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  • dlowilly
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    • 11-09-16
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    #176
    Originally posted by jtoler
    Are you one of them? Do you know any? Probably neither, so youre making uninsightful assumptions.
    Not one of them (lol), but have known plenty from my former accounting and tax work. It's not like you need to spy on them or hire an investigator, they broadcast, brag, and compare their government checks and how they got them.
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    • JIBBBY
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      • 12-10-09
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      #177
      Originally posted by Thor4140
      As long as a guy is rich these assholes couldn't care less where the money has come from. They think they are gonna become them. Again i will say it, how the fuk did certain rich people get people who don't have piss fight for them to have more. They must laugh their asses off when they are all together.
      I think most of our recent past presidents just tried to keep the Country running, not caring about the National Debt and just tried to leave office as a President that didn't royally fock things up.. So here we are today...

      Now we have a President in Trump that wants to make great change in America and fix things but he's getting blocked by every butt hurt Democrat in the Senate and House because of a party agenda and job security..

      When our National debt becomes a real problem like our current healthcare system is nothing will change..
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      • DABOOK
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        #178
        Originally posted by pilebuck13
        If I was rich as them I would want it all as well fuk the little guy i would be as greedy as shit
        The world would be a better place without people like you.
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        • DABOOK
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          #179
          Originally posted by jtoler
          Only an idiot would think the women you idiots are speaking of go through the trouble of pregnancy, having a baby, and raising a child for a few extra bucks. Typical uninsightful, racist, pubby mindless jibberish.
          This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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          • Thor4140
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            • 02-09-08
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            #180
            Originally posted by JIBBBY
            I think most of our recent past presidents just tried to keep the Country running, not caring about the National Debt and just tried to leave office as a President that didn't royally fock things up.. So here we are today...

            Now we have a President in Trump that wants to make great change in America and fix things but he's getting blocked by every butt hurt Democrat in the Senate and House because of a party agenda and job security..

            When our National debt becomes a real problem like our current healthcare system is nothing will change..
            Jibby every fukin thing he wanted to fix a lobbyist has talked him out of. Every regulation he is lifting only benefits a select few and sure as hell not you. Am i being punked here? U can't possibly be this naive.
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            • JIBBBY
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              • 12-10-09
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              #181
              Besides getting people off Welfare we also need to restructure the IRS system in America to work more effectively like is should to stop Nationwide tax fraud and evasion... That alone would work wonders for our budget and more tax revenue.... There is so much tax fraud going on these days it's not even funny..

              IRS rebuilding not in the plans though ....
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              • Thor4140
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                #182
                Originally posted by JIBBBY
                Besides getting people off Welfare we also need to restructure the IRS system in America to work more effectively like is should to stop Nationwide tax fraud and evasion... That alone would work wonders for our budget and more tax revenue.... There is so much tax fraud going on these days it's not even funny..

                IRS rebuilding not in the plans though ....
                Jibby how about being the first republican to announce that we need to also stop corporate welfare. Then we can start having an honest debate. I see all your buddies always dodge the question when i ask it so maybe u can have some balls and step forward. This attacking the poor all of the time is nauseating when in fact u guys will not accept the fact that there are rich people getting handouts too.
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                • khicks26
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                  #183
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                  • Snowball
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                    • 11-15-09
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                    #184
                    watching old westerns is like another planet now, might as well call them sci-fi.
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                    • JIBBBY
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                      • 12-10-09
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                      #185
                      Originally posted by Thor4140
                      Jibby how about being the first republican to announce that we need to also stop corporate welfare. Then we can start having an honest debate. I see all your buddies always dodge the question when i ask it so maybe u can have some balls and step forward. This attacking the poor all of the time is nauseating when in fact u guys will not accept the fact that there are rich people getting handouts too.
                      If you are poor and really can't find work but are trying and or are disable those are the ones that should qualify for welfare, not the millions that are just lazy, drugged out, babied out, and want to stay on welfare.. We've become a welfare Nation...

                      As far as corporate greed and corruption, which Hillary was geared up to be partners with needs to stop.. Medical and pharmaceutical is corrupt and full of greed also and that's the biggest reason healthcare in America has gone down the toilet..

