Dont make or take any bets from anyone on this forum.

[nosniboR11]

Poster A bets $110 to win $100 on Lakers -4.5 with a sponsor book

Poster B bets $110 to win $100 on Magic +4.5 with a sponsor book

Book nets $10 from SBR posters on said bets. SBR receives a small percentage of poster losses. Maybe I should be better informed, though.

dumbass



SBR John if you are going to come on here and say this , You need to make sure its for everyone, That includes you top posters here, JJGOLD, NICKY, TSop, they all have accepted bets and paid out here, so if you want to play favorites , then a lot of posters can and will venture on

[unknown Gambler]

dumbass



That includes you top posters here, JJGOLD, NICKY, TSop, they all have accepted bets and paid out here.

Although im sure SBRJohn already has an idea whos who when it comes to forum posters gambling with each other.

One thing SBR posters can learn from this thread is who are the Rats among us,we found a biggie here.

Becarefull of this poster he wil buckle under questioning, and will tell the school principle who sold him the joint he just got caught smoking.

[MBENZ]

It's a metaphor Casper meaning noone dares to take a bet with me. I'm that good son.

Wanna bet?

[jjgold]

Play with top books whereas you know where they are located and who they are.

It is suicide playing with an unkown offshore or onshore

[pavyracer]

Wanna bet?

Sure. How much action can you take? I'd tell you the game I like and you give me a line to hammer.

[SBR_John]

Sorry john but I think this is somewhat a joke. We are on a gambling forum. Poster to Poster betting will happen. Im sure the guys posting up with "forum bookies" already know the risks. And to say its not about SBR recieveing money is an even bigger joke. The most you are going to do here is chase off alot of good posters and have them go to other forums simply because you dont want them betting with "forum bookies".

As I said before in my humble opinion I do not believe forum bookies have a material effect on forum ad revenue. If I did I would just say it. Make the rule and give that as a reason, seems like a damn legit reason to me.

We work disputes everyday. All kinds of problems pop up when bookie and player hook up, especially when neither the poster nor the poster bookie can pay if they lose. Dont need or want this here.

[jjgold]

Cut it out now

[MBENZ]

Cut it out now

Who you talkin to Willis?

[SBR_John]

dumbass



SBR John if you are going to come on here and say this , You need to make sure its for everyone, That includes you top posters here, JJGOLD, NICKY, TSop, they all have accepted bets and paid out here, so if you want to play favorites , then a lot of posters can and will venture on

I can joke with the best of them but when it comes to good business I dont have a funny to be found. Make book here you get booted. Dont care what your poster name is or how many posts you got. I hate to be a stick in the mud but I dont want to see anyone get scammed right under our noses. Its bad enough keeping an eye on all of the offshore pirates. Cant allow posters making book and most dont have a pot to piss in.

[nosniboR11]

im just making a point, money changes hands here a lot, and nobody wants to lose a comedian like JJGold,

good luck

[Willie Bee]

One thing SBR posters can learn from this thread is who are the Rats among us,we found a biggie here.

Becarefull of this poster he wil buckle under questioning, and will tell the school principle who sold him the joint he just got caught smoking.

Right on, UG.

[Chi_archie]

so what other actions that posters freely do in their real life is SBR gonna regulate and ban people for?

let's ban all the women beaters
alcoholics
drug users
drug sellers
drunk drivers
income tax cheaters


I agree, if anyone uses sbr posting, pm's or chats as a way to book action, than there should be repercussions.... but I live a 4 min walk from the poster Burt Rapp... If he wants to book my action, that's none of SBR's business


If people are dumb enough to bet over their heads or book action over their heads with a posters using their emails/phones so be it.... pretty much everyone has been warned about the risks and dangers... its on them

[englishmike]

WB, It's true. This thread has been beneficial if for no other reason than to see who the jealous, untrustworthy, bitter losers who name and shame, no doubt the same way they've been doing it all their fukkin life.

Shame on them.

