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  • thechaoz
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    • 10-23-09
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    #141
    Originally posted by rkelly110
    Trump must think like his daughter and or vise versa thinking cutting taxes means more money to spend at will.

    Trump signing the tax plan, then right after spending 400m on missiles. Now wants to do infrastructure which will be
    a major cost. Not to mention the wall, while his buddies in congress will be gutting the programs that help education,
    seniors and the poor, but hey, the working man will get $7.50 a week extra in his pocket.

    https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/u...-business.html
    The jerkoff cut a 13B rail project from NY to NJ. I thought we were rebuilding America? That would of been thousands of good paying jobs
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    • rkelly110
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      #142
      Originally posted by thechaoz
      83 percent of the the tax cuts go to the top one percent.

      This is math, not facts, not debatable. I feel ill need to say that on advance to some of you on here.

      Tell me how giving millionaires more money in their checking accounts creates jobs, educates people and moves more industry and middle class jobs to our cities?

      Right. It doesn't
      Ah, the old tried and true trickle down theory with austerity. Man, I miss that. Those who have tried it had such great success.
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      • rkelly110
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        #143
        Originally posted by thechaoz
        The jerkoff cut a 13B rail project from NY to NJ. I thought we were rebuilding America? That would of been thousands of good paying jobs
        Didn't hear that.
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        • chico2663
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          #144
          roy makes fun of every ones smarts but thinks a guy who spent billions more than or then what was taking in was great for america. This dip shit doesn't understand math. He also doesn't know what liberal means but since the uninformed use it a lot. Thinks it is cool to use.
          Last edited by chico2663; 01-01-18, 03:17 PM.
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          • DwightShrute
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            #145
            I can only imagine how you three brilliant minds would do as president.
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            • chico2663
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              #146
              strasse burg ruins ? i have better pic
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              • chico2663
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                #147
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                • chico2663
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                  #148
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                  • chico2663
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                    #149
                    ^^^^^^
                    or was it the berlin ruins
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                    • RoyBacon
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                      #150
                      Originally posted by khicks26
                      You mean like giving 6 trillion dollars to people that don't need it?

                      Dude your starting to talk out your ass.


                      Just wait & see what's in the infrastructure bill.

                      Well your boy Obama said we do. Anyone with even a partial brain knows the 1.5% growth rate Obama produced will not raise working folks wages.

                      So your starting premise is completely false. Obama was by far the dumbest president when it came to business. Even as dumb as he was on business he and many other liberals agreed. The amount grows everytime you post. Which, if you are going to post false crap the amount might as well be false too.

                      Infrastructure won't happen. The only way it could happen this year is with democratic support and they would rather wait for the midterms. Could be a compromise in '19. We'll see.
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                      • RoyBacon
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                        #151
                        Originally posted by chico2663
                        roy makes fun of every ones smarts but thinks a guy who spent billions more than or then what was taking in was great for america. This dip shit doesn't understand math. He also doesn't know what liberal means but since the uninformed use it a lot. Thinks it is cool to use.
                        chico name one poster that is more far left than you. I don't think there is. If I'm using the liberal term in error it is only because you are much further left and you should be described as a socialist.

                        On the math, as I said before, if you want me to break down the return Trump made on his after tax inheritance of $50m turned into $5 billion, I will. I knowww it's hard to accept, but Trump is certainly one of the business greats in American history.
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                        • thechaoz
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                          • 10-23-09
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                          #152
                          Originally posted by rkelly110
                          Didn't hear that.
                          Faux news, so everyone "believes it"

                          Google 13b train trump and you'll see hundreds of articles

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                          • gauchojake
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                            #153
                            If you believe that eliminating the SALT deduction is a good thing because you know fukk CA, then you are a socialist by definition. FACT.
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                            • RoyBacon
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                              #154
                              “Our current corporate tax system is outdated, unfair, and inefficient.” ”It provides tax breaks for moving jobs and profits overseas and hits companies that choose to stay in America with one of the highest tax rates in the world.
                              “It is unnecessarily complicated and forces America’s small businesses to spend countless hours and dollars filing their taxes. It’s not right, and it needs to change.”

