Trump Tax Plan

[Snowball]

d2 who has proven he couldn't pass economics 101

I'm pretty sure d2 would have no problem passing Economics 101.

The essential fact is, Economics 101 doesn't really teach the truth of how
the relationship between banks and governments and corporations work.

The nature of that relationship is understood by less than 1% of the population,
and the moneymasters have made sure it stays that way.

They make sure the public argues over non-essential details such
as which party of their making holds office, when nothing of any importance
changes.
When the only restaurants open are McDonalds or Burger King,
you're going to get clogged arteries and have a heart attack.

[brooks85]

I'm pretty sure d2 would have no problem passing Economics 101.

But the truth is, Economics 101 doesn't really teach the truth of how
the relationship between banks and governments and corporations work.

The nature of that relationship is understood by less than 1% of the population,
and the moneymasters have made sure it stays that way.

They make sure the public argues over non-essential details such
as which party of their making holds office, when nothing of any importance
changes. When the only restaurants open are McDonalds or Burger King,
you're going to get clogged arteries and have a heart attack.
It's just a matter of time.

then you're a sucker


we are not talking about that, focus.


you'll grow up some day and move past the moneymasters thing, I went through the same phase. You haven't even bothered to research what they told you. Notice how I didn't put a question mark on that last sentence. There is a reason.

[DABOOK]

Certain Low-Income Taxpayers Take a Hit
Every taxpayer gets to claim on their tax return the greater of 1. certain "itemized deductions," -- think charitable contributions, mortgage interest, real estate taxes, etc... or 2. a "standard deduction." The standard deduction currently sits at $12,600 (if married, half that if single). In addition, each taxpayer may claim a $4,050 personal exemption for themselves, their spouse, and any dependents.
President Trump's proposal would eliminate all itemized deductions other than mortgage interest and charitable contributions. This is a deviation from the proposal published during his campaign, which would have capped itemized deductions at $200,000 (if married, $100,000 if single). It is also a political landmine, as repealing deductions for state and local income taxes and real estate taxes is sure to enrage the governors of high income tax states (I'm looking at you, California, NY and NJ) and the powerful real estate lobby, respectively.
In addition, the plan would increase the standard deduction from $12,600 to $24,000 ($12,000 if single), and eliminate personal exemptions.
So if you're scoring at home, a family of five that currently claims the standard deduction will actually lose deductions under the Trump plan. Under current law, they would be entitled to a $12,600 standard deduction and $20,250 of personal exemptions, for a total tax benefit of $32,850. Under this latest proposal, that would be replaced with a $24,000 standard deduction and no personal exemptions. That's going to be a tough sell.


How the fuq are you going to repeal the estate tax for top 1% and minimum tax for rich and even think about raising 1 dollar on the middle class ? This wont happen. Dead on arrival. I am getting tired of all this winning.

[Snowball]

then you're a sucker


we are not talking about that, focus.


you'll grow up some day and move past the moneymasters thing, I went through the same phase. You haven't even bothered to research what they told you. Notice how I didn't put a question mark on that last sentence. There is a reason.

You have no idea what I'm talking about or what I'm thinking, are you a mind-reader now ?

I've never seen you post anything more than repetitive pro-Republican talking points.

You need to expand your own understanding. Your forefathers fought against this because
they understood the perils, but you do not.

[brooks85]

You have no idea what I'm talking about or what I'm thinking, are you a mind-reader now ?

I've never seen you post anything more than repetitive pro-Republican talking points.

You need to expand your own understanding. Your forefathers fought against this because
they understood the perils, but you do not.

do you think this is an intelligent response?


you just got proven wrong and you reply with this? no, not good.


again, we were not talking about relationships to banks and governments in the context you're talking about so you're wrong.



also, it's about time you grow up and move on from the moneymasters thing. A lot of fake stuff in there.

[Snowball]

again, we were not talking about relationships to banks and governments in the context you're talking about

and that's why it doesn't matter.
you're arguing over whether ketchup or mustard is on the shit sandwich.

[boneheaded1]

What a shock, it's the same butt hurts that claimed Hillary would win in a landslide and that Obama was great are against the tax cut.

The truth is when you don't actually pay any taxes it is easy to be against a tax cut.

The butt hurts think that cutting taxes on a married couple earning $25k from $4k in taxes to $0 favors the rich. They are actually in favor of higher taxes and will argue that tax cuts do not spur the economy. They will ask you please do not mention that the Reagan tax cuts pulled us out of a depression and led to the greatest economic expansion in history.

It reminds me of something Reagan said regarding taxes. "Democrats always aim for the rich but hit the poor".

You needed a correction here. Reagan's tax cuts are not what pulled us out of the recession. It was his massive military defense contractor spending that did. And you failed to mention that he raised taxes more than a couple times.

