
            Originally posted by Dbldown11
            Once again you're just cutting and pasting things from what other people wrote....but yet you say I follow Obama blindly?

            I copied the FACTS for you.

            - 95% of the trial lawyers donations went to Democrats

            - The trial lawyers have vowed to work against Republicans.


            This is not a 50-50 matter, and it's a MAJOR reason for the high costs of health care

            Obama is bed with the trial lawyers and will not work against them. In fact, he's said as much (one of the few times he was being truthful).
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            • obama our lord
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 12-24-08
              • 562

              #41
              Originally posted by durito
              Exactly. Free care at emergency rooms is bankrupting the country. If people could see regular doctors as part of a public health system long before they had emergency conditions they'd stop going to the ER and racking up $20,000 in unpaid bills. Logic 101. Try it sometime.
              Do you really think a system can be set up where anybody can walk in for any health care needs and get it, get it speedily and get it from competent (i.e. adequately compensated) health personel?

              If this is set up, health care will certainly have to be rationed, and truly good health care will only be available to the very rich. If you like HBOs, then I guess you love government run health care.
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              • Pokerjoe
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 04-17-09
                • 704

                #42
                Can one of the moderators tell me why this guy is allowed to post this shit on a website that's supposed to be about sportsbetting?

                Can't you set up an idiot's room for threads like this?
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                • obama our lord
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 12-24-08
                  • 562

                  #43
                  Originally posted by Pokerjoe
                  Can one of the moderators tell me why this guy is allowed to post this shit on a website that's supposed to be about sportsbetting?

                  Can't you set up an idiot's room for threads like this?

                  Is that where you will be hanging out?
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                  • DwightShrute
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 01-17-09
                    • 101341

                    #44
                    Originally posted by obama our lord
                    Really, Bond holders had legitimate debts owed to them. This was the interests of private business, not the government. Obama stole the money from them and gave it as payback to the labor Unions. Obama had the CEO of General motors fired. What business is that of the Federal Government. Obama is trying to institute a cap and trade which will only serve to put energy companies under the thumb of the Federal Government and double your your electric bill. None of this has anything to do with fixing anything by Bush. You don't want to see the truth.

                    TARP was isgned by Bush because (a) Bernanske and Paulson told him the economy was in danger of imminent collapse if he didn't. (b)Obama would have signed it anyway. Obama is taking off woth that start and is destroying the very foundation of our economy.

                    They system works just fine for me. But I guess you enjoy long waits for routine treatments like MRIs and paying thousands more in taxes. But then, you probably don't even pay any taxes anyway.

                    Those rankings are bogus.

                    Oh and How do you feel about how the Obama's took care of their own in Chicagoo?



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