                              i wonder who said that?(besides RoyBacon)
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                              • RudyRuetigger
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                                #155
                                well, the liberals seem to support it

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                                • d2bets
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                                  #156
                                  Originally posted by gauchojake
                                  If you believe that eliminating the SALT deduction is a good thing because you know fukk CA, then you are a socialist by definition. FACT.
                                  Const challenge won't work, but as a workaround I think state/county can offer a credit against tax due for charitable contributions made to state/county. Then taxpayer can choose to do that and itemize as a charitable contribution. There are some limits on that, but for most it will be OK.
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                                  • khicks26
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                                    #157
                                    Originally posted by RoyBacon
                                    Well your boy Obama said we do. Anyone with even a partial brain knows the 1.5% growth rate Obama produced will not raise working folks wages.

                                    So your starting premise is completely false. Obama was by far the dumbest president when it came to business. Even as dumb as he was on business he and many other liberals agreed. The amount grows everytime you post. Which, if you are going to post false crap the amount might as well be false too.

                                    Infrastructure won't happen. The only way it could happen this year is with democratic support and they would rather wait for the midterms. Could be a compromise in '19. We'll see.
                                    OH, so your saying Trump is the same as Obama. I agree.

                                    Its not like both parties have not been pushing Privatization, corporatization, & Neoliberal polices. How am I posting false crap.

                                    There is a very good chance that new infrastructure will be privatized. Every time you privatize something the cost goes up.

                                    Trump has already said he will look to the private sector on infrastructure. I'm pretty sure you could get some Dems to go along with it.
                                    Last edited by khicks26; 01-01-18, 10:54 PM.
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                                    • chico2663
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                                      #158
                                      Originally posted by RoyBacon
                                      chico name one poster that is more far left than you. I don't think there is. If I'm using the liberal term in error it is only because you are much further left and you should be described as a socialist.

                                      On the math, as I said before, if you want me to break down the return Trump made on his after tax inheritance of $50m turned into $5 billion, I will. I knowww it's hard to accept, but Trump is certainly one of the business greats in American history.
                                      Can you prove he is worth 5 billion? If not stfu
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                                      • chico2663
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                                        #159
                                        Originally posted by gauchojake
                                        If you believe that eliminating the SALT deduction is a good thing because you know fukk CA, then you are a socialist by definition. FACT.
                                        what is funny is some dipshit believes that california is in financial trouble. Thet are too stupid that califas gives more to the govt than any other state.Yes at one time california was in trouble. But that was when arnold was trying trickle down economics
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                                        • chico2663
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                                          #160
                                          Originally posted by d2bets
                                          Const challenge won't work, but as a workaround I think state/county can offer a credit against tax due for charitable contributions made to state/county. Then taxpayer can choose to do that and itemize as a charitable contribution. There are some limits on that, but for most it will be OK.
                                          pretty sure charitable giving is gone.
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                                          • chico2663
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                                            #161
                                            Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                            well, the liberals seem to support it

                                            welcome back
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                                            • RudyRuetigger
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                                              #162
                                              Originally posted by chico2663
                                              welcome back
                                              you been hiding in this thread for 3 weeks?
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                                              • chico2663
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                                                #163
                                                Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                                you been hiding in this thread for 3 weeks?
                                                no, been trying to walk 4 miles a day and after losing at the poker tables
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                                                • RoyBacon
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                                                  #164
                                                  Originally posted by RoyBacon
                                                  “Our current corporate tax system is outdated, unfair, and inefficient.” ”It provides tax breaks for moving jobs and profits overseas and hits companies that choose to stay in America with one of the highest tax rates in the world.
                                                  “It is unnecessarily complicated and forces America’s small businesses to spend countless hours and dollars filing their taxes. It’s not right, and it needs to change.”

                                                  i wonder who said that?(besides RoyBacon)
                                                  chico, gante hicks, kelly, d2,
                                                  Whae obama said the above and proposed a 25% reduction in corp tax were you guys calling that a tax for the rich , 83% bla blah blah.

