Have never played at Matchbook, but need to.

RealSlimShady · 05-29-09, 06:24 PM

Occasionally, there is little to no liquidity.

onthewhat · 05-29-09, 06:26 PM

Tough to get money there I believe

******** or book to book transfer is about it

unknown Gambler · 05-29-09, 06:26 PM

Originally posted by SlickFazzer

great numbers, what are the downfalls to Matchy?

You have to spend 20 minutes learning the site, and if you have a very low IQ upwards of an hour.

Chi_archie · 05-29-09, 06:27 PM

must have out..... gotta transfer money...

and be quick on the draw somtimes..... not a big amount of $ at the lines you like either

Nicky Santoro · 05-29-09, 07:09 PM

if you're going to put in your bets 15 min before game time, you have no problem finding an amount you want. there is plenty to go around near game time.. and you don't even need to make an offer, you are still getting way way more than any other book..

it is NOT complicating at all. just look at it as any other lines you look at.. but way way better.. even if you dont want to get into the hassles of making offers..

crisp · 05-29-09, 07:23 PM

nicky has made hundreds of thousands of dollars on matchbook.

SlickFazzer · 05-29-09, 07:26 PM

good stuff, thanks guys

Nicky Santoro · 05-29-09, 07:28 PM

crispy, i wish..

matchbook is great and here is why it beats every other book.. even if you NEVER make offers, which would make it easy for you.

When Olympic or Cris have

NYY -120
CLE even

Matchy will have

NYY -110
CLE +109

which is equivalent to approx

NYY -111
CLE +108

still not bad, huh? a 3 cent line is way better than a 20 cent line, no?

you boys can't go wrong betting at matchy..

everyone should have an acct there..

bobbyfk · 05-29-09, 07:32 PM

i have one but looks like a PITA to get $ into there and it looks confusing to bet

Justin7 · 05-29-09, 07:36 PM

Matchbook will single-handedly force a lot of mainly internet books out of business. Pinnacle did huge damage to the internet markket with its 8 cent line 5 years ago, but pulled out of the US. Matchbook has a 3 cent line. If a book drifts a full point off market (which used to happen all the time), there is a scalp waiting at MB.

Every pro has an MB account.

The downside of MB: it will exhaust you. You feel forced to stay at your screen before each game. Today, I had bets on games going off from 2pm until 1015pm. Except for an hour break, I have to be at the MB screen almost the whole night.

Nicky Santoro · 05-29-09, 07:45 PM

Originally posted by Justin7

The downside of MB: it will exhaust you. You feel forced to stay at your screen before each game. Today, I had bets on games going off from 2pm until 1015pm. Except for an hour break, I have to be at the MB screen almost the whole night.

that's exactly exactly exactly the only reason i hate matchy.. i have to sit there and can't move from my fukkin desk all day to see if someone accepted my offer. i hate this.. i really do.. i can't go anywhere.. i can't even step out..

why can't matchy just make it like everyone and offer 2 cent lines all day long and we can bet them and get out.. that's one of the reasons i am always in front of my pc for 9 hrs a day.. my life would be so much easier if i can just submit bets and get out..

i can do this now, but i will end up with a shitty line.. in order to get a good line at matchy, you need to make offers.. but you need patience. i hate it.. and then sometimes no one accepts it and the line changes..

my dream is matchy just gives us a 2 cent line to play into..

MonkeyF0cker · 05-29-09, 08:03 PM

The API makes life pretty easy for programmers. I rarely watch it. There is one downfall that Ganch had problems with a while back (last fall I believe) where the site went down and any offers (including matched offers) were cancelled after a certain arbitrary cutoff. This can seriously threaten your bankroll if you are arbing a particular side or total. This can be a huge concern, but has happened extremely infrequently. I'm not aware of any problems since then.

Justin7 · 05-29-09, 08:07 PM

Another problem near crunch time is that with the 3-cent spread, both sides want to get matched, but neither side blinks. And then BOOM, the market is closed. About 1 in 8 games I play, I end up long on a side because I couldn't auto-sell it off at close.

MB needs a "auto-match at Close" option, where if the spread is 1 cent, both sides meet halfway and split the commission.

MonkeyF0cker · 05-29-09, 08:14 PM

You can program it to do that through the API, Justin.

Bread · 05-29-09, 08:17 PM

MB is great for American Idol betting.

Carry on gentlemen....

sofos · 05-29-09, 11:05 PM

Whether you bet for "fun" or profit you got to have a hole in your head not to have an account at Matchbook.

Justin7 · 05-29-09, 11:08 PM

Originally posted by sofos

Whether you bet for "fun" or profit you got to have a hole in your head not to have an account at Matchbook.

Agreed.

SPECULATOR 13 · 05-30-09, 06:56 AM

Originally posted by sofos

Whether you bet for "fun" or profit you got to have a hole in your head not to have an account at Matchbook.

Bang on sofos !!