                      Creating tax cuts for big business will only help create more jobs and more big business in America.. That in turn will produce a booming economy and MORE tax revenue... Give to get thinking when giving the rich tax cuts..
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                      • chico2663
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                        #186
                        Originally posted by Ralphie Halves
                        Yeah, take Mark Zuckerberg. He was a great guy in college, and now that he's rich, his soul was automatically replaced by satan. Because I saw a lot of movies growing up, and that's what they told me rich people are like. I'm super envious and pretty lazy, but saying that out loud might make me look weak, so I'll just shit on people that have more talent and work harder than me. Please don't prove my point wrong with numbers, I can't handle it. I'd rather make you think I can crawl inside total strangers' heads and see their real motivations.
                        How many people really know rich people. I have 20 multi millionaires that are related to mother or are friends. Not 401k money but tangent property or cash. The new taxes are taking away carried interest which will hurt builders. They are taking away the tax deduction for your 401k or in my instance sep. They are also taking away mortgage interest.
                        Last edited by chico2663; 04-28-17, 12:23 AM.
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                        • Ralphie Halves
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                          #187
                          Originally posted by chico2663
                          How many people really know rich people.
                          None of us, yet some of SBR sure does pretend to. And there's rich, like the friends you were talking about, and the holy shit rich, like the Forbes 400 and such. Sounds like you had quite the run there, nice job.

                          And even if they initially inherited it, taking that and tripling it over time and making something great out of it is really tough to do and should be commended, not frowned upon. Wasn't his fault he inherited it. He could have gone the other way and Louis the XV'ed it all away. Some do.

                          Every time one of these types of threads comes up, you have two sides -- people who have at least taken one business course in their lives and the people who whine and cry about people who have money, then put themselves on this moral pedestal. And then you have Snowball, who I've liked and agreed with for a long time and still do, but has watched too many episodes of Mr Robot and gone off the deep end on this one.
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                          • chico2663
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                            #188
                            Originally posted by Ralphie Halves
                            None of us, yet some of SBR sure does pretend to. And there's rich, like the friends you were talking about, and the holy shit rich, like the Forbes 400 and such. Sounds like you had quite the run there, nice job.

                            And even if they initially inherited it, taking that and tripling it over time and making something great out of it is really tough to do and should be commended, not frowned upon. Wasn't his fault he inherited it. He could have gone the other way and Louis the XV'ed it all away. Some do.

                            Every time one of these types of threads comes up, you have two sides -- people who have at least taken one business course in their lives and the people who whine and cry about people who have money, then put themselves on this moral pedestal. And then you have Snowball, who I've liked and agreed with for a long time and still do, but has watched too many episodes of Mr Robot and gone off the deep end on this one.
                            i was paying half of my money in taxes. I was self employed for my job I was always over 60,000 miles so my leads which were 400 a month,my sep money and mortgage interest I couldn't take off because of A.M.T.
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                            • chico2663
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                              #189
                              NIXON started a.m.t but penetrating carter killed the middle class by lowering the tax requirements
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                              • Ralphie Halves
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                                #190
                                Originally posted by chico2663
                                i was paying half of my money in taxes. I was self employed for my job I was always over 60,000 miles so my leads which were 400 a month,my sep money and mortgage interest I couldn't take off because of A.M.T.
                                Yeah, I know people that do over a million in revenue all on their own, but when it comes time to pay themselves, there's almost nothing left. I know people who own franchises (which sucks unless you have 10+ of them), who can barely pay their employees. Hoping this tax plan goes through without too much nonsense attached to it, and those burdens can come down a bit.
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                                • chico2663
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                                  #191
                                  Originally posted by Ralphie Halves
                                  Yeah, I know people that do over a million in revenue all on their own, but when it comes time to pay themselves, there's almost nothing left. I know people who own franchises (which sucks unless you have 10+ of them), who can barely pay their employees. Hoping this tax plan goes through without too much nonsense attached to it, and those burdens can come down a bit.
                                  same here bro.i think they should definitely help small business. It is so hard for rest. to make it.
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                                  • chico2663
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                                    #192
                                    they have put tax off til august
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                                    • guitarjosh
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                                      #193
                                      Originally posted by khicks26
                                      .

                                      I'm sure there are some that pay 30%. But then you have the ones that get refunds & make billions in profit.

                                      Do we really want that if their paying shit wages & use our tax dollars for a bigger & better police state.

                                      LOL OH never mind, we have that already. The MIC is killing us, we need to get rid of the economy based on war.
                                      You're not looking at the big picture. If a company loses money for 3 years, then is profitable their 4th, they had little or no net income over that 4 year period, so they pay little or no tax when they're profitable.

                                      Having lower corporate taxes has nothing to do with the MIC.
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                                      • TheMoneyShot
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                                        #194
                                        Originally posted by DABOOK
                                        The world would be a better place without people like you.
                                        Why are you such a headstrong lib?

                                        Trump didn't do anything to anyone. He's fixing your Dad's (Obama's) problems he left.