You see, that's where partisan shit gets in the way. Can't just honestly talk about shit without some dumbass filter on (and that is for both sides of the partisan aisle).

[brooks85]

what shit sandwich?


hillary lost, pay attention and keep up

[boneheaded1]

[QUOTE=JIBBBY;26930075]Welfare and freebies to the lazy and poor is what is putting this Country in debt..

We need more jobs, better schooling, less immigrants, but most of all we need to stop rewarding poor ghetto people whom have more and more babies to get more free government money.. Each additional baby means more free housing space and a $200 increase in welfare per month benefits.. There should be a penalty for having babies when on welfare..

This Welfare Nation needs to stop!!




Ever wonder why mostly all of the poor and welfare recipients always like to vote Democratic? This is why




So you are saying either: the answer is "no I don't and I don't care. Or "I googled it and didn't like the answer so I found this shit and posted it instead."

[boneheaded1]

He should be. Would you rather have fake news?

No. I would be prefer he become a free thinker. Critical thinking isn't hard. There are many graphs on how to help achieve it. A lot of people here on both sides of the argument should look at one.

[Snowball]

what shit sandwich?


hillary lost, pay attention and keep up

Do you understand exactly who profits from either of these crappy parties ?

The same tiny group.
Today Trumpenstein opens up massive swaths of formerly protected seas
to oil drilling. Cui bono ? Big Oil executives and bankers, nobody else.
The stupid "jobs" routine is nothing but a joke. The hoi polloi are satisfied
with being wage slaves, while their masters suck in billions from their labor.

Then they pay the bills for the goods they produce - and all the cream profit
goes to the fat cats who do nothing but stay in their positions of access and control.
Oil is an antiquated 19th century technology that is ruining the earth.
All utilities should be owned by the public, prices would be 10% of what they are now.
You don't understand how usury and inflation have crippled 99.9% of the public.

While you're complaining about welfare for moms, the same state governments who
"borrow" billions from the banks at interest tax you to pay those banks their interest,
to the tune of when a bond is floated, the final paid price is 2x higher, all those profits
go to the banks for something that cost them nothing at all to create.

The power they have is unconstitutional and we used to have presidents who fought
against private financial tyranny. When the bank "loans", say 100 million to a government,
that government which formerly had the power to create the currency itself, the sovereign
power is now in the hands of foreign banks. They don't loan deposits, they actually create
new money every single time the borrowing on the ledger is drawn up. They cannot lose.
Every damn municipality can declare bankruptcy and not pay, and the banks would lose
nothing because creating money costs them nothing at all in the Federal Reserve system.

The whole American governments debts are FAKE and can be eliminated with the stoke of a pen.
This stuff is way over your head - keep eating your shit sandwich with ketchup.
The problem is that nincompoops like you have forced all of us to suffer under such a moronic
system of enslavement through the democracy scam.

[brooks85]

Do you understand exactly who profits from either of these crappy parties ?

The same tiny group.
Today Trumpenstein opens up massive swaths of formerly protected seas
to oil drilling. Cui bono ? Big Oil executives and bankers, nobody else.
The stupid "jobs" routine is nothing but a joke. The hoi polloi are satisfied
with being wage slaves, while their masters suck in billions from their labor.

Then they pay the bills for the goods they produce - and all the cream profit
goes to the fat cats who do nothing but stay in their positions of access and control.
Oil is an antiquated 19th century technology that is ruining the earth.
All utilities should be owned by the public, prices would be 10% of what they are now.
You don't understand how usury and inflation have crippled 99.9% of the public.

While you're complaining about welfare for moms, the same state governments who
"borrow" billions from the banks at interest tax you to pay those banks their interest,
to the tune of when a bond is floated, the final paid price is 2x higher, all those profits
go to the banks for something that cost them nothing at all to create.

The power they have is unconstitutional and we used to have presidents who fought
against private financial tyranny. When the bank "loans", say 100 million to a government,
that government which formerly had the power to create the currency itself, the sovereign
power is now in the hands of foreign banks. They don't loan deposits, they actually create
new money every single time the borrowing on the ledger is drawn up. They cannot lose.
Every damn municipality can declare bankruptcy and not pay, and the banks would lose
nothing because creating money costs them nothing at all in the Federal Reserve system.