                                                  What that proves is you are far past partisan hypocrites. Worse. You are minions of the media and Nancy Pelosi. She told you this was a tax for the rich and by golly so did Rachel Madcow so IT IS, IT S (use a robotic voice on "IT IS")

                                                  You guys on the left are simply being played liked throw away pawns. Not intellectual progressiveness, but played.
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                                                  • RoyBacon
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                                                    #165
                                                    Originally posted by chico2663
                                                    Can you prove he is worth 5 billion? If not stfu
                                                    He says $10 billion, His 80 page finanicial disclosure estimated $7 billion. The lowest was bloomberg and forbes at $3.7 billion. Even if your psychosis is raging and you use $2 billion he is still one of the great American business men in history. The "billionaire" list is pretty short. Sometimes chico you have to admit the world is round. "Wanting" the earth to be flat does not make it so.
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                                                    • rkelly110
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                                                      #166
                                                      Originally posted by thechaoz
                                                      Faux news, so everyone "believes it"

                                                      Google 13b train trump and you'll see hundreds of articles

                                                      https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxne...nnel-plan.html
                                                      Thanks. That explains a lot. Obama's idea.

                                                      Poor butt hurt snowflake Trump lost his bet that he welched on with the birth certificate fiasco and in true Trump
                                                      fashion, retaliates like a 10 yo girl. Pretty much since day one of his presidency. Whaa! Obama made an ass out
                                                      of me that I initiated!
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                                                      • rkelly110
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                                                        #167
                                                        Originally posted by RoyBacon
                                                        chico, gante hicks, kelly, d2,
                                                        Whae obama said the above and proposed a 25% reduction in corp tax were you guys calling that a tax for the rich , 83% bla blah blah.

                                                        What that proves is you are far past partisan hypocrites. Worse. You are minions of the media and Nancy Pelosi. She told you this was a tax for the rich and by golly so did Rachel Madcow so IT IS, IT S (use a robotic voice on "IT IS")

                                                        You guys on the left are simply being played liked throw away pawns. Not intellectual progressiveness, but played.
                                                        Since you are stating this, we have seen no proof from you Obama wanted to cut the corporate rate.

                                                        Even if he did, your boys would've shot it down anyway, so who's being dishonest here?
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                                                        • Jayvegas420
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                                                          #168
                                                          Roy & Dwight represent about 49% of your country.
                                                          Since last year, they have become accustomed to making up their own facts. Not only do they convince themselves that these bulshit talking points are true, they take to the internet and social media to display their ignorance.
                                                          Since last November, they have become truly emboldened.
                                                          The sad part is they don't know how ignorant they are because at some point.... they actually convinced themselves that their interests align with Trump and the other billionaires.
                                                          The Electoral College, while in this particular case might have changed election results, does not seem to be the big problem. Even if the Electoral College would have awarded the presidency to Clinton, you still have close to half of an entire country full of idiots.
                                                          With an approval rating of 32%, at least 16% of those idiots are smartening up!
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                                                          • DwightShrute
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                                                            #169
                                                            Originally posted by Jayvegas420
                                                            Roy & Dwight represent about 49% of your country.
                                                            Since last year, they have become accustomed to making up their own facts. Not only do they convince themselves that these bulshit talking points are true, they take to the internet and social media to display their ignorance.
                                                            Since last November, they have become truly emboldened.
                                                            The sad part is they don't know how ignorant they are because at some point.... they actually convinced themselves that their interests align with Trump and the other billionaires.
                                                            The Electoral College, while in this particular case might have changed election results, does not seem to be the big problem. Even if the Electoral College would have awarded the presidency to Clinton, you still have close to half of an entire country full of idiots.
                                                            With an approval rating of 32%, at least 16% of those idiots are smartening up!
                                                            Despite the fake Russia thing, MSM making up shit throughout his first year and desperate fake news junkies like you ....


