MLB roster: what the hell does this mean?

[Justin7]

St. Louis Cardinals placed SS Khalil Greene on the 15-Day disabled list retroactive to May 28, 2009. Social anxiety disorder.

[Mudcat]

Not entirely sure what part you want explained. The way the DL works retroactively, or are you just asking what Social Anxiety Disorder is?

[SBR Lou]

I'm pretty sure he knows what social anxiety disorder is, but it is most interesting to see a professional athlete on the 15 day DL because of it? You kiddin' me?

[Justin7]

Yes - Social Anxiety Disorder. And how does that keep you from playing ball?

[jellobiafra]

He needs to smart smoking week with Ricky Williams. Problem solved.

[Mudcat]

Social Anxiety Disorder is pretty much what it sounds like. People who have bad reactions to social situations. Could be panic attacks. Could be nausea. I'm sure there is a wikipedia page about it.

Someone making their living in the public eye would be in a particularly tough spot.

I don't know the specifics of this guy's situation but it is possible he is adjusting to some new meds. It's also possible he is going into to treatment due to self-medicating. People with this disorder are very prone to substance abuse.

[Sinister Cat]

I would assume that he's simply refusing to play, or doesn't feel like he can go out there, due to anxiety. Same thing happened with Greinke a few years ago right?

[onthewhat]

Dontrelle Willis was on the DL earlier in the year for something similar.

[Willie Bee]

Anxiety was what had Dontrelle Willis on the DL earlier this season. Not your everyday reason for a DL move, at least not a conventional injury/malady, and it has me wondering a bit about any correlation it might have to somethng I read a year or so ago.

When the new MLB drug policy went into effect a few years back, the article (can't find it right now on-line) mentioned that players claimed they suffered from ADD rose sharply and the angle of the article was so they could get a script for Ritalin and be ok on the tests since there's an amphetamine of some sort in the Ritalin. Now I'm not sure what they treat this anxiety with, but if we see this more and more in the near future, one can't help but wonder if at least some of the cases aren't just to get a free pass for something in the drug.

[Dank_Fire]

Same kinda stuff that got to Vince Young last season

[Mudcat]

Too bad vanzack isn't around much these days. He openly talked about having this disorder. He was involved in some very interesting discussion both about the experience of having it and the medications (and other factors) that helped him overcome.

[Chi_archie]

for social anxiety most like this dude would be put on some sort ob benzodiazapam...somthing like clonipan and an SSR like paxil, prosac ect... nothing that would really help you. although the benzos make you very very relaxed and playing relaxed in bases is good... I think it would hinder his energy, make him groggy, and lose his edge/focus

[Mudcat]

It's a weird situation. For a lot of years Jim Eisenreich was said to have a disorder like this. He actually retired in his prime as I recall and people talked about it as if it was due to his inability to deal with crowds and pressure.

It wasn't until years later that it was revealed he actually had Tourette's Syndrome. (And he did get proper treatment and come back and have a fairly long career so good for him.)

I guess that has nothing to do with this thread except to say, when you see that as a reason for being on the DL, it is definitely a head-scratcher.

[pavyracer]

90% of hitting a baseball is mental and 10% is physical ability. You lose the mental ability to step into the plate you are done.

[rake922]

Yes - Social Anxiety Disorder. And how does that keep you from playing ball?

How are you a mod? wtf

[Brock Landers]

they invent new conditions all the time

[BGS 9.5]

Anybody that has suffered through panic attacks knows this is no laughing matter.

Yes, he is a paid pro making a lot of dough, but trust me, this condition can be debilitating....

[Slanina]

The best pitcher of 2009 so far recently dealt with this disorder. Does anyone know who that is?








Greinke!

[Mudcat]

Sinister Cat mentioned Greinke so I'll say Greinke. Sinister Cat is the defending Beat The Prick champion so I feel okay coat-tailing him.

[VegasDave]

Great, I always love a good thread bashing depression and anxiety disorders.

It's sad that in this day and age people still refuse to accept these conditions as serious.

Broken ankle: "Ouch, that sucks, hope he has a speedy recovery"

Bi-polar depression with nervous breakdown: "HAHA! What a loser! What does he have to be sad about?? I'll make sure to boo him extra loudly when he gets back."

Trust me, I'm sure Greene would rather have a physical injury, because those heal and you go about your business. Mental conditions are much tougher to handle.

[onthewhat]

Good post Dave

For some reason there is still a huge stigma about mental disorders

[The HG]

What does it mean? It means people, presumably his teammates, were making fun of him for something, probably not baseball-related, probably more like they think he's gay or they think he's a nerd or something like that, and he was like WAHHH WAHHH WAHHH, I CAN'T PLAY BASEBALL ANYMORE BECAUSE THEY'RE MAKING FUN OF ME, WAA WAA WAA WAA WAA



and then they were like ok, would you feel better if we put you on the DL? and he was like yeah, so that's what they did.

[Justin7]

"Pass to second for the double play."

"F*ck you."

(SS Social disorder)

[onthewhat]

Not sure of the kids numbers, but its possible they are trying to stash him on the DL for a while if he was struggling.

[Mudcat]

Great, I always love a good thread bashing depression and anxiety disorders.

It's sad that in this day and age people still refuse to accept these conditions as serious.

Broken ankle: "Ouch, that sucks, hope he has a speedy recovery"

Bi-polar depression with nervous breakdown: "HAHA! What a loser! What does he have to be sad about?? I'll make sure to boo him extra loudly when he gets back."

Trust me, I'm sure Greene would rather have a physical injury, because those heal and you go about your business. Mental conditions are much tougher to handle.

That's odd. I was following the thread waiting for ignorant/bashing comments and was surprised that they weren't coming. Other than Brock Landers acting as a token cliche, I was surprised at the overall level of enlightenment by public forum standards.

Other than HG's comment, which came after your post, I'm not sure what you are seeing.

[element1286]

Not sure of the kids numbers, but its possible they are trying to stash him on the DL for a while if he was struggling.

I think that is exactly what they are doing, he has a .582 OPS.

[Vesuvius]

Just an excuse because they suck

[NEP Dynasty]

St. Louis Cardinals placed SS Khalil Greene on the 15-Day disabled list retroactive to May 28, 2009. Social anxiety disorder.

Not really sure why this is difficult for you to understand. He was placed on the DL because he is dealing with a social anxiety disorder.

[twister]

I think that is exactly what they are doing, he has a .582 OPS.

Maybe the .582 OPS is the result of the cause, rather than the cause of the result.

For anyone that has experienced, or been in the vacinity of someone experiencing social anxiety/panic attacks the effects can be quite shocking, and easy to misunderstand.

That said, it could as easily just be an excuse to throw him onto the DL, but to dismiss social anxiety outright would be silly.

[RogueJuror]

Jesus Navas from Sevilla missed almost a year 'cause of it.