The whole American governments debts are FAKE and can be eliminated with the stoke of a pen.
This stuff is way over your head - keep eating your shit sandwich with ketchup.
The problem is that nincompoops like you have forced all of us to suffer under such a moronic
system of enslavement through the democracy scam.

wrong

[Thor4140]

You have little dick syndrome. Countries spit on us ? Where do you get this mindless drivel? You live in an alternate reality. Please put the Fox News down. Too much Hannity for you .Pick up a book . Find any independent news source on our stance around the world. We spend more ca$h on military than the next 12 nations combined. The former president killed more terrorist than bush 1 , Clinton, and W combined. Look up Obama drone war. Plus he got Binladen.
I get it. He was black and for someone as uneducated as you that means countries spit on us. The truth is we are the most powerful , richest , greatest country on Earth. When shite goes down everyone looks to us to fix it. They Always have and always will.
Your boy Trump is dropping the ball . He had an opportunity here and it is going horribly. Lowest approval rating in the modern era . Presidents that do what they say don't get that low of a rating.
. Look up what he did with an executive order that added additional cost for FHA loans.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/01/21/what-does-trumps-first-executive-order-mean-your-mortgage/96881572/

Look at his stance on for profit prisons.He received campaign contributions from them and he quickly tore up a resolution to phase them out. The only thing worse than making a profit from people with health problems is making a profit from incarcerating people. If you rehab them properly and they don't come back you hurt your bottom line.

https://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2017/02/24/trump-administration-rewards-private-prison-campaign-donors-government-contracts

I could go on and on.
Look into how much these tax breaks will help you personally.
He is just another ( R) . He is here to help his bottom line. It is a money grab. He conned a lot of poor people into voting for him. Just like he conned contractors into building AC then paid them 30 cents on a dollar. Filling the swamp with Gold Sachs Wall st executives. Think about this.
Do Wall Street executives want :
workers pay to go up ?
want workers to have good benefits ?
No and no. They want robots or they send jobs over seas to improve the bottom line and to get stocks to go up.
Your boy Trump is banging you in the ass and you are loving it.

Dabook lol this asshole once tried to say he was an independent. He is the definition of a Fox News pigeon.

[Thor4140]

Excellent article in Forbes about Trump's so-called "tax plan."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/anthony.../#445ed11838da

Forbes is liberal so im not gonna read that if u don't mind D2. This way i can stay misinformed and borderline retarded

[brooks85]

^lol case closed on my point about d2 and the article.


thor is the original liberal idiot on this forum as I hilariously proved.

[Auto Donk]

pretty much any f'n U.S. tax plan results, utlimately, in this:

[DwightShrute]

Forbes is liberal so im not gonna read that if u don't mind D2. This way i can stay misinformed and borderline retarded

borderline?

[Thor4140]

Do you understand exactly who profits from either of these crappy parties ?

The same tiny group.
Today Trumpenstein opens up massive swaths of formerly protected seas
to oil drilling. Cui bono ? Big Oil executives and bankers, nobody else.
The stupid "jobs" routine is nothing but a joke. The hoi polloi are satisfied
with being wage slaves, while their masters suck in billions from their labor.

Then they pay the bills for the goods they produce - and all the cream profit
goes to the fat cats who do nothing but stay in their positions of access and control.
Oil is an antiquated 19th century technology that is ruining the earth.
All utilities should be owned by the public, prices would be 10% of what they are now.
You don't understand how usury and inflation have crippled 99.9% of the public.

While you're complaining about welfare for moms, the same state governments who
"borrow" billions from the banks at interest tax you to pay those banks their interest,
to the tune of when a bond is floated, the final paid price is 2x higher, all those profits
go to the banks for something that cost them nothing at all to create.

The power they have is unconstitutional and we used to have presidents who fought
against private financial tyranny. When the bank "loans", say 100 million to a government,
that government which formerly had the power to create the currency itself, the sovereign
power is now in the hands of foreign banks. They don't loan deposits, they actually create
new money every single time the borrowing on the ledger is drawn up. They cannot lose.
Every damn municipality can declare bankruptcy and not pay, and the banks would lose
nothing because creating money costs them nothing at all in the Federal Reserve system.

The whole American governments debts are FAKE and can be eliminated with the stoke of a pen.
This stuff is way over your head - keep eating your shit sandwich with ketchup.
The problem is that nincompoops like you have forced all of us to suffer under such a moronic
system of enslavement through the democracy scam.

That basically sums it up and these gullible, naive, nitwits who can't think beyond talking points from con men trying to mislead them, will always be the number one problem.

[brooks85]

^lol thor talking about conmen when he supported...




liberals are hilarious

[DwightShrute]

That basically sums it up and these gullible, naive, nitwits who can't think beyond talking points from con men trying to mislead them, will always be the number one problem.

[Snowball]

That basically sums it up and these gullible, naive, nitwits who can't think beyond talking points from con men trying to mislead them, will always be the number one problem.

Yes, this is why the conspiracy to overthrow the church and monarchies, replacing
them with democracy was so pivotal in world history, because through war and manipulation
of paper currencies, they have risen to control the world. They are the eye in the pyramid.
Whether by World War 3, or by peaceful assimilation, the point is near arrival for complete
and permanent dominion over the fate of man for these exclusive cabalists.

[khicks26]

Do you understand exactly who profits from either of these crappy parties ?