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                                                            • khicks26
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                                                              #170
                                                              Originally posted by RoyBacon
                                                              chico, gante hicks, kelly, d2,
                                                              Whae obama said the above and proposed a 25% reduction in corp tax were you guys calling that a tax for the rich , 83% bla blah blah.

                                                              What that proves is you are far past partisan hypocrites. Worse. You are minions of the media and Nancy Pelosi. She told you this was a tax for the rich and by golly so did Rachel Madcow so IT IS, IT S (use a robotic voice on "IT IS")

                                                              You guys on the left are simply being played liked throw away pawns. Not intellectual progressiveness, but played.
                                                              Not an intellectual or a Obama, Pelosi Maddow fan. Yes I would call it a tax cut for the rich.


                                                              You know who else besides you was a fan of Reagan. Obama.
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                                                              • khicks26
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                                                                #171
                                                                Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                                                Despite the fake Russia thing, MSM making up shit throughout his first year and desperate fake news junkies like you ....


                                                                I thought you said polls were fake news?
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                                                                • rkelly110
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                                                                  #172
                                                                  Originally posted by khicks26
                                                                  I thought you said polls were fake news?
                                                                  Only when it works in their favor.

                                                                  Remember when Trump was down in the polls while campaigning the poll numbers were fake, but when they were in his
                                                                  favor, he wouldn't STFU about them?
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                                                                  • khicks26
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                                                                    #173
                                                                    Originally posted by rkelly110
                                                                    Only when it works in their favor.

                                                                    Remember when Trump was down in the polls while campaigning the poll numbers were fake, but when they were in his
                                                                    favor, he wouldn't STFU about them?
                                                                    YES, typical Trump supporter. They want it both ways. Just like they want his dick both ways.
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                                                                    • RoyBacon
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                                                                      #174
                                                                      Originally posted by rkelly110
                                                                      Since you are stating this, we have seen no proof from you Obama wanted to cut the corporate rate.

                                                                      Even if he did, your boys would've shot it down anyway, so who's being dishonest here?
                                                                      LOLL,that quote was from Obama. He wanted to cut corp taxes from 35% to 25%. He proposed that in 2012.

                                                                      I'll bet you all of your points(and pay for you to go Pro), that not one of you libs opposed Obama on his corp tax cut proposal. I'll post it again.

                                                                      “Our current corporate tax system is outdated, unfair, and inefficient.” ”It provides tax breaks for moving jobs and profits overseas and hits companies that choose to stay in America with one of the highest tax rates in the world.
                                                                      “It is unnecessarily complicated and forces America’s small businesses to spend countless hours and dollars filing their taxes. It’s not right, and it needs to change.”
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                                                                      • RoyBacon
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                                                                        #175
                                                                        Originally posted by Jayvegas420
                                                                        Roy & Dwight represent about 49% of your country.
                                                                        Since last year, they have become accustomed to making up their own facts. Not only do they convince themselves that these bulshit talking points are true, they take to the internet and social media to display their ignorance.
                                                                        Since last November, they have become truly emboldened.
                                                                        The sad part is they don't know how ignorant they are because at some point.... they actually convinced themselves that their interests align with Trump and the other billionaires.
                                                                        The Electoral College, while in this particular case might have changed election results, does not seem to be the big problem. Even if the Electoral College would have awarded the presidency to Clinton, you still have close to half of an entire country full of idiots.
                                                                        With an approval rating of 32%, at least 16% of those idiots are smartening up!
                                                                        I'm glad you feel that way. It's perhaps comforting.

                                                                        I would point out that Dems had their chance and produced nothing. Absolutely zero. Because of that fact they were run out of office starting in 2010. Was the country smart to elect them and suddenly became dumb? I assume that must be your poorly thought out theory.

                                                                        So the dumb Americans, who were smart in 2008 but suddenly became dumb, found a party and a man who had a message to grow the economy and wages. Here we are. Dems lost power not because of your theory that voters were smart in 2008 and dumb in 2010 but because still to this day Dems have no idea how to grow the economy.
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