[AgainstAllOdds]

so what other actions that posters freely do in their real life is SBR gonna regulate and ban people for?

let's ban all the women beaters
alcoholics
drug users
drug sellers
drunk drivers
income tax cheaters


I agree, if anyone uses sbr posting, pm's or chats as a way to book action, than there should be repercussions.... but I live a 4 min walk from the poster Burt Rapp... If he wants to book my action, that's none of SBR's business


If people are dumb enough to bet over their heads or book action over their heads with a posters using their emails/phones so be it.... pretty much everyone has been warned about the risks and dangers... its on them

Good post.


If nothing is going on through SBR, then how can you really regulate it. It all becomes hearsay if its not done directly on the site. You will be going on a witch hunt which is ridiculous. And with the story tellers on this site, things could spin out of control fast.

[mathdotcom]

Dont see what big deal is. Anyone dumb enough to do it deserves to lose their money. Just because the forum is used as a way to connect the idiots doesnt mean you should feel obliged to get involved. Anyone expecting richie to pay or Deuce to avatar-pay deserves a good stiff.

[unknown Gambler]

The man owns the site, the man doesnt want SBR poster to SBR poster wannabe bookmakers.

He has seen this in the past,and knows the end result.

However if you live 3 blocks away from a fellow poster, and have become friends and exchanged phone numbers, if you guys bet against each other away from the Forum, first off no one should know, 2nd off i DONT THINK this is his beef.

Two new posters recently joined this forum together, Integritkid and Kingrevolver, they are friends ffor years,SBRjohn cannot tell them not to bet with each other cause they are now members here.

He does not want any SBR poster to SBRposterbookie happening on his site.HIS, being the key word there.

[englishmike]

Also, I would imagine there are accesory issues re. providing the platform that allows people to carry out federal offenses. Just a wild stab in the dark.

[SBR Lou]

so what other actions that posters freely do in their real life is SBR gonna regulate and ban people for?

There are rules at any posting forum. I don't know of too many that give away the kinds of cash and provide as many no-deposit required contests as SBR does, either.

let's ban all the women beaters
alcoholics
drug users
drug sellers
drunk drivers
income tax cheaters

I have never been a fan of the "slippery slope argument".

[AgainstAllOdds]

Hey limpdick lou. Archie has a point. There is a big difference between monitoring/regulating what happens on this forum as opposed to what happens outside of it. If something happened through PM's/chat, thats one thing, but for john to say "tell SBR about emails or prior payments" is just crazy talk.

[MBENZ]

Also, I would imagine there are accesory issues re. providing the platform that allows people to carry out federal offenses. Just a wild stab in the dark.

All jokes aside,I think you hit the nail on the head.

[unknown Gambler]

im just making a point, money changes hands here a lot, and nobody wants to lose a comedian like JJGold,

good luck

You dont want to lose a comedian like JJGOLD,yet you post this Rat shit below.

That includes you top posters here, JJGOLD, NICKY, TSop, they all have accepted bets and paid out here,

You dont want to lose him you say.keep talking.

[englishmike]

so what other actions that posters freely do in their real life is SBR gonna regulate and ban people for?

let's ban all the women beaters
alcoholics
drug users
drug sellers
drunk drivers
income tax cheaters

Chi , I like you, you're a good dude but this argument is ridiculous.

I would imagine John doesn't want his site to be seen as a vehicle and a conduit to people placing and accepting bets. Think about it.
If people were sending pm's buying and selling crack I would imagine the result would be the same, but if you want to buy crack from Bert Rapp at his house that would be none of Johns buisness and nor would he want it to be.

What is so hard to understand about all this?

[jjgold]

Dont see what big deal is. Anyone dumb enough to do it deserves to lose their money. Just because the forum is used as a way to connect the idiots doesnt mean you should feel obliged to get involved. Anyone expecting richie to pay or Deuce to avatar-pay deserves a good stiff.

retty good


Pretty good point

[HedgeHog]

It's buyer (bettor) beware. If you bet with someone on a forum, you deserve to get burned--just for plain stupidity sake.

