Nicky: Question about your Matchbook plays

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  • onthewhat
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    • 05-14-08
    • 15411

    #1
    Nicky: Question about your Matchbook plays
    Nicky, lets say in bases Pinny has -150/+140, and Matchy has +/-145...whats the play?

    If Pinny has Lakers -6 -105/Magic +6 -105 and Matchy has +/-6 -101 whats the play?

    How do you come up with your Matchy plays? Do you wait for Pinny move the bases game from -150 to -153 then hammer -145 on Matchy because the offers are out there waiting to be matched?
  • Nicky Santoro
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    • 04-08-08
    • 16103

    #2
    1st one is a play.. it's a +ev bet.

    2nd one is NO PLAY. it's a -ev bet.


    i just get a feel by looking at the screen which way a game is moving. it doesn't always go my way, but more often than not. it's hard to explain it.
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    • Nicky Santoro
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      • 04-08-08
      • 16103

      #3
      btw, 1st one is a play.. i failed to mention it's +145..

      that's the +ev bet..
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      • onthewhat
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        • 05-14-08
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        #4
        So then with Matchy, and your guy calling, and locals giving you a good # to get off one sided action, you are pretty much on every game in the major sports right? Sides and totals?
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        • Nicky Santoro
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          • 04-08-08
          • 16103

          #5
          i have action on about 92% of the board.. i am a sick man, onner. from 7 pm till 2 am, i am on a bigger high than any crack addict. on any big night, i can do very well... but on any given night, i can go 3-22 and not sleep one wink.. that's what makes gambling great.. i've had months where i only had 4 winning days.. it's fukkin tough.

          i need help, onner. this is not normal for a guy to live his life like this.. you have no idea the stress i go through.. i'll be lucky to make it past 50.

          but would i trade this lifestyle for anything else? hell no..
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          • Ganchrow
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 08-28-05
            • 5011

            #6
            Originally posted by onthewhat
            Nicky, lets say in bases Pinny has -150/+140, and Matchy has +/-145...whats the play?
            Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
            btw, 1st one is a play... +145 ... that's the +ev bet..
            Actually, assuming the Pinny market of -150/+140 unbiased, then fair value would be ±144.

            Matchbook charges 0.6% on accept side MLB moneylines meaning that +145 gross is actually ~ +143.54 net.

            Hence, neither side is prima facie +EV.
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            • Nicky Santoro
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              • 04-08-08
              • 16103

              #7
              Originally posted by Ganchrow
              Actually, assuming the Pinny market of -150/+140 unbiased, then fair value would be ±144.

              Matchbook charges 0.6% on accept side MLB moneylines meaning that +145 gross is actually ~ +143.54 net.

              Hence, neither side is prima facie +EV.

              if it is matched, it's a +ev bet.. and then some.. 93% of my bets at matchy are matched anyway. i hardly take a game that is offered. unless it's a really good price.. in bases, it is very easy to have your offer matched. unlike hockey.
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              • onthewhat
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                • 05-14-08
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                #8
                Ganch you are not in the same league as Nicky

                Watch out before you say something stupid Ganch
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                • Thor4140
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                  • 02-09-08
                  • 22296

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
                  i have action on about 92% of the board.. i am a sick man, onner. from 7 pm till 2 am, i am on a bigger high than any crack addict. on any big night, i can do very well... but on any given night, i can go 3-22 and not sleep one wink.. that's what makes gambling great.. i've had months where i only had 4 winning days.. it's fukkin tough.

                  i need help, onner. this is not normal for a guy to live his life like this.. you have no idea the stress i go through.. i'll be lucky to make it past 50.

                  but would i trade this lifestyle for anything else? hell no..
                  Serious question Nicky. Lets say u quit doing this because u had enuf of it. Do u think u can fill this time with something else in life? I think we have missed out a lot of life doing this but then i think if it is over we will be bored stiff.
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                  • Nicky Santoro
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                    • 04-08-08
                    • 16103

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Thor4140
                    Serious question Nicky. Lets say u quit doing this because u had enuf of it. Do u think u can fill this time with something else in life? I think we have missed out a lot of life doing this but then i think if it is over we will be bored stiff.
                    thorry, it's the only reason i wake up in the morning.. no joke. thorry, i don't know how i'd pass my nights if there wasn't sports to watch with $$ on it.. what else am i going to do?? go out with the GF for supper.. ouch.. or watch some dumb reality show?? ouch even more..

                    without this life, i would be bored and lost. it brings joy to my life and gives me a reason to live..
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                    • Ganchrow
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                      • 08-28-05
                      • 5011

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
                      if it is matched, it's a +ev bet.. and then some.
                      True. But if taken it's -EV.

                      Let's just make it clear that if Pinnacle is at +140/-150 on an MLB ML, and one can find the same ML on Matchbook +145, then assuming an unbiased market that would represent a -EV bet.
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                      • Nicky Santoro
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                        • 04-08-08
                        • 16103

                        #12
                        when onner says it's +/-145 at matchy, that means that it is probably -146/+145, or even more common a line would be -147/+145.. now if it's that, then it would be very easy to not only get +145, but he can easily get +146 now. which is a tad higher than +146 after extra commission... which is even better than his +145, and very easy to get the +146, too..
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                        • onthewhat
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                          • 05-14-08
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                          #13
                          Nicky no one knows offshore better than you.

                          Ganch you are out of your league here with Nicky.
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                          • Nicky Santoro
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                            • 04-08-08
                            • 16103

                            #14
                            Originally posted by onthewhat
                            Nicky no one knows offshore better than you.

                            Ganch you are out of your league here with Nicky.
                            you tell him, onner..lol
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                            • tullamore
                              SBR MVP
                              • 07-17-07
                              • 3586

                              #15
                              Nicky is it hard to get your bets in when onner's lips are superglued to your cock?
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                              • blittydeuce
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                                • 06-11-08
                                • 5572

                                #16
                                Originally posted by tullamore
                                Nicky is it hard to get your bets in when onner's lips are superglued to your cock?
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                                • Willie Bee
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                                  • 02-14-06
                                  • 15726

                                  #17
                                  Nicky, is Matchbook where you have the pending American Idol bet on Kris Allen? LINK
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                                  • Nicky Santoro
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                                    • 04-08-08
                                    • 16103

                                    #18
                                    wilbert buddy, i was being sarcastic. AI was over 3 weeks ago..lol


                                    i'm shocked you fell for that one..
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                                    • Willie Bee
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                                      • 02-14-06
                                      • 15726

                                      #19
                                      Just figured you were still trying to beat the closing line, ace.
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                                      • onthewhat
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                                        • 05-14-08
                                        • 15411

                                        #20
                                        Willie watch it guy

                                        You are not in Nicky's league Willie
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                                        • durito
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                                          • 07-03-06
                                          • 13173

                                          #21
                                          wow
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                                          • Dazzez
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                                            • 08-04-06
                                            • 258

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
                                            when onner says it's +/-145 at matchy, that means that it is probably -146/+145, or even more common a line would be -147/+145
                                            Maybe that means it's '-145/+144 "or even more common a line would be" -145/+143'?
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                                            • durito
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                                              • 07-03-06
                                              • 13173

                                              #23
                                              this thread needs bumping
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                                              • onthewhat
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                                                • 05-14-08
                                                • 15411

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by durito
                                                this thread needs bumping
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                                                • betplom
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                                                  • 09-20-06
                                                  • 13444

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by onthewhat
                                                  Nicky no one knows offshore better than you.

                                                  Ganch you are out of your league here with Nicky.
                                                  Ganch doesn't want to play with you ontheNicky.
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