The same tiny group.
Today Trumpenstein opens up massive swaths of formerly protected seas
to oil drilling. Cui bono ? Big Oil executives and bankers, nobody else.
The stupid "jobs" routine is nothing but a joke. The hoi polloi are satisfied
with being wage slaves, while their masters suck in billions from their labor.

Then they pay the bills for the goods they produce - and all the cream profit
goes to the fat cats who do nothing but stay in their positions of access and control.
Oil is an antiquated 19th century technology that is ruining the earth.
All utilities should be owned by the public, prices would be 10% of what they are now.
You don't understand how usury and inflation have crippled 99.9% of the public.

While you're complaining about welfare for moms, the same state governments who
"borrow" billions from the banks at interest tax you to pay those banks their interest,
to the tune of when a bond is floated, the final paid price is 2x higher, all those profits
go to the banks for something that cost them nothing at all to create.

The power they have is unconstitutional and we used to have presidents who fought
against private financial tyranny. When the bank "loans", say 100 million to a government,
that government which formerly had the power to create the currency itself, the sovereign
power is now in the hands of foreign banks. They don't loan deposits, they actually create
new money every single time the borrowing on the ledger is drawn up. They cannot lose.
Every damn municipality can declare bankruptcy and not pay, and the banks would lose
nothing because creating money costs them nothing at all in the Federal Reserve system.

The whole American governments debts are FAKE and can be eliminated with the stoke of a pen.
This stuff is way over your head - keep eating your shit sandwich with ketchup.
The problem is that nincompoops like you have forced all of us to suffer under such a moronic
system of enslavement through the democracy scam.

Great post, all DUMB as TRUMP Brooks could say is WRONG.

The guy is Thick as a Brick & beyond reach.

Only thing is, true Democracy is not a scam. Its just hard to maintain without a vigilant public.

[brooks85]

and I was right too lol which is why snowball won't dare address it. He knows what would come next.

[khicks26]

False Messiah anyone?

[khicks26]

and I was right too lol which is why snowball won't dare address it. He knows what would come next.

Just saying wrong is lazy & stupid. Just like Trump.

[brooks85]

False Messiah anyone?

[khicks26]

That's funny. I never voted for the guy.

You voted for Trump.

[DwightShrute]

Just saying wrong is lazy & stupid. Just like Trump.

calling a billionaire and the most powerful man in the world lazy and stupid makes you look _______! (too many words that fit and I couldn't decide)

Also, he is 70 and has tons more energy that you do. He a machine. Your name calling of him is meaningless but I am sure Cenk and horse face would be proud. Hahahaha.

[khicks26]

calling a billionaire and the most powerful man in the world lazy and stupid makes you look _______! (too many words that fit and I couldn't decide)

Also, he is 70 and has tons more energy that you do. He a machine. Your name calling of him is meaningless but I am sure Cenk and horse face would be proud. Hahahaha.

BLAH BLAH BLAH. wake up.

[khicks26]

You're not looking at the big picture. If a company loses money for 3 years, then is profitable their 4th, they had little or no net income over that 4 year period, so they pay little or no tax when they're profitable.

Having lower corporate taxes has nothing to do with the MIC.

GE part of the MIC has been in business decades.

[khicks26]

that is not where are budget is screwing us, you only need to look at the liberal agenda to see where our spending is a problem

lol this is why you are just good for comedy. You're clearly not intelligent enough or honest enough to have a real discussion.

As I have proven over and over, you exist in wonderland where you form your own reality around things you ONLY agree with. You even admitted that a few weeks ago when you said you only pay attention to certain history. Yeah, only history YOU agree with which is why you are so incredibly ignorant on border walls and the history of Islam.




lol

Dude seriously, Get Some Help.

[guitarjosh]

GE part of the MIC has been in business decades.

And?

[DABOOK]

If you like numbers here is Another very informative article.
Didnt the (R)'s try this before ?
Most historians look back at those policies as " When We Stopped Balancing The Checkbook ."

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/27/us/politics/individual-business-tax-wealth.html?smprod=nytcore-ipad&smid=nytcore-ipad-share&_r=0

[DwightShrute]

[Snowball]

" When We Stopped Balancing The Checkbook ."

"balancing the checkbook" is a meaningless charade, because as I explained earlier
there is not even supposed to be a damn checkbook ! When Lincoln wanted to raise
money for his war against the secessionists, he didn't go to the Rothschilds and say,
"print me some your skrill, and I will force the American people to recognize it as legal tender,
with your skrill bank as a monopoly of credit from sea to shining sea". No, he issued greenbacks
which were issued by the Federal government itself. John F Kennedy did the same.
I am not a Lincoln fan, but he got this right, by accident, because the people back then knew
what the hell money really was and who should issue it... THE PEOPLE, not a tiny group of banking families.