Live Thread: The James Comey Hearings: Bigger Than NBA FINALS ..June 8th

[Optional]

I agree with most, until you said about trump

this is best case scenario for him

how anyone can think otherwise is absurd

I dunno Rudy. You might be right that Trump isn't worried. Be interesting to hear what his lawyer says about it in 25 mins.

But, the stuff about security agencies all telling administration Russia did, has in the past and will again work to influence US election results... and the people who tried to stop them investigating that, and in particular if any Americans helped them, is not going to go away I don't think.

Did you listen to much of it closely? Some pretty damning stuff that maybe didn't stand out without some media idiot shouting about it at the time.

[pilebuck13]

What point was he trying to make??

His point was that there was Russia interfering with election but only trump administration and team was being investigated and not Clinton but he really dropped the ball looked dumb guys a loser

[pilebuck13]

I dunno Rudy. You might be right that Trump isn't worried. Be interesting to hear what his lawyer says about it in 25 mins.

But, the stuff about security agencies all telling administration Russia did, has in the past and will again work to influence US election results... and the people who tried to stop them investigating that, and in particular if any Americans helped them, is not going to go away I don't think.

Did you listen to much of it closely? Some pretty damning stuff that maybe didn't stand out without some media idiot shouting about it at the time.

They have already said though numerous times that they have seen no evidence that Russia actually had a impact on the actual election results. Guy was fired now he's throwing little jabs. So he was willing to leak the memos to the New York Times? But didn't want to make a serious move with these memos? Leak them to a friend to the press guy is a grand stander show boater just as trump said. If these memos were very serious and he genuinely believed they could implement obstruction he wouldn't have given them to a friend and then press...guy looses all credibility in my opinion. Chicken shit move to do that how can you not agree

[Sam Odom]

Alan Dershowitz just posted

...Comey confirmed that under our Constitution, the president has the authority to direct the FBI to stop investigating any individual. I paraphrase, because the transcript is not yet available: the president can, in theory, decide who to investigate, who to stop investigating, who to prosecute and who not to prosecute. The president is the head of the unified executive branch of government, and the Justice Department and the FBI work under him and he may order them to do what he wishes.

As a matter of law, Comey is 100 percent correct. As I have long argued, and as Comey confirmed in his written statement, our history shows that many presidents—from Adams to Jefferson, to Lincoln, to Roosevelt, to Kennedy, to Bush 1, and to Obama – have directed the Justice Department with regard to ongoing investigations. The history is clear, the precedents are clear, the constitutional structure is clear, and common sense is clear.

Yet virtually every Democratic pundit, in their haste to “get” President Trump, has willfully ignored these realities. In doing so they have endangered our civil liberties and constitutional rights.

Now that even former Director Comey has acknowledged that the Constitution would permit the president to direct the Justice Department and the FBI in this matter, let us put the issue of obstruction of justice behind us once and for all and focus on the political, moral, and other non-criminal aspects of President Trump’s conduct...

So let’s move on and learn all the facts regarding the Russian efforts to intrude on American elections without that investigation being impeded by frivolous efforts to accuse President Trump of committing a crime by exercising his constitutional authority.

[brooks85]

hilarious

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They have already said though numerous times that they have seen no evidence that Russia actually had a impact on the actual election results.

Not arguing the facts but if you listened to the hearing, the question came up multiple times about what the FBI and other security agencies think and it was really re-enforced that they are Highly Confident they know Russia was involved, and it came from the top of their govt.

Even multiple Reps said they agreed with Comey saying America needed to investigate and fight it. And find any Americans that helped and nail them to the wall.

[brooks85]

I think his judgment and decisionmaking can be questionable, although I don't doubt his honesty or the accuracy of his testimony or statements, past or present.

lol d2 proving why markets exist, a true sucker.

[Optional]

So let’s move on and learn all the facts regarding the Russian efforts to intrude on American elections without that investigation being impeded by frivolous efforts to accuse President Trump of committing a crime by exercising his constitutional authority.

Isn't that what Trump was trying to prevent?

[pilebuck13]

Not arguing the facts but if you listened to the hearing, the question came up multiple times about what the FBI and other security agencies think and it was really re-enforced that they are Highly Confident they know Russia was involved, and it came from the top of their govt.

Even multiple Reps said they agreed with Comey saying America needed to investigate and fight it. And find any Americans that helped and nail them to the wall.

And trump himself has said multiple times in interviews if Russia interfered with our elections in any way or any country for that matter he wanted to get to the bottom of it. I'm sure everyone would agree with this. The problem is because trump won the media and trump haters are trying in every shape and form to draw a line from trump and trump team to Russia. Which is total bullshit thus far.

[Sam Odom]

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when do you think (year) the Russians/USSR began trying to "interfere" with USA elections ?

[Thor4140]

Could u imagine these asswipe partisan hack republicans saying the same things they are saying now if this was in reverse? It really is so sad that these pathetic individuals can never have a day in their life, to put politics behind them and do what is best for the country. They have no problem with what Russian is accused of because their so called guy won. The same guy who trashed every single one of their past hero's in the Republican debate (which of course they supported in the past). Just front running country crushing political hacks. Nothing new here.

[Sam Odom]

It really is so sad that these pathetic individuals can never have a day in their life, to put politics behind them and do what is best for the country.

and what would that be ?

[pilebuck13]

Isn't that what Trump was trying to prevent?