                                        What Obama did to the USA in 8 years... fukking remarkable. Made this great nation a pussified place where other countries SPIT ON US. Well guess what chum? That sh#$ is about to change and we're 100 days into it. Don't you worry pal... you have about 2,820 days left of Trump. Smile.
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                                        • brooks85
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                                          #195
                                          Originally posted by jtoler
                                          Only an idiot would think the women you idiots are speaking of go through the trouble of pregnancy, having a baby, and raising a child for a few extra bucks. Typical uninsightful, racist, pubby mindless jibberish.
                                          wow, one of the dumbest thoughts on the internet and a proven idiot named dabook quoted it. Case closed.


                                          there is a reason jtoler says stupid shit and runs away from it.

                                          "extra few bucks" lol naive moron
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                                          • brooks85
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                                            #196
                                            Originally posted by khicks26
                                            The budget is blown up, we spend a trillion a year on war & surveillance.

                                            What does Trump do? Cut tax's & spend more.

                                            If anyone puts up barriers its the fortune 500 companies. They don't want competition. That's why they buy the politicians.

                                            Tell me what is so left wing today.


                                            that is not where are budget is screwing us, you only need to look at the liberal agenda to see where our spending is a problem

                                            lol this is why you are just good for comedy. You're clearly not intelligent enough or honest enough to have a real discussion.

                                            As I have proven over and over, you exist in wonderland where you form your own reality around things you ONLY agree with. You even admitted that a few weeks ago when you said you only pay attention to certain history. Yeah, only history YOU agree with which is why you are so incredibly ignorant on border walls and the history of Islam.


                                            Originally posted by khicks26
                                            I can only lead you to water.

                                            I can't make you learn.
                                            lol
                                            Last edited by brooks85; 04-28-17, 06:42 AM.
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                                            • rkelly110
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                                              #197
                                              Originally posted by brooks85


                                              that is not where are budget is screwing us, you only need to look at the liberal agenda to see where our spending is a problem

                                              lol this is why you are just good for comedy. You're clearly not intelligent enough or honest enough to have a real discussion.

                                              As I have proven over and over, you exist in wonderland where you form your own reality around things you ONLY agree with. You even admitted that a few weeks ago when you said you only pay attention to certain history. Yeah, only history YOU agree with which is why you are so incredibly ignorant on border walls and the history of Islam.




                                              lol
                                              Holy fuk. Do you get paid by the keystroke? A whole lot of typing saying..............nothing!
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                                              • brooks85
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                                                #198
                                                Originally posted by rkelly110
                                                Holy fuk. Do you get paid by the keystroke? A whole lot of typing saying..............nothing!
                                                lol hilarious when you admit you can't read sentences that contain comma(s).



                                                and even better is you trying to come to the rescue of Alice when you coined the term "my truths."


                                                You both don't think or rationalize within the realm of reality. Post history proves that, and years of it too.
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                                                • rkelly110
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                                                  #199
                                                  A whole lot of corporate suck ups in here.

                                                  Boy, how soon you guys forget just 10 years back how they dumped millions on the doorstep of the govt.
                                                  Guess what, Bush cut their taxes.

                                                  Many with 30 plus years with their company who had homes and kids in college. Remember them losing their homes?
                                                  Remember them having to work 3 part time jobs just to make ends meet, that's if jobs were available?

                                                  Corps love recessions. Get rid of their high paid help and can pick and choose who they want and pay them squat.
                                                  How about when it came time to do Obama care? MFer's cut hours and amount of employees to AVOID paying
                                                  health care! Nice. Gotta love them corporations.

                                                  Production with fewer people is at all time highs and corporations are pulling in trillions in profit. I guarandamntee
                                                  they do not pay 35%. With the rate it is now, pulling in trillions and not expanding, what makes you think they will
                                                  expand with a 15% rate?

                                                  I got a bridge I can sell you.....cheap.
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                                                  • brooks85
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                                                    #200
                                                    ^
                                                    Originally posted by rkelly110
                                                    Holy fuk. Do you get paid by the keystroke? A whole lot of typing saying..............nothing!
                                                    lol talk about foot-in-mouth disease. Honestly, over the years the speed at which you accelerate your foot into your mouth is impressive.
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                                                    • DABOOK
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                                                      #201
                                                      Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                                      Why are you such a headstrong lib?

                                                      Trump didn't do anything to anyone. He's fixing your Dad's (Obama's) problems he left.

