Tennis people - Murray vs Gonzales?

EaglesPhan36 · 06-02-09, 12:48 AM

It's all about whether you believe the "virus" rumors regarding Gonzalez's decision to pull out of doubles. If you believe he will be affected by this, then yes Murray would probably be your choice. I however don't see definitive proof that this virus is a problem. Could be a ploy. Could be a 24 hour bug that has no effect. Could be a bug that drains Gonzo completely. I'm going into it as if the virus talk is just talk and in that case, Gonzalez is my pick because his clay court form has been solid and Murray is still getting comfortable on the surface.

xxdjstriderxx · 06-02-09, 01:04 AM

Gonzalez

twister · 06-02-09, 01:05 AM

Just so you know, this is the furthest Murray has got in the French Open.

His pre-tournament hopes were of reaching week 2, suggesting that he didn't have much confidence in going any further. Whereas I wouldn't discount him, it is interesting/helpful to know a players mindset. Maybe this will let him play with more freedom, or perhaps he knows his clay-court skills are limited.

Netprofit · 06-02-09, 01:08 AM

For me, Gonzalez is very good "value" (but i kind of hesitate to use this word for reason some may guess) at +money.

tacomax · 06-02-09, 02:03 AM

CrazyLou told me that his model calculated the true odds on Murray at -5687. Pound that line faster than RogueScholar would pound englishmike's arse.

The General · 06-02-09, 02:05 AM

Gonzo and plus money is good

The General · 06-02-09, 02:05 AM

Murray is a lock since I posted above so Go with Murray BIG, Sir.

SportsTerminator · 06-02-09, 02:28 AM

I heard Gonzalez is really good on clay. But I got good inside tip lol telling me that Murray will win.

jjgold · 06-02-09, 05:12 AM

Murray

Most underrrated player on tour

HeeeHAWWWW · 06-02-09, 05:48 AM

Gonzo = better claycourter than Murray, in terrific form ...... but not that much variety.

Murray = better big match player, vastly better tactically. Most importantly, with Nadal out, he's now got a good shot at winning the tournament - he's beaten Federer 5 times in a row. Expect him to throw the whole range of his talent at Gonzalez today.

Can't make up my mind tbh.

Netprofit · 06-02-09, 05:51 AM

guys, is there any link for online live telecast at all?

ZXCVBNM · 06-02-09, 08:04 AM

Murray is a great player, switches up style, is versatile, etc. Gonzalez hasn't faced anyone like him yet.

And the idiots over at tennis insight prefer him 50-30 over Murray, just confirmation that Murray is winning this.

l7ustin · 06-02-09, 08:07 AM

espn360 has all the matches, and murray is taking this.

robzilla · 06-02-09, 09:45 AM

My man gonzo looks good early. Making Murray run all over the place

SexyMit · 06-02-09, 09:49 AM

Originally posted by robzilla

My man gonzo looks good early. Making Murray run all over the place

So far so good! Hopefully he can keep it up and put murray away!

SexyMit · 06-02-09, 09:59 AM

Looking like its going to be a very looong match!

SexyMit · 06-02-09, 11:28 AM

Gonzo is just dominateing Murray!

bettilimbroke999 · 06-02-09, 11:42 AM

Serving for the match Gonzo loses 4 straight points

bettilimbroke999 · 06-02-09, 11:47 AM

Well then Murray loses 4 straight points on his serve, congrats Gonzo

HeeeHAWWWW · 06-02-09, 12:38 PM

Strange match - Gonzo brilliant first set, then Murray fights back and takes the second, playing perfect stuff (literally made zero errors that 2nd set). Then.......... explodes. Can't keep the ball in court. In his first service game he made 5 UEs, almost as many as in the first two sets put together.

It's a concentration thing with Murray on clay I think. Just needs such a mental effort to keep his game up, whereas on hard and particularly indoors he can do anything and everything he needs, it's all so natural and unstressful.

SBR Lou · 06-02-09, 12:39 PM

Originally posted by HeeeHAWWWW

Strange match - Gonzo brilliant first set, then Murray fights back and takes the second, playing perfect stuff (literally made zero errors that 2nd set). Then.......... explodes. Can't keep the ball in court. In his first service game he made 5 UEs, almost as many as in the first two sets put together.

It's a concentration thing with Murray on clay I think. Just needs such a mental effort to keep his game up, whereas on hard and particularly indoors he can do anything and everything he needs, it's all so natural and unstressful.

It wasn't concentration, his game is far more tailored to hard courts.

HeeeHAWWWW · 06-02-09, 01:02 PM

It's definitely concentration imo when you win a set with literally no errors, then immediately collapse and lose the next 0-6 :-) Gonzo had to do very little that set either, Murray couldn't make basic shots without netting or sending it wide.

Same thing at the end of the match, Gonzo breaks and is serving for the match. Then Murray raises his game, brilliant stuff, breaks. Having got over that huge hurdle, all the mental effort .............collapse. Loses his serve and the match with four basic errors.

Reason I brought it up is I've seen it before: he did it against Potro in Madrid. Was winning first set, looking pretty comfortable, serving for the set. Then string broke, completely went off form, lost 11 points in a row with loads of errors, played badly in the tiebreak, and lost the 2nd set before he could get any form back. Not that far different against Monaco in Rome either.