Photos of D-Day (link)

[robzilla]

Not as great as outing yourself as a complete simpleton.

"Good. There. Good. Insult us. Is more typical rude behavior toward visiting foreigners." -RockyIV

[AgainstAllOdds]

[robzilla]

Robzilla would have a tough time following the movie. Barney is not running around in it telling kids how to clean up.

Barney probably teaches University classes at party schools in the states. Did he teach your VCR repair class at DeVry?

[unknown Gambler]

Who the fuk are you?!? you need atleast 500 posts to talk to me.

Im not talking to you, im telling you what a low life you are, for your retarded statement.

I DARE YOU TO BECOME A MAN AND APOLOGIZE TO THE BOARD!

[reno cool]

say no to war

and that goes for all of you

assholes

[Willie Bee]

The ladies (Canadian men) were hiding at home while other people died protecting the world.

You really have no clue, do you? You come in spouting your venom when robzilla was making a joke. Ok, maybe you think it was a badly timed joke, but that's what it was. And yet out of ignorance, you want to trash an entire country. Are you going to tell me that your post was also a joke and, if so, why can you joke but not robzilla.

Read up on your history bateman. Canadians died on Juno Beach and, I suspect, on other beaches at the Normandy landing.

[Willie Bee]

and that goes for all of you assholes

Reno, even me?

[FIRST CLASS]

You are ****ing piece of shit. Do you know how many people died that day asshole? **** you and your whole family you lowlife scum.

My dad's uncle was there and had friends die in his arms. I hope someone kicks your head in one day or better yet puts you out of your misery.

GREAT ?


answer seems to be in your avatar . . . . .

[FIRST CLASS]

quoted wrong post Obviously . . .

[FIRST CLASS]

http://todayspictures.slate.com/20090605/

WOW

65--Yr Anniv

[BatemanPatrickl]

You really have no clue, do you? You come in spouting your venom when robzilla was making a joke. Ok, maybe you think it was a badly timed joke, but that's what it was. And yet out of ignorance, you want to trash an entire country. Are you going to tell me that your post was also a joke and, if so, why can you joke but not robzilla.

Read up on your history bateman. Canadians died on Juno Beach and, I suspect, on other beaches at the Normandy landing.

Really? I thought only Americans fought in that war

Can't mess with the former teacher now a SBR moderator Willie Bee; he'll put you in your place with his cold hard facts and unbiased opinions. That and his daughter will call you a poop mouth.

[BatemanPatrickl]

Barney probably teaches University classes at party schools in the states. Did he teach your VCR repair class at DeVry?

I graduated from a four year university that requires SAT scores. Get your facts straight Blobzilla; good looking getting that next order picking job.

[unknown Gambler]

Bateman, i believe your heart was in the right place, you just got your facts mixed up, many Canadians died on Normandy beach D-day.

Your defense of a totally inappropriat joke was all good. IMO

RoBZILLA must be mad at the world so he took it out on Vets, hopefuuly he will find a 7-11that will cash his pro-line ticket, and he`ll feel better.

[erikh06]

I run the website that was linked earlier in this thread. Decided I'd take a minute to make a short point after reading this post:

Like I said the Canadians were at home hiding out. Notice that the US had double the amount of casualties and the UK triple???

The United States had a population of about 138 million in 1944, compared to Canada at just under 12 million. A relative of mine died in Normandy in fighting against the German 12th S.S. Division at Buron... he definitely was not hiding at home.

[reno cool]

US had political motives for direct involvement in the war against Germany in 1944. Why was there any Canadians there at all? It's not like Canada got half of Europe.

[robzilla]

I run the website that was linked earlier in this thread. Decided I'd take a minute to make a short point after reading this post:

Like I said the Canadians were at home hiding out. Notice that the US had double the amount of casualties and the UK triple???

The United States had a population of about 138 million in 1944, compared to Canada at just under 12 million. A relative of mine died in Normandy in fighting against the German 12th S.S. Division at Buron... he definitely was not hiding at home.

Thank you sir. That person said that because they are half retarded.

[The General]

The storming of the beaches, parachute drops into enemy territory. But 60 years later, the number of dead is still unclear.

The chaos of battle and the vast scale of the assault thwarted attempts then -- and now -- to tally how many thousands were killed in the June 6, 1944, landings that sped Nazi Germany's defeat.

Bodies disintegrated under bombs and shells. Soldiers drowned and disappeared. Company clerks who tallied casualties were killed. Records were lost.

"Landing crafts were hit," said Ivy Agee, an 81-year-old from Gordonsville, Tenn., who fought on Omaha Beach. "Bodies were flying everywhere. There was blood on the edge of the water, the beach was just running with pure blood."

Historians say a definitive death toll will likely never be known.

"Now and then, construction work unearths bones and skeletons from soldiers. This happens fairly often," said Fritz Kirchmeier, a spokesman for the German organization that tends the 80,000 graves for German soldiers in Normandy.