                                                      What Obama did to the USA in 8 years... fukking remarkable. Made this great nation a pussified place where other countries SPIT ON US. Well guess what chum? That sh#$ is about to change and we're 100 days into it. Don't you worry pal... you have about 2,820 days left of Trump. Smile.
                                                      You have little dick syndrome. Countries spit on us ? Where do you get this mindless drivel? You live in an alternate reality. Please put the Fox News down. Too much Hannity for you .Pick up a book . Find any independent news source on our stance around the world. We spend more ca$h on military than the next 12 nations combined. The former president killed more terrorist than bush 1 , Clinton, and W combined. Look up Obama drone war. Plus he got Binladen.
                                                      I get it. He was black and for someone as uneducated as you that means countries spit on us. The truth is we are the most powerful , richest , greatest country on Earth. When shite goes down everyone looks to us to fix it. They Always have and always will.
                                                      Your boy Trump is dropping the ball . He had an opportunity here and it is going horribly. Lowest approval rating in the modern era . Presidents that do what they say don't get that low of a rating.
                                                      . Look up what he did with an executive order that added additional cost for FHA loans.
                                                      President Donald Trump blocked an Obama administration policy Friday that would have reduced the cost of mortgages for millions of home buyers.


                                                      Look at his stance on for profit prisons.He received campaign contributions from them and he quickly tore up a resolution to phase them out. The only thing worse than making a profit from people with health problems is making a profit from incarcerating people. If you rehab them properly and they don't come back you hurt your bottom line.
                                                      Common Dreams has been providing breaking news & views for the progressive community since 1997. We are independent, non-profit, advertising-free and 100% reader supported. Our Mission: To inform. To inspire. To ignite change for the common good.

                                                      I could go on and on.
                                                      Look into how much these tax breaks will help you personally.
                                                      He is just another ( R) . He is here to help his bottom line. It is a money grab. He conned a lot of poor people into voting for him. Just like he conned contractors into building AC then paid them 30 cents on a dollar. Filling the swamp with Gold Sachs Wall st executives. Think about this.
                                                      Do Wall Street executives want :
                                                      workers pay to go up ?
                                                      want workers to have good benefits ?
                                                      No and no. They want robots or they send jobs over seas to improve the bottom line and to get stocks to go up.
                                                      Your boy Trump is banging you in the ass and you are loving it.
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                                                      • DwightShrute
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                                                        #202
                                                        ^^

                                                        Trump derangement Syndrome
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                                                        • d2bets
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                                                          #203
                                                          Excellent article in Forbes about Trump's so-called "tax plan."

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                                                          • brooks85
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                                                            #204
                                                            the fact d2 called that article "excellent" is just proof to his low IQ.

                                                            There is a reason you don't post much anymore and you proved it just now, and with the trump tweet lol
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                                                            • chico2663
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                                                              #205
                                                              FOR ALL THE GREAT HYPE OF THE TRUMPTARDS

                                                              The U.S. Commerce Department will release its advance estimate of GDP for the first quarter at 8:30 a.m. ET. Economists are expecting a 1.1% advance, down from the previous quarter's 2.1%, and still far from President Trump's campaign promise to pull the economy back above 3%. President Bush's term from 2001 to 2008 generated an average GDP annual growth rate of 2.1%, while President Obama's term logged a 1.5% expansion.
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                                                              • d2bets
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                                                                #206
                                                                No surprise that the simple-minded Trumptards would jerk off to a one pager with bullet points, with nothing further. Just like their leader, they can't comprehend anything more at once.
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                                                                • brooks85
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                                                                  #207
                                                                  ^another moron who doesn't understand GDP reports. Reminds me of when rkelly would post on the jobs reports lol




                                                                  hilarious, that was meant for chico but works just as well for d2 who has proven he couldn't pass economics 101
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                                                                  • d2bets
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                                                                    #208
                                                                    Originally posted by chico2663
                                                                    FOR ALL THE GREAT HYPE OF THE TRUMPTARDS

                                                                    The U.S. Commerce Department will release its advance estimate of GDP for the first quarter at 8:30 a.m. ET. Economists are expecting a 1.1% advance, down from the previous quarter's 2.1%, and still far from President Trump's campaign promise to pull the economy back above 3%. President Bush's term from 2001 to 2008 generated an average GDP annual growth rate of 2.1%, while President Obama's term logged a 1.5% expansion.
                                                                    Economy was set to take off, but Trump has created too much uncertainty.
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                                                                    • brooks85
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                                                                      #209
                                                                      ^d2 back to desperately lying.

                                                                      "set to take off"




                                                                      you try to hard d2, plus you're a proven moron thanks to me. Try getting new username and not being such an idiot next time.
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                                                                      • Roscoe_Word
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                                                                        #210
                                                                        If this can result in an uptick to about 3 or 4% growth, that would certainly be a good thing.

                                                                        The Gipper did it in the 80s, and, with some luck, it could be deja vu all over again.

                                                                        I like the deduction for the little guy. (I think goes up to about $1,200)

                                                                        Realize this might take a couple years to kick in.

                                                                        Many winners, brothers!
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