Where was he trying to prevent a investigation between authorities and looking into Russian interference with election? He, like many feels that because he won they are trying to draw a false narrative into him and his campaign that they aided Russia or any country in this effort. So intelligence agencies came out and said Russia had tried to interfere with election then the media and everyone tried to find any interaction or tie between his campaign and paint it with collusion. This is the problem

[pilebuck13]

Lol the irony in this how many elections have we interfered with lol

[Optional]

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when do you think (year) the Russians/USSR began trying to "interfere" with USA elections ?

I'd guess for a long time. Comey said they definitely know about it in previous elections and one of the reps asked about Senate election years.

Does it matter though?

Why hasn't anyone but people like Comey been fighting to investigate it properly and now?

I don't know know but isn't it a bit weird? Isn't it a bit weird people like you haven't seemed to care about that angle? (and by you I mean ordinary citizens)

[Sam Odom]

Flashback

Dec 12, 2016

According to the U.S. Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations (PSI), the State Department gave $349,276 in U.S. taxpayer-funded grants to a political group in Israel to build a campaign operation, which subsequently was used to try to influence Israelis to vote against conservative Benjamin Netanyahu in the March 2015 election for prime minister.

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Where was he trying to prevent a investigation between authorities and looking into Russian interference with election? He, like many feels that because he won they are trying to draw a false narrative into him and his campaign that they aided Russia or any country in this effort. So intelligence agencies came out and said Russia had tried to interfere with election then the media and everyone tried to find any interaction or tie between his campaign and paint it with collusion. This is the problem

Others will decide that, but we just listened to Comey say he believed he was sacked because he would not handle the Russian investigation as Trump wanted.

[chico2663]

the right has just lost the senate and maybe house. They better get their agenda done because he is out in 2 years. The american people do like the russians interfering in our elections. Only the dimwitted have no problem with this.

[Sam Odom]

Does it matter though?

yes... this meddling in elections is not new

but what is new... Libs/Dems are accusing the Prez as being active in the meddling WITHOUT a piece of factual evidence - just lies and Fake News

If/when facts are uncovered Sammy will be the first to yell for Trump's impeachment

[Kermit]

So did Russia get Obama elected twice?

[chico2663]

look for a few on trumps campaign will be tried for treason. It is not in the upper echelon but i'm hoping for rudy. For sure flynn.

[chico2663]

So did Russia get Obama elected twice?

Nope just the blacks and intellects.

[pilebuck13]

Others will decide that, but we just listened to Comey say he believed he was sacked because he would not handle the Russian investigation as Trump wanted.

Oh bull shit maybe because he didn't publicly state trump wasn't under investigation....your twisting the 2 investigations the one just on Russia interfering with the election and seperate looking into possible collision. No investigation stopped or changed when comey was fired comey stated that.

[pilebuck13]

look for a few on trumps campaign will be tried for treason. It is not in the upper echelon but i'm hoping for rudy. For sure flynn.

[pilebuck13]

yes... this meddling in elections is not new

but what is new... Libs/Dems are accusing the Prez as being active in the meddling WITHOUT a piece of factual evidence - just lies and Fake News

If/when facts are uncovered Sammy will be the first to yell for Trump's impeachment

See Sammy gets it.

[unusialsusp5]

the right has just lost the senate and maybe house. They better get their agenda done because he is out in 2 years. The american people do like the russians interfering in our elections. Only the dimwitted have no problem with this.

myself and many other dimwitted people do not care one iota if our elections are interfered with or if we interfere in other countries elections. why you care is beyond belief. let it go.

[chico2663]

The top never go. Just ask the administrations of nixon and reagan.

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yes... this meddling in elections is not new

but what is new... Libs/Dems are accusing the Prez as being active in the meddling WITHOUT a piece of factual evidence - just lies and Fake News

If/when facts are uncovered Sammy will be the first to yell for Trump's impeachment

Oh bull shit maybe because he didn't publicly state trump wasn't under investigation....your twisting the 2 investigations the one just on Russia interfering with the election and seperate looking into possible collision. No investigation stopped or changed when comey was fired comey stated that.

I get the feeling that both you guys, and some others posting with the strongest opinions here, didn't even listen to the Comey testimony


This was a factual hearing. There was pretty damning evidence given. Plenty of Reps asking questions clearly supported Comey and said so openly.

And pilebuck. No bullshit. Those were the words spoken and a big part of the rest of the 2 hours was asking questions about what evidence there is to support that Comey opinion.

It's actually interesting . Check a replay on youtube.

[Sam Odom]

So did Russia get Obama elected twice?

No... Radical Muslims did ... Obama was/is an ISIS sympathizer

[Sam Odom]

This was a factual hearing. There was pretty damning evidence given.

Give one example of Trump's connection to Russian's interference



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[Sam Odom]

Opti heard what he wanted to hear...

[pilebuck13]

Exactly Sammy. option give the damaging evidence. His memos that he didn't bring? That he leaked to the New York Times after he was fired lol the fact he asked allegedly for comey to let the Flynn thing go? Please explain I watched the whole thing

[chico2663]

Give one example of Trump's connection to Russian's interference



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It wasn't trump that did the deed. It was flynn and trump tried to block it. Trump is so naive that he could get himself in trouble.

[chico2663]

I get the feeling that both you guys, and some others posting with the strongest opinions here, didn't even listen to the Comey testimony


This was a factual hearing. There was pretty damning evidence given. Plenty of Reps asking questions clearly supported Comey and said so openly.

And pilebuck. No bullshit. Those were the words spoken and a big part of the rest of the 2 hours was asking questions about what evidence there is to support that Comey opinion.

It's actually interesting . Check a replay on youtube.

I taped it very interesting

[d2bets]

Give one example of Trump's connection to Russian's interference



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That's TBD. We'll all have to accept the ultimate findings of Mueller's investigation.