Casualty estimates for Allied forces vary, but range from 2,500 to more than 5,000 dead on D-Day. Adding to the confusion is that D-Day books and histories often count wounded, missing and troops taken prisoner.

On its Web site, the D-Day Museum in Portsmouth, England, says an estimated 2,500 Allied troops died. The U.S. Army Center of Military History in Washington, D.C., numbers 6,036 American casualties, including wounded and missing. The Heritage Foundation in Washington estimates 4,900 dead.

"It's very difficult to get accurate figures. People get buried. Bodies disintegrate. Evidence of the deaths disappeared. People drowned," said John Keegan, author of "Six Armies in Normandy: From D-Day to the Liberation of Paris."

He estimates 2,500 Americans and 3,000 other Allied troops died on D-Day.

More than 19,000 civilians in Normandy also died in Allied bombing before and after D-Day to soften up German defenses. And Allied air forces lost nearly 12,000 men in April and May 1944 in operations ahead of the invasion, the D-Day Museum says.

Even as the ranks of veterans who survived the assault and the push into Germany thin with time, work on tallying the dead continues.

Carol Tuckwiller, director of research at the National D-Day Memorial Foundation in Bedford, Va., has spent four years combing through government, military and cemetery records for names of Allied dead on D-Day. She hopes to have a figure by next year.

"We feel like we're probably going to end up with a total of about 4,500 fatalities for both the Americans and Allied countries. Right now, we have about 4,200 names confirmed," she said. "Of course we realize we may never be 100 percent complete."

In all, some 160,000 men invaded Nazi-occupied France in the first wave, in three paratroop and six infantry divisions, tank and commando units. The invasion fleet was the biggest armada in history, with more than 5,000 ships and landing craft. That more troops were not killed is testimony to the planning, training and overwhelming firepower of the Allies.

Sir Winston Churchill, Britain's wartime prime minister, "said to his wife before going to bed that he was afraid that when they woke up, more than 20,000 people would have been killed," said Andrew Whitmarsh, the D-day Museum's military historian.

"The low casualty rates show the success of the Allied plan of attack."

Calculating German casualties is even harder. The D-Day Museum says the number is not known but is estimated at 4,000-9,000. Kirchmeier at the German graves commission said many records were destroyed in the Allied bombing of Berlin.

D-Day marked only the start of the battle of Normandy, which claimed many more lives as troops fought in the region's hedgerows over the next three months.

More than 425,000 Allied and German troops were killed, wounded or went missing, the D-Day Museum says. The American Cemetery overlooking Omaha Beach holds the remains of 9,383 servicemen and four women, their white gravestones a permanent reminder of war's terrible costs.

"If you forget what happened here then you're never going to improve things. It's never going to get any better," Donald Null, an 80-year-old veteran from Frederick, Md., said as he visited the American Cemetery. "You must keep it alive."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,121829,00.html

[The General]

I run the website that was linked earlier in this thread. Decided I'd take a minute to make a short point after reading this post:

Like I said the Canadians were at home hiding out. Notice that the US had double the amount of casualties and the UK triple???

The United States had a population of about 138 million in 1944, compared to Canada at just under 12 million. A relative of mine died in Normandy in fighting against the German 12th S.S. Division at Buron... he definitely was not hiding at home.

Thanks for stopping in, erikh06. Welcome.

[The General]

Video

http://www.army.mil/d-day/

June 6, 1944, 160,000 Allied troops landed along a 50-mile stretch of heavily-fortified French coastline to fight Nazi Germany on the beaches of Normandy, France. General Dwight D. Eisenhower called the operation a crusade in which “we will accept nothing less than full victory.” More than 5,000 Ships and 13,000 aircraft supported the D-Day invasion, and by day’s end on June 6, the Allies gained a foot- hold in Normandy. The D-Day cost was high -more than 9,000 Allied Soldiers were killed or wounded -- but more than 100,000 Soldiers began the march across Europe to defeat Hitler.




General Eisenhower's Message Sent Just Prior to the Invasion.

Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen of the Allied Expeditionary Force! You are about to embark upon a great crusade, toward which we have striven these many months. The eyes of the world are upon you. The hopes and prayers of liberty loving people everywhere march with you. In company with our brave Allies and brothers in arms on other fronts, you will bring about the destruction of the German war machine, the elimination of Nazi tyranny over the oppressed peoples of Europe, and security for ourselves in a free world.

Your task will not be an easy one. Your enemy is well trained, well equipped and battle hardened, he will fight savagely.

But this is the year 1944! Much has happened since the Nazi triumphs of 1940-41. The United Nations have inflicted upon the Germans great defeats, in open battle, man to man. Our air offensive has seriously reduced their strength in the air and their capacity to wage war on the ground. Our home fronts have given us an overwhelming superiority in weapons and munitions of war, and placed at our disposal great reserves of trained fighting men. The tide has turned! The free men of the world are marching together to victory!