AND Slicky if you are not in the states i would strongly recommend you also open a account with BETFAIR.They will aggravate you to no end by requiring that you send to them all sort of intrusive documentations before you get to place a bet.However once you've gone through their pathetic little initiation you will have access to a EXTRAORDINARY place to bet.I have to thank Big Boy Dan for turning on to them and urging me to learn their system,I also had a account with TRADESPORTS till they went under.
In September i am planning to open one with BETDAQ also as my 3rd source to replace TRADESPORTS,they are apparently just as good as BETFAIR and like TRADESPORTS also in Ireland.
I tried to ask for feedback out of Lads in the forum for any apraisal of BETDAQ but to no avail.

Nicky Santoro · 05-30-09, 10:16 AM

Originally posted by SPECULATOR 13

Bang on sofos !!

AND Slicky if you are not in the states i would strongly recommend you also open a account with BETFAIR.They will aggravate you to no end by requiring that you send to them all sort of intrusive documentations before you get to place a bet.However once you've gone through their pathetic little initiation you will have access to a EXTRAORDINARY place to bet.I have to thank Big Boy Dan for turning on to them and urging me to learn their system,I also had a account with TRADESPORTS till they went under.
In September i am planning to open one with BETDAQ also as my 3rd source to replace TRADESPORTS,they are apparently just as good as BETFAIR and like TRADESPORTS also in Ireland.
I tried to ask for feedback out of Lads in the forum for any apraisal of BETDAQ but to no avail.

specker, i haven't checked out betfair in ages, but last i checked, it was ridiculous. isn't the commission there very steep AND.. isn't it true that there isn't much offered to bet.... for example, i can only get about 64 bucks on one side, and 34 bucks on the other.. OR has betfair changed.. can i get a decent amount on games and how much is the commission charge?

thanks.

jjgold · 05-30-09, 10:31 AM

Originally posted by Justin7

Matchbook will single-handedly force a lot of mainly internet books out of business. Pinnacle did huge damage to the internet markket with its 8 cent line 5 years ago, but pulled out of the US. Matchbook has a 3 cent line. If a book drifts a full point off market (which used to happen all the time), there is a scalp waiting at MB.

Every pro has an MB account.

The downside of MB: it will exhaust you. You feel forced to stay at your screen before each game. Today, I had bets on games going off from 2pm until 1015pm. Except for an hour break, I have to be at the MB screen almost the whole night.

Justin people have been saying that for years, Matchbook has not dented one offshore book, volume is not on a big increase either over the years. People will always bet with traditional books period.

Fishhead · 05-30-09, 10:35 AM

I was one of the first posters that touted MB as being a great book.....3-4 years ago.

I can't believe how long it has taken for some to jump aboard.

GREATEST SPORTSBETTING OUTLET EVER FOR THIS OBSERVER.

How are they handling U.S. deposits these days?

SPECULATOR 13 · 05-30-09, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by Nicky Santoro

specker, i haven't checked out betfair in ages, but last i checked, it was ridiculous. isn't the commission there very steep AND.. isn't it true that there isn't much offered to bet.... for example, i can only get about 64 bucks on one side, and 34 bucks on the other.. OR has betfair changed.. can i get a decent amount on games and how much is the commission charge?

thanks.

Hey Nicky baby,

In my earlier post i forgot to mention the 5% that these c*cksuckers take when you cash out but what can you do?.There isn't much out there to put your money in without having to put up with all the bullsh*t.They allow you to win and let you catch back when you lose 'cause they don't care,they don't have too. And that old chum is worth a pound of gold.Sometimes especially around this time the liquidity for U.S. sports might be low but it should be better in September.Remember they cater first to the Euros and make it impossible for the Americans to play.If Barney Frank can repeal that internet bullsh*t law they are under,
they will than be able to put their $$$ in Betfair as they are doing now with Matchbook and happy days will be here again.
gotta go bro',I'll be back later tonight

Nicky Santoro · 05-30-09, 11:40 AM

tahnks specter.. so i guess betfair is only good for europeans taht bet soccer. so if i am betting baseball a lot and want action on it, betfair is not the place for me.. i dont feel like seeing a line i like, only to find out that i can have only 32 bucks on it..

Chuck Sims · 05-30-09, 05:53 PM

A must out. Liquidity has increased over the years. If you make an offer and ots accepted, Matcbook pats you a commission.

For tonights game Matchbook has:

Orlando -2 -108 moneyline -130
Cavs +2 +107 moneyline +129

Rich Boy · 05-30-09, 07:25 PM

Ive played at Matchbook and I can say that live-betting is the easiest money in the history of sports betting.

Way too many public squares overreact to plays early in a game.

Negatives: No parlays, no props, can get scammed into betting a horrible line if your not smart, can be frustrating when your offers dont get matched, cant lay big money on opening/overnight numbers

j0hnnyv · 05-30-09, 07:28 PM

there is tons of props on cavs game tonite. only negative imo is no parlays....every1 needs a parlay every once in awhile