The fix is in boys - NBA wants Lakers in the finals.

pavyracer · 05-26-09, 09:20 PM

Wow! Bynum tomahawk chopped the Birdman and didn't get ejected and Kobe tripped on Jones leg and they call it a flagrant 1. If this doesn't motivate Nuggets next game I don't know what would.

flyingillini · 05-26-09, 09:21 PM

What is the line that the Birdman is doing yayo tonight? I would say -275.

AgainstAllOdds · 05-26-09, 09:22 PM

Pavy there was no foul called on the tripping play and the league gave not only a flagerant 1, but with it a banning because its the third time. All while reducing Bynums foul.

All after the game ended lol.

That is shady as hell imo.

pavyracer · 05-26-09, 09:24 PM

This is absurd. I thought they would upgrade Bynum's foul because it was horrific. Kobe tripped on the leg of Jones. How can this be a flagrant 1? It's not like he chased him from behind and soccer tackle him.

big joe 1212 · 05-26-09, 09:26 PM

horseshit

yisman · 05-26-09, 09:29 PM

Dumb thread. The Jones foul was much much worse than the Bynum foul. Bynum was going for the ball. Jones deliberately tripped Bryant.

pavyracer · 05-26-09, 09:35 PM

How can you deliberately trip someone? The floor was moist from sweat and his shoe slid on the floor and Kobe's leg happened to be in the way. I have seen this play happen 100 times in pick up games. Kobe's theatrics made it worse than it looked. It was a silly accident that happens all the time.

When Birdman got the pass while cutting Bynum went with full force and smashed Birdman's hands and not the ball as hard as he could. He also whacked his headband and poked him in the eye. They heard the smack all the way to LA. I'm surprised Birdman didn't break his wrists from that vicious two handed hit.

dwaechte · 05-26-09, 09:35 PM

Come on AAO. First off, whether it would be a guys first flagrant or his 3rd should not factor into the decision. Secondly, it was a ****ing bullshit play by Jones and he deserves whatever punishment he gets. I have no patience for *********** like that who play dirty.

AgainstAllOdds · 05-26-09, 09:39 PM

There have been 10000000x worse fouls that have not been called or not have been called Flag 1's. The point of the league to go ahead and increase it is bullshit. Then reduce Bynums??? Thats BS. I dont buy they were "just trying to do the right thing". No one wants to see Magic vs. Nuggets in the finals. They want to see Kobe vs. Lebron. NBA knows this.

yisman · 05-26-09, 09:40 PM

Originally posted by pavyracer

How can you deliberately trip someone? The floor was moist from sweat and his shoe slid on the floor and Kobe's leg happened to be in the way. I have seen this play happened 100 times in pick up games. Kobe's theatrics made it worse than it looked. It was a silly accident that happens all the time.

When Birdman got the pass while cutting Bynum when with full force and smashed Birdman's hands and not the ball as hard as he could. He also whacked his headband and poked him in the eye. They heard the smack all the way to LA. I'm surprised Birdman didn't break his wrists from that vicious two handed hit.

all I can say is that you're extremely biased if you watched the game and that's your conclusion.
If the trip was an accident, then Bynum hitting Andersen was an accident too.

C'mon.

yisman · 05-26-09, 09:42 PM

Originally posted by AgainstAllOdds

There have been 10000000x worse fouls that have not been called or not have been called Flag 1's.

False. It doesn't get much dirtier than that play.

No one wants to see Magic vs. Nuggets in the finals. They want to see Kobe vs. Lebron. NBA knows this.

Right, the NBA rigs it so that popular teams get there. That's why the Spurs and Pistons kept making the finals, right? Everyone wanted to watch their brand of basketball.

pat venditto · 05-26-09, 09:47 PM

Jones isn't a major factor. AAO this thread is terrible. You dumb FCK.

AgainstAllOdds · 05-26-09, 09:57 PM

Pat you are a fuking retard. Anytime you lose a starting guard, its not a good thing.

diogee · 05-26-09, 10:03 PM

Originally posted by pat venditto

Jones isn't a major factor. AAO this thread is terrible. You dumb FCK.

Jones doesn't play a ton but brings defensive intensity...that is the reason he is out there.

Figured this would happen.

BobHarvey · 05-26-09, 10:03 PM

Originally posted by dwaechte

Come on AAO. First off, whether it would be a guys first flagrant or his 3rd should not factor into the decision. Secondly, it was a ****ing bullshit play by Jones and he deserves whatever punishment he gets. I have no patience for *********** like that who play dirty.

Agreed. Please don't give me excuses like "wet floor" or it was in the "heat of the moment". BS. Jones is developing a reputation for being a dirty player. There's nothing classy about his act. He just lends more credence to the "Thuggets" brand.

pavyracer · 05-26-09, 10:15 PM

All I know is Kobe has 6 technicals...excuse me 5 after NBA wrote off one...and he is the dirtiest player in this series. If I saw him in the middle of the street being attacked by rabid dogs I would call for more dogs.

yisman · 05-26-09, 10:18 PM

pavy, that's because you are extremely biased and cannot view anything about the NBA objectively.

yisman · 05-26-09, 10:27 PM

just what we needed, another stupid thread about how the league is fixed. Good job, pavy.

