Could someone kindly put up the Republicans blowing Trump about his tax scheme.

[khicks26]

[bigbubbafade]

Deregulation & Tax Cuts for the rich has always ended in a Depression or a Recession. Yet here we are again.

I would like to ask a direct yes or no question based on this statement....

Do you believe in socialism?

[khicks26]

I would like to ask a direct yes or no question based on this statement....

Do you believe in socialism?

Why Yes or No?

[bigbubbafade]

Why Yes or No?

Fine answer how you want... should America be a socialist Union? Would that make a better America?

[khicks26]

I would like to ask a direct yes or no question based on this statement....

Do you believe in socialism?

I would like to ask you a question. Did the New Deal save capitalism?

[khicks26]

Fine answer how you want... should America be a socialist Union? Would that make a better America?

Do or will you collect SS, have you ever collect unemployment, did you get mail today? All forms of socialism.

[khicks26]

Have you ever need a cop or the fire department? Forms of socialism.

[bigbubbafade]

Just like the other day, as true liberal form you completely avoid the question.

[khicks26]

Fine answer how you want... should America be a socialist Union? Would that make a better America?

Its not a Yes or No question. I like capitalism, just not the Crony Capitalism we have today.

[khicks26]

Just like the other day, as true liberal form you completely avoid the question.

Now please answer my question.

Did the New Deal save capitalism?

[bigbubbafade]

Do or will you collect SS, have you ever collect unemployment, did you get mail today? All forms of socialism.

But at least I will answer yours...

Doubtful. If I did collect it's what I paid in already so not socialism.
No. Wouldn't be socialism anyway. Taxes on the employer.
Yes. Not socialism. Someone paid for a product to be delivered to me per free market. They had the choice to send or not to send the letter.

[khicks26]

Do you have kids in or have you ever attended a public school? Yes socialism

[khicks26]

But at least I will answer yours...

Doubtful. If I did collect it's what I paid in already so not socialism.
No. Wouldn't be socialism anyway. Taxes on the employer.
Yes. Not socialism. Someone paid for a product to be delivered to me per free market. They had the choice to send or not to send the letter.

Now your deflecting, not answering & wrong on all counts.

[khicks26]

But anyway. I think you need a mix of both socialism & capitalism. I don't believe in hand outs for people that don't need them. But I don't want to see people dying in the street either.

Your question is not as simple as Yes or No.

[bigbubbafade]

Now your deflecting, not answering & wrong on all counts.

You couldn't answer a simple question for me phrased 3 different ways for your liking, but I'm deflecting? And I answered 3 of your nonsense wanna be gotcha questions. To be clear about the 'doubtful', I have no idea whether SS will still be around, the liberal media for years has told me it won't be by the time I retire so I guess I have to believe them.

[khicks26]

Also there is no such thing as a free market, nor has there been one in the history of the world.


OH Yeah remember in 08 when the tax payer bailed out the banks. That was socialism for the rich.


Have a good night.

[khicks26]

You couldn't answer a simple question for me phrased 3 different ways for your liking, but I'm deflecting? And I answered 3 of your nonsense wanna be gotcha questions. To be clear about the 'doubtful', I have no idea whether SS will still be around, the liberal media for years has told me it won't be by the time I retire so I guess I have to believe them.

Well don't believe them. Its a lie to steal your money. But you will have to fight for it.

I answered your question in post 114, & 119.

[khicks26]

To answer my question. Did the New Deal save capitalism?


Yes it did & it was written by Unions & you guessed it socialist.

[bigbubbafade]

Also there is no such thing as a free market, nor has there been one in the history of the world.


OH Yeah remember in 08 when the tax payer bailed out the banks. That was socialism for the rich.


Have a good night.

You're completely lost in Rachel Maddow's and Anderson Vanderbilt's twisted world.

And yes I remember 08, and if you go back to the reason the banks were originally issuing loans to people that couldn't afford them you have to go back to BJ Clinton. He and the dems wanted everyone to have the American dream (house) and it wasn't fair to those who couldn't have the it. So after the democrat santa claus handed people loans they didn't deserve for over a decade, 08 happened.

History and facts are a mother fuker.

[khicks26]

You're completely lost in Rachel Maddow's and Anderson Vanderbilt's twisted world.

And yes I remember 08, and if you go back to the reason the banks were originally issuing loans to people that couldn't afford them you have to go back to BJ Clinton. He and the dems wanted everyone to have the American dream (house) and it wasn't fair to those who couldn't have the it. So after the democrat santa claus handed people loans they didn't deserve for over a decade, 08 happened.

History and facts are a mother fuker.

I dislike Maddow & I don't know who the other guy is.

In a post on the other page I called Bill Clinton the worse president in US history. But he did have a little help from Reagan & Bush 2 on the 08 crash. Giving people loans who can't pay them back is not a Dem or Rep thing. Its about profit.

Yes, History & facts can be a SOB. You should take the time to learn some.

[bigbubbafade]

To answer my question. Did the New Deal save capitalism?


Yes it did & it was written by Unions & you guessed it socialist.

Never heard that it saved capitalism and not gonna argue about the great depression. But I know it was a shit time, one that nobody in our era can comprehend mentally, and I know things were done to get us out of the hole.

But golly those democrat Kennedy's, Vanderbilt's, and Rockefeller's sure came out smellin like roses.

[khicks26]

Never heard that it saved capitalism and not gonna argue about the great depression. But I know it was a shit time, one that nobody in our era can comprehend mentally, and I know things were done to get us out of the hole.

But golly those democrat Kennedy's, Vanderbilt's, and Rockefeller's sure came out smellin like roses.