I have full confidence in your courage, devotion to duty and skill in battle. We will accept nothing less than full victory!

Good Luck! And let us all beseech the blessings of Almighty God upon this great and noble undertaking.

-- Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower

[erikh06]

My pleasure

[Willie Bee]

On its Web site, the D-Day Museum in Portsmouth, England, says an estimated 2,500 Allied troops died. The U.S. Army Center of Military History in Washington, D.C., numbers 6,036 American casualties, including wounded and missing. The Heritage Foundation in Washington estimates 4,900 dead.

Have not been to that museum, but I can recommend first-hand the D-Day Museum in New Orleans as a great experience. It's right where they built all of the Higgins boats that were eventually used for landing crafts at Normandy and hundreds of other beaches around the world. If you're ever in NOLA, go visit the place.

[capitalist pig]

For the record Canada declared (1939) war on Germany 2 years before the US (1941) did.

later

[Bread]

Bateman will throw down with anyone, anytime. He's on a mission.

FWIW, I thought Zilla's joke was hilarious. Possibly not the best spot to lay it out there, but funny all the same. That's not diminishing the respect I have for those men in any way. Guys showed bravery that I could only dream of possessing.

[Jacey]

Have not been to that museum, but I can recommend first-hand the D-Day Museum in New Orleans as a great experience. It's right where they built all of the Higgins boats that were eventually used for landing crafts at Normandy and hundreds of other beaches around the world. If you're ever in NOLA, go visit the place.

Been there twice. Called the WWII Museum now.

And oh yea, my great uncle fought in the Pacific theater including Iwo Jima. The pictures he sent me in boot camp got me huge cred with my drill instructors.

[robzilla]

Bateman will throw down with anyone, anytime. He's on a mission.

FWIW, I thought Zilla's joke was hilarious. Possibly not the best spot to lay it out there, but funny all the same. That's not diminishing the respect I have for those men in any way. Guys showed bravery that I could only dream of possessing.

See, Bread got Robin cuz he has a sense of humor.

[reno cool]

Reno, even me?

Willie if you insist on going to war you're going to have to petition the Minister of War Mongering and Brainwashing.

[Willie Bee]

Been there twice. Called the WWII Museum now.

And oh yea, my great uncle fought in the Pacific theater including Iwo Jima. The pictures he sent me in boot camp got me huge cred with my drill instructors.

You're right, WWII Museum, guess I just had D-Day on the brain. Tell your uncle thanks.

[pavyracer]

Everyone forgets that if it wasn't for the Soviets crashing the elite Nazi forces at Stalingrad D-Day would have been a disaster. The Germans were defending the beaches with inferior and inadequately trained forces without Panzer tank squadrons.

[reno cool]

Don't let facts get in the way of America saving the world Pavy.

[Willie Bee]

Everyone forgets that if it wasn't for the Soviets crashing the elite Nazi forces at Stalingrad D-Day would have been a disaster. The Germans were defending the beaches with inferior and inadequately trained forces without Panzer tank squadrons.

Which then takes us back to the fact that if Hitler had never opened up a second front, those elite nazi forces would've been guarding the Western borders. So I guess we should be thanking Hitler for engaging an Eastern front.

[sickler]

Everyone forgets that if it wasn't for the Soviets crashing the elite Nazi forces at Stalingrad D-Day would have been a disaster. The Germans were defending the beaches with inferior and inadequately trained forces without Panzer tank squadrons.

Hollywood at work. They glorify the American role without passing on the somewhat important fact that the Germans bit off more than they could chew when they decided to take on the massive Soviet Union.

[pico]

omaha was the worst spot for casualities for dday

[pavyracer]

Which then takes us back to the fact that if Hitler had never opened up a second front, those elite nazi forces would've been guarding the Western borders. So I guess we should be thanking Hitler for engaging an Eastern front.

This is true because up until Hitler made the ill attempt to attack the Soviets in the dead of winter the Western Front (Belgium, France and the British forces) were either defeated or being thrown at sea in Dunkirk. With the Nazi forces defeated on the Eastern Front and in retreat it was just a matter of time for the Western Front to collapse with inadequate forces defending it. It was a collaborative victory of many nations yet the average american thinks the US saved the world.

[lakerboy]

This is true because up until Hitler made the ill attempt to attack the Soviets in the dead of winter the Western Front (Belgium, France and the British forces) were either defeated or being thrown at sea in Dunkirk. With the Nazi forces defeated on the Eastern Front and in retreat it was just a matter of time for the Western Front to collapse with inadequate forces defending it. It was a collaborative victory of many nations yet the average american thinks the US saved the world.

the germans considered us soldiers to be pu$$ies. the best battles were fought in russia, italy and holland and none of them involved american troops