When is the last time SBR upgraded a book to "A" when they dont advertise here?

[AgainstAllOdds]

I would be willing to bet a fair amount of money its been a long time since SBR upgraded a book who didnt buy a banner or some kind of other advertising on SBR.

[raydog]

you must think someone deserves an upgrade. who is it?

[onthewhat]

So who do you recommend be bumped to an A that doesn't advertise?

[raydog]

i guess pinnacle has been A rated since day 1. i never see them advertise anything here. then again, their #s and payouts speak for themselves

[onthewhat]

Pinny has it set to not advertise to USA IP addresses. I believe they advertise to foreign IPs.

[betplom]

Right, Pinnacle still advertises to those of us that live in free countries.

I see the Pinnacle ads on SBR.

And I play there.

[AgainstAllOdds]

There have been some grumblings that its very hard to get an A rating from SBR unless you advertise here. Even if you have a great book with no complaints, large bankroll, good cs, ect ect. Now thats not to say that SBR doesnt occasionally give out A ratings to books who dont advertise, but I think there are only a few. Heritage is one book off the top of my head. And then there are books that are not A's that SBR insists on keeping them them A. Betonline is one. Although the SBR's grading system is second to none, it has a very major flaw in the fact that the same people who are grading books are also taking money from them. Theres a major conflict of interest here.

[Stumpage]

Will Hill. They have not advertised here since Day 01, but were upgraded to A (From A- or B+ I believe) some time ago, and have maintained that grade ever since. But you're right AAO, that was quite a while back I believe. Also, from incidents in the past, I don't believe that Will Hill gives a rat's ass what SBR thinks of them (Like many European books it seems) but they continue to reside in the High rent district with regards to ratings here.

[betplom]

Ladbrokes

[pavyracer]

From my experience with the industry noone gives a rat's ass about the SBR ratings. It's like the bad reviews movies with $200 million ticket sales get. You don't need good ratings to be a successful bad book.

[durito]

When was the last time a non euro book of any kind was upgraded to A?

The state of the industry just doesn't support it.

There used to be a few A's that didn't advertise here.

Have you played at Heritage AAO? How can you rate them then?

[mathdotcom]

ratings are way off

some horse shit B/B- books but then some great D books. Ridiculous. Slow to update ratings = no incentive for books to change their ways.

[HedgeHog]

I think a better question is how many SBR sponsors have dropped below C level. Two quickly come to mind.