Stop watching and betting on the NBA if you think it's fixed.

frostno98 · 05-26-09, 11:01 PM

I believe he has only 3, if you read the above article it has to exceed 3 flagrant 1 to be a automatic suspension.

Fiasco · 05-26-09, 11:05 PM

That play was obviously deliberate...

he deserves a 1 game suspension for it

colt29 · 05-26-09, 11:30 PM

Originally posted by pavyracer

This is absurd. I thought they would upgrade Bynum's foul because it was horrific. Kobe tripped on the leg of Jones. How can this be a flagrant 1? It's not like he chased him from behind and soccer tackle him.

dumbest comment ive heard. You trip with your leg stuck out. 51 freethrows by Nuggets? thats a hell of a conspiracy moron

yisman · 05-26-09, 11:32 PM

Originally posted by pavyracer

How can you deliberately trip someone?

Dunno, pavy. It's obviously impossible to trip someone on purpose. Like you said, how is it possible to deliberately trip someone???

Irish Jet · 05-26-09, 11:34 PM

Have you actually seen any of the games?

Emmett Brown · 05-26-09, 11:49 PM

They have been fixing games for the Lakers for the last 10 years.

yisman · 05-26-09, 11:57 PM

pavy, if you want, I can come to the bash and show you how to trip someone.

jsmithj88 · 05-27-09, 01:13 AM

Originally posted by pavyracer

How can you deliberately trip someone? The floor was moist from sweat and his shoe slid on the floor and Kobe's leg happened to be in the way. I have seen this play happen 100 times in pick up games. Kobe's theatrics made it worse than it looked. It was a silly accident that happens all the time.

When Birdman got the pass while cutting Bynum went with full force and smashed Birdman's hands and not the ball as hard as he could. He also whacked his headband and poked him in the eye. They heard the smack all the way to LA. I'm surprised Birdman didn't break his wrists from that vicious two handed hit.

wow, this is by far the dumbest statement i have seen in a long time
jones, stuck his foot out when kobe was running past him
kobe didnt even have the ball
do u kno how dangerous that is for a player?
if u tripped yao ming like that, it could end his season or his career if he fell the wrong way

that foul by bynum was a plain old hard foul.
i couldnt even believe it was called a flagrant.
maybe next time he shud "accidently trip" him

xxdjstriderxx · 05-27-09, 01:41 AM

lakers games are fixed.

X-Rated · 05-27-09, 03:58 AM

Why dont you post up a clip of the incident for everyone here to see. No offense, but clearly you already saw that Jones purposely tripped Kobe and still you make that comment...I think you are childish. Jones is what you call a cheater and a straight up big loser.

Originally posted by pavyracer

How can you deliberately trip someone? The floor was moist from sweat and his shoe slid on the floor and Kobe's leg happened to be in the way. I have seen this play happen 100 times in pick up games. Kobe's theatrics made it worse than it looked. It was a silly accident that happens all the time.

When Birdman got the pass while cutting Bynum went with full force and smashed Birdman's hands and not the ball as hard as he could. He also whacked his headband and poked him in the eye. They heard the smack all the way to LA. I'm surprised Birdman didn't break his wrists from that vicious two handed hit.

Irish Jet · 05-27-09, 04:04 AM

Originally posted by pavyracer

How can you deliberately trip someone?

theplagy · 05-27-09, 06:41 AM

Originally posted by dwaechte

Come on AAO. First off, whether it would be a guys first flagrant or his 3rd should not factor into the decision. Secondly, it was a ****ing bullshit play by Jones and he deserves whatever punishment he gets. I have no patience for *********** like that who play dirty.

And Kobe is as clean as it gets. lol

NBA Hero · 05-27-09, 10:29 AM

the prob is stu hasnt been consistent on all trips and hard foul.

bynum keeps on giving a hard foul without going after the ball cause he reacts but doesnt anticipate.

funny how we are waiting for him since last season and he is a nonfactor.

BrandonLaz · 05-27-09, 10:37 AM

Originally posted by NBA Hero

the prob is stu hasnt been consistent on all trips and hard foul.

bynum keeps on giving a hard foul without going after the ball cause he reacts but doesnt anticipate.

funny how we are waiting for him since last season and he is a nonfactor.

The injury is hurting his stamina though if you remember at the start of this season he was playing like a stud. It is hard for a young kid who has never recovered from injuries before to be able to jump right back in the flow of things. Last injury he had a whole offseason to get conditioned again this time he did not have that luxury. Bynum tried for the ball on the hit and got almost all ball part of the hand came across the face. I think it was malicious intent, but he got mostly ball so I can understand the league overturning the play as during the game Van Gundy while announcing predicted both to happen. If anybody calls out refs in this league it is Van Gundy he criticizied the no call on the the flagrant 1 on the trip call by Jones and the Flagrant call on the Bynum play he was very cirtical of as well. Van Gundy hates the way refs call games and I listen to him more than every announcer in the league as he doesn't play favorites. He hates when Kobe, Lebron, Melo, etc. get the weak foul calls during games to send them to the line just due to them being popular players. If Van Gundy said Bynum wasn't a tech and that the trip by Jones was then I am sticking with the guy who once was fined 100k by the league for his remarks about the refs.

lakerboy · 05-27-09, 10:38 AM

dont worry kobe already gave jones the staredown and watch tonite he is going to light up the nugggets