Laying horses - Starting from Feb-12-2018

[jjgold]

OMG it won LOL and it was as low as 11-1 averaged at 16/1

https://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/plumpton/16:50/winner

991 Euro down tubes! Sorry for your loss but laying 80-1 you had that coming Sir.... OMG!!!

thats why it does not work

[littlekona]

Is there decent volume on US races on fairlay? I thought I remember checking once and it looked kind of thin.

The market maker on Fairlay for USA is horrible...its very limited/unpredictable and he closes 10 minutes to post times...The Market Maker for UK races is very good and the lines are about same or shade less then 9wickets and Matchbook but zero commissions so its about even.....9wickets grades much faster as Fairlay UK races take about 20mins to grade...I use both 9wickets and Fairlay....Fairlay is much better for sports they have full markets while 9wickets is limited in many sports to only moneylines

[littlekona]

Someone knew that horse was going to run a big race, it was being backed like defeat not possible

wow talk about the gamble of day that horse was bet down and down and down...someone knew 4 sure...I would not be surprised to see a investigation that is incredible the late money on him!

[Underdog5229]

is this guy still alive or did he end it?

[Foxx]

The market maker on Fairlay for USA is horrible...its very limited/unpredictable and he closes 10 minutes to post times...The Market Maker for UK races is very good and the lines are about same or shade less then 9wickets and Matchbook but zero commissions so its about even.....9wickets grades much faster as Fairlay UK races take about 20mins to grade...I use both 9wickets and Fairlay....Fairlay is much better for sports they have full markets while 9wickets is limited in many sports to only moneylines

Thanks. What's the deal with zero commission? Is that a permanent thing or just promotional?

[littlekona]

Wow I just watched the replay...He battled the whole race near front looked like he was beaten 3 or 4 times by different rivals in the last 4 furlongs even at last fence looked beat but once over it he pulled away...SBR members ALERT ! we have a bridge jumper please be advised OMG!!!

[littlekona]

Thanks. What's the deal with zero commission? Is that a permanent thing or just promotional?

right now it is Zero but they do have .5 mbtc fee on withdrawals....and they do 2% comm on non horse/sports bets like "news" bitcoin ect.....I have been using them for over a year never a issue but a slow grade here and there...Withdrawals are always instant they are easily the #2 BTC book right behind Nitrogen though there odds are way better at Fairlay

[slayer14]

Race 6 - 4:50pm
THE SUPPORT THE INJURED JOCKEYS FUND CONDITIONAL JOCKEYS' HANDICAP HURDLE RACE (CLASS 5)

An enquiry was held to consider the placings in this race after interference on the run to the line when the winner, CASSIVELLAUNUS (IRE), ridden by William Clarke, interfered with BE DARING (FR), placed second, ridden by Harry Reed. Being a 7lb claimer, Clarke was offered to be accompanied in the enquiry but declined. The Stewards considered that the interference had not improved CASSIVELLAUNUS (IRE)’s placing as although taken notably off its intended line, the runner up lost little to no momentum and was beaten by ¾ length with the winner comfortably going away from BE DARING (FR). Clarke was suspended for 3 days for careless riding as he had allowed his mount to drift left-handed without correction.


Well the jockey on the winner got done for careless riding but still was given the race by stewards.

[Underdog5229]

where can i see a replay fellas?

[littlekona]

where can i see a replay fellas?

I have it on TVG or Xpressbet in states....

[slayer14]

At the races site you can also watch some USA horse racing replays from various race tracks.

http://www.attheraces.com/replays

[jjgold]

Kona how do you do with horses by end of year?

Be honest hear

[littlekona]

Race 6 - 4:50pm
THE SUPPORT THE INJURED JOCKEYS FUND CONDITIONAL JOCKEYS' HANDICAP HURDLE RACE (CLASS 5)

An enquiry was held to consider the placings in this race after interference on the run to the line when the winner, CASSIVELLAUNUS (IRE), ridden by William Clarke, interfered with BE DARING (FR), placed second, ridden by Harry Reed. Being a 7lb claimer, Clarke was offered to be accompanied in the enquiry but declined. The Stewards considered that the interference had not improved CASSIVELLAUNUS (IRE)’s placing as although taken notably off its intended line, the runner up lost little to no momentum and was beaten by ¾ length with the winner comfortably going away from BE DARING (FR). Clarke was suspended for 3 days for careless riding as he had allowed his mount to drift left-handed without correction.


Well the jockey on the winner got done for careless riding but still was given the race by stewards.

I heard the announcer say there was some interference....I had no idea inquiry...OMG That is just incredible way to lose....UK races they rarely DQ a horse...in the states different story if you drift out into anothers lane and it is that close of a finish you are coming down...WOW thanks for posting this that is just NUTS!

[littlekona]

Kona how do you do with horses by end of year?