The rich don't give a fuk about a depression. Or the people that have a hard time.

This tax cut that just passed. Very well may put us into another Great Depression or something close to it. All the signs from history are there. I also hope I'm wrong as fuk.

[khicks26]

Be well my friend & change your avtar.

It makes you look like a liberal. LOL

[Thor4140]

Here ya go Thor if you can stomach it for 1/2 an hour. Gotta check out the uncle Tom.

I think this is it but i saw a condense version. I think that turtle fuk Mitch Mcconnel went to blow Trump but Pence pushed him out of the way to let Ryan finish up with Hatch playing with his nuts.

[maggiethebestdog]

It’s not just poor people. It’s middle class people

Poor and middle class SPEND most of their income and pay more of their total income in taxes than it seems. This is why there has never been a “consumption tax”.

Plus social security and Medicare are in trouble, and they are cutting taxes. Think about it.

Do an online retirement analysis for yourself, look at the results with your social security retirement benefit included, and then not included.
And then come back and talk to me.

The only thing I ever commented on was the income tax. I am merely pointing out that any income tax cut will be inaccurately viewed as for the rich when the real reason it benefits the top earners is because they pay all the income taxes in this country. I'm sorry if those facts upset you. I don't like rich people anymore than anyone else here, I just know that you can't get a tax income break if you don't pay income taxes to begin with. The bottom 50% of earners pay less than 4% of the income tax in our country. I am one of those people.

[Thor4140]

this is why the idiots on this site vote for these cunning assholes. They don’t know shit about this tax bill just like the assholes who passed it. This was nothing but paying back their donors at the expense of the American workers because they were threaten to give them that money back. Pathetic. These asshole scumbag Republicans are smiling and chest pounding because their donors were getting fed up and now the cash cow is back in place. That is all they cared about. Getting more money to run more scams.

[RoyBacon]

Hicks, we had 2 major tax cuts prior to this one, Kennedys and Reagans. Both led to historic growth and prosperity. Not good growth, historic growth.

Both were passed bipartisan and if you add up the votes it was more liberals than conservatives who supported them.

I'll give you and kelly the benefit of maybe just not knowing. It's not partisan like your leaders are stoking you to believe.

[khicks26]

Hicks, we had 2 major tax cuts prior to this one, Kennedys and Reagans. Both led to historic growth and prosperity. Not good growth, historic growth.

Both were passed bipartisan and if you add up the votes it was more liberals than conservatives who supported them.

I'll give you and kelly the benefit of maybe just not knowing. It's not partisan like your leaders are stoking you to believe.

Yeah I know it was bipartisan. I already told you I don't like corporate DEM's, nor do I vote for them.

You also forgot the Bush tax cuts which were followed by the 08 crash & Bill Clinton had something to do with it also.

After Reagans cuts we had a Recession.

We also had the deregulated roaring 20's before the Great Depression.

JFK's cuts were from 90% to 50% or something like that & we didn't have a ton of deregulation. Going from 90% to 50% is not the same as going from 50% to 35% with loopholes. Also JFK had a better American economy. Jobs & capital were not being deported overseas. Makes a big difference.

Now were going to 21% with added loopholes. BIG CRASH?

[khicks26]

this is why the idiots on this site vote for these cunning assholes. They don’t know shit about this tax bill just like the assholes who passed it. This was nothing but paying back their donors at the expense of the American workers because they were threaten to give them that money back. Pathetic. These asshole scumbag Republicans are smiling and chest pounding because their donors were getting fed up and now the cash cow is back in place. That is all they cared about. Getting more money to run more scams.

Yeah all these guys are fuking schills.

[khicks26]

[khicks26]

[guitarjosh]

Yeah I know it was bipartisan. I already told you I don't like corporate DEM's, nor do I vote for them.

You also forgot the Bush tax cuts which were followed by the 08 crash & Bill Clinton had something to do with it also.

After Reagans cuts we had a Recession.

We also had the deregulated roaring 20's before the Great Depression.

JFK's cuts were from 90% to 50% or something like that & we didn't have a ton of deregulation. Going from 90% to 50% is not the same as going from 50% to 35% with loopholes. Also JFK had a better American economy. Jobs & capital were not being deported overseas. Makes a big difference.

Now were going to 21% with added loopholes. BIG CRASH?

All of this is just a logical fallacy, correlation = causation. Prior to 1913 we didn't have income taxes outside times of war and that was our greatest period of growth, a time when we were known around the world as the Land of Opportunity, a time that I'm willing to bet saw some of your ancestors willingly move here.

[brooks85]

I dislike Maddow & I don't know who the other guy is.

In a post on the other page I called Bill Clinton the worse president in US history. But he did have a little help from Reagan & Bush 2 on the 08 crash. Giving people loans who can't pay them back is not a Dem or Rep thing. Its about profit.

Yes, History & facts can be a SOB. You should take the time to learn some.

wrong


notice the trend of who making up BS and you even proudly admitted to this.

[grease lightnin]

All of this is just a logical fallacy, correlation = causation. Prior to 1913 we didn't have income taxes outside times of war and that was our greatest period of growth, a time when we were known around the world as the Land of Opportunity, a time that I'm willing to bet saw some of your ancestors willingly move here.

Sounds good when you say it but yeah not really.

http://visualizingeconomics.com/blog/2011/03/08/long-term-real-growth-in-us-gdp-per-capita-1871-2009

[grease lightnin]

wrong


notice the trend of who making up BS and you even proudly admitted to this.

It was a dem thing, a repub thing, a ratings agency thing, etc.

So many to blame.