SBR has no jurisdiction on members betting with one another unless they use the forum and or PMs to solicit such action. Then and only then does SBR need to take action, especially given possible legal ramifications.

Lastly, it's laughable to think that SBR is worried about their bottom line being affected by forum bookies. Some high school poster losing his lunch money to some deadbeat is the least of their worries. Just my opinion.

[englishmike]

It's buyer (bettor) beware. If you bet with someone on a forum, you deserve to get burned--just for plain stupidity sake.

SBR has no jurisdiction on members betting with one another unless they use the forum and or PMs to solicit such action. Then and only then does SBR need to take action, especially given possible legal ramifications.

Lastly, it's laughable to think that SBR is worried about their bottom line being affected by forum bookies. Some high school poster losing his lunch money to some deadbeat is the least of their worries. Just my opinion.

At last.

[nosniboR11]

[quote=unknown Gambler;1951999]You dont want to lose a comedian like JJGOLD,yet you post this Rat shit below.




Oh NICKY YOU DUMB ASS WILL NEVER LEARN, GOOD LUCK WITH THAT YOU CANADIAN ****

[Chi_archie]

let me reiterate.... I'm all for banning someone if they are using posts, pms or chat as a way to book action..... is anyone doing that?

I'm pretty sure months and months ago, lots of people lost the privledge of using chat and pms.... maybe some were given short term suspensions....

my point, is that it doesn't seem to me that anyone is using SBR as the way to book their action and it DOES seem like John is advocating for the banishment of posters, doing somthing away from the site, without the use of this site.

[englishmike]

let me reiterate.... I'm all for banning someone if they are using posts, pms or chat as a way to book action..... is anyone doing that?

I don't think he would have posted if it wasn't going on, I also think he needs to make that post for legal purposes even if it's not going on.


[/quote]my point, is that it doesn't seem to me that anyone is using SBR as the way to book their action and it DOES seem like John is advocating for the banishment of posters, doing somthing away from the site, without the use of this site.[/quote]

I think he's saying if you do it on his site you're banned for life and if you decide to do it away from the site, in his opinion, you'll get burned.

[pavyracer]

let me reiterate.... I'm all for banning someone if they are using posts, pms or chat as a way to book action..... is anyone doing that?

I'm pretty sure months and months ago, lots of people lost the privledge of using chat and pms.... maybe some were given short term suspensions....

my point, is that it doesn't seem to me that anyone is using SBR as the way to book their action and it DOES seem like John is advocating for the banishment of posters, doing somthing away from the site, without the use of this site.

Why would SBR John want people booking action away from the site hanging around here? Their ultimate purpose of being here would be to lure more fish to their booking sites. Why would SBR be their vehicle to steal posters away from the site and advance their business?

[JBC77]

Good question.

Why wasn't it addressed last year? Been going on for some time now.

[raiders72002]

Good post by John but it should be seen as a buyer beware post instead of a deterrent to the forum bookies.

Can't stop people from wanting credit. It goes both ways. The losers aren't going to pay and the forum books aren't going to pay any substantial amounts.

[Willie Bee]

Why wasn't it addressed last year? Been going on for some time now.

How do you know it wasn't addressed, or that it's not still being addressed?

[pavyracer]

How do you know it wasn't addressed, or that it's not still being addressed?

Willie,

If you don't publish a list as the owner of this site to deter this practice it will leave room for speculation. JBC77 or me or anyone not knowing you acted is purely guessing on SBR's actions.

Make an "offender list" ala creditwagering stiff list and publish it on PT as a permanent sticky.

[blittydeuce]

Willie,

If you don't publish a list as the owner of this site to deter this practice it will leave room for speculation. JBC77 or me or anyone not knowing you acted is purely guessing on SBR's actions.

Make an "offender list" ala creditwagering stiff list and publish it on PT as a permanent sticky.

[Willie Bee]

Speculate all you want, pavy. If you want to form an opinion without having all of the facts, that's your business. How we go about trying to keep posters from booking bets is ours.