Be honest hear

on my ADW accounts Xpressbet and TVG last year i was down over 40K
On Heritage not sure but probably down good 2K
On Looselines not sure but loser maybe 1K
On Fairlay I show profit of 440mBTC for horses I lay most of time
On 9Wickets I have profit of 450 Euro lay horses

Lifetime I have lost easy 500K on wagering horses most when I was younger at track and ADW accts in states
Since I have been laying more now using Fairlay and 9wickets I have been winning a tad...Im better picking losers

I'm 100% honest....I wish I never started gambling

Poker though I have been very profitable live and online constantly and sports on and off over years...Just all my winning there feed my love of horses which has been my worst losses...I just love horse racing

[jjgold]

unreal..great write up man

Do you every have sold years horses?

[littlekona]

unreal..great write up man

Do you every have sold years horses?

yea I had some decent years but got cleaned up by the tax man on IRS tickets.. i have hit some nice pick 4's,5's 6's over the years...that's what keeps ya going right? ah the dream of hitting that huge pick 56 ticket...Gamblers mentality...I remember like it was yesterday years back I hit a 50 cent pick 5 at the old Calder race track for 21K...that's the rush that keeps ya going

[littlekona]

Plus you got ripped off on odds there to he is 33-50/1 on every site on UK odds right this second

My God...I just watched again on my big screen at home now...that race was just insane knowing the amount that was layed at 85-1 just insane watching...race of the year!

[arie1985]

It was only 16/1 starting price he lay it at 85/1

I learned my lessons from this:

1) Never lay 20 minutes before the race, only 3-5 minutes before the race or closer to the race (the real underdog in this race was another horse, not this one, and I had to wait for it).

2) For 9Wickets I need a bigger bankroll because the minimum bet there is 10 EUR.

3) Betting on the underdog in this race would have yielded profit, it was my mistake to go for this one 20 minutes before the race.

I don't give up guys, it was working for me in the past but I want to document it now.

[arie1985]

is this guy still alive or did he end it?

I'm here.

[arie1985]

My God...I just watched again on my big screen at home now...that race was just insane knowing the amount that was layed at 85-1 just insane watching...race of the year!

https://www.sportinglife.com/racing/results/2018-02-12/plumpton/463056/support-the-injured-jockeys-fund-conditional-jockeys'-handicap-hurdle

The underdog to bet here was Kalarika with odds of 26.00, I remember 3-4 minutes before the race the odds went up on this one and low on the winning horse.

You can bet 20 minutes or hours before a race where you got those very long races with only 3 horses like yesterday, but other than that - this was a race where the underdog to lay was Kalarika, I guess I was too cocky and learned my lesson here.

[arie1985]

I don't have balance yet but if I could I would lay something like this:



It's Harness racing, it'ssolid for laying, the form (last results) of this one were - 47s80s

It looks pretty solid to lay this one, 61.00 odds at Sportsbet.com.au

[arie1985]

He is 81.00 in Sportsbet.com.au - 240 in 9Wickets, easy 15 EUR here, I mean these are the types of bets to take if you want to win it long term.

But you need a bankroll of like minimum 4k EUR if you want to make something out of it, I have to consider if that's worth it or not.

[arie1985]

I have to beat this record by the end of February, I think it's very realistic. Guys, I'm not giving up so soon.

[arie1985]

Next bet:

[arie1985]

Next bet:

This one had 61.00 in Sportsbet.com.au but when the race started it was 31.00
I relied on the high 81.00 5 minutes before the race, it dropped to 71.00 and 61.00 around 2 minutes before the race.

So looks like I have to wait for the very last minute in order to be sure if it's worth it or not - aka discipline.

Also I did top up my account with around 1,600 EUR, I think for extremely "good" bets I'd need more but let's see how it goes for now

Lastly, this 160 odds could have been taken for 80 in the platform, anyway the horse didn't win.

[arie1985]

Another one, race already started but I placed it quite before it did.

[arie1985]

Another one:



Good luck!

[arie1985]

And another one:

[arie1985]

The last race in Swan Hill is NO BET for me for sure and I will explain why:



All the odds in this race are under 20.00 about 10 minutes prior to the race, only 5 horses will run...
This is actually an excellent opportunity to lay the favorite here, not the underdog, but I'm not into it.

[arie1985]

Next one:

[arie1985]

Race 8 in Junee is no bet for me because of low odds.
Race 9 has Billy Cruz, 9 years old horse, with current odds of 61.00 @ SportsBet.com.au - I will be looking to probably go against this one, or against Nunya, a 6 yr old one who also seems to be in a terrible shape, but the race starts in 50 minutes approx.

Overall, Profit & Loss for Feb 2018 as of now:

[arie1985]

Here's the one against BC

[arie1985]

I've made another deposit, balance is now 4,000 EUR.
This is so I could have enough bank roll to lay bets @ 200-300 if necessary as well and/or also to gain more from each race because 10 EUR is nice but my goal is 20-30 EUR from each race, to make it worthwhile.

[arie1985]

Race 3 in South Africa has lots of underdogs, some are offered 101.00 in Bet365. The question is if it's possible to close a deal on them in 9Wickets for a reasonable price.

[Foxx]

Good luck today. Maybe I'll recommend a lay horse or 2 from Southwell later.