Do we have any craps specialists at SBR?

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  • SlickFazzer
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 05-22-08
    • 20209

    #1
    Do we have any craps specialists at SBR?
  • onthewhat
    Restricted User
    • 05-14-08
    • 15411

    #2
    I bet Fishhead knows a thing or two with his casino experience.

    He may be an expert dice roller.
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    • MonkeyF0cker
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 06-12-07
      • 12144

      #3
      What is a craps specialist exactly, Slick? You mean a dice setter?
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      • Casperwaits
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 08-25-06
        • 5042

        #4
        What do you want to know. I have played craps numerous times in Vegas & Atlantic City
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        • SlickFazzer
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 05-22-08
          • 20209

          #5
          There are professional sports bettors, professional poker players....

          is there such a thing as a "Professional" Craps player...?
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          • Casperwaits
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 08-25-06
            • 5042

            #6
            Originally posted by SlickFazzer
            There are professional sports bettors, professional poker players....

            is there such a thing as a "Professional" Craps player...?

            Of course. Hell, there are professional slots players. If there are odds, angles, and ways to maximize profit, their will always be pros.
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            • ijustwant2bpaid
              Restricted User
              • 11-11-08
              • 3706

              #7
              of course there are, go to oakland, u will find 1000's of pro craps players...
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              • MonkeyF0cker
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 06-12-07
                • 12144

                #8
                Originally posted by SlickFazzer
                There are professional sports bettors, professional poker players....

                is there such a thing as a "Professional" Craps player...?
                There are supposedly people who have been able to master "dice control," which can give you an edge in craps. It takes many, many hours of practice, however. I, personally, have never met someone here in Vegas that has but there are a couple of places here that try to teach it to people, along with several books on the subject.
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                • pavyracer
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 04-12-07
                  • 82905

                  #9
                  The easiest way to win in craps is to not roll the dice. Place your bet on the number you like, place the dice in your hands with the number the bet is placed facing up, throw the dice with a flat trajectory landing them level with the table without bouncing but just skidding the cloth and you have a winner.
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                  • Fishhead
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 08-11-05
                    • 40179

                    #10
                    Through "dice control", craps can be beaten.

                    Anyone that subscribes to BJ21's Green Chip membership(Stanford Wongs site) knows quite a bit on how this is done.

                    Personally, never attemped it seriously and probably never will.
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                    • InTheHole
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 04-28-08
                      • 15243

                      #11
                      Do you know the Dominator? Fish?
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                      • Mudcat
                        Restricted User
                        • 07-21-05
                        • 9287

                        #12
                        If you just bet and fling the dice, craps is a losing proposition in the long run. The odds dictate that.

                        However there are people who can turn the game in their favor. This is done by creating strategic wind currents that influence the dice. The main methods are extreme fluttering of the eyelashes and/or turbo-farts.

                        At casinos where security is more lax, the professional craps player will smuggle in a leaf blower. You couldn't get away with that on the strip though.
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                        • bettilimbroke999
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 02-04-08
                          • 13254

                          #13
                          Are you talkin about that grandmother broke the record by goin like 5 hours shooting dice without crapping out couple days ago, fukin unreal could've broken the casino if there were high rollers
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                          • Fishhead
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 08-11-05
                            • 40179

                            #14
                            Frank Scoblete’s new Casino Killer College is coming to Tunica on April 21 – for one night only! What is this college? Why Frank is holding classes which can give you an edge at games such as slots, video poker, and Pai Gow poker. Here is the schedule for the weekend. You’ll note this is also the weekend when Golden Touch™ is doing its two-day dice control class as well.
                            Advantage Slot Machines and Video Poker, Other Good Machines, Maximizing Cashback and Comps: This class is given by two experts in the field – gaming columnists Jerry "Stickman" and Street Dog (who just hit for a major slot jackpot!). They will explain which slot machines can give players an edge over the house and which are the best video poker machines to play – and what optimum strategies to use. They will also discuss the best non-advantage slot and video poker machines that are close contests between the house and the player. Includes excellent information on maximizing cashback and comps.



                            Advantage Pai Gow Poker: Many players don’t realize that Pai Gow Poker is a beatable game – if the players know what they are doing – playing the right games with the right strategies. This class will teach you how to expertly play your hands and how to use the banking element of the game to get the edge over the casino. The instructors of this course are Frank Scoblete and Dominator. States Frank Scoblete: "This class will be hands on instruction. Pai Gow is a great game and it can be beaten."

                            Golden Touch™ Dice Control Class: The only way to beat craps is to learn how to control the dice. Learn how to do this from the World’s Greatest Dice Control Experts in a two-day class that teaches you the art of Golden Touch™ dice control taught by Frank Scoblete, Dominator, Stickman, Rock ‘n Roller, Mr. Finesse, Chip, Billy.


                            Golden Touch™ Dice Control Revolution! ($16.95) co-author Dominator
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                            • SlickFazzer
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 05-22-08
                              • 20209

                              #15
                              Thanks Fishhead.
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                              • jjgold
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 07-20-05
                                • 388179

                                #16
                                Fishhead knows all the angles of casino games

                                what does this guy not know?
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                                • mathdotcom
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 03-24-08
                                  • 11689

                                  #17
                                  how to get girls

                                  but who needs girls when you have $$
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                                  • unknown Gambler
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 11-11-08
                                    • 758

                                    #18
                                    Jigga a boo jones, heres a dice setter.


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                                    • big joe 1212
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 06-01-08
                                      • 19380

                                      #19
                                      Too bad you have to throw the dice in the casino!

                                      he is pretty good though!
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                                      • unknown Gambler
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 11-11-08
                                        • 758

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by big joe 1212
                                        Too bad you have to throw the dice in the casino!

                                        he is pretty good though!
                                        True.
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                                        • reno cool
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 07-02-08
                                          • 3567

                                          #21
                                          As far as I know nothing has been proven about anyone actually influencing the dice at a casino with a legal throw. I remember the wizard of odds was supposed observe a thrower with an impressive record on New Years eve in a casino a couple of years ago. But, I never heard what happened.
                                          bird bird da bird's da word
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                                          • xyzky
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 08-23-07
                                            • 1577

                                            #22
                                            Reno Cool: Where do you live?? People get backed off of craps tables all of the time, especially when you are rolling some nice #'s!! Been rolled off personally and I am not a true dice roller!!

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                                            • Justin7
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 07-31-06
                                              • 8577

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by reno cool
                                              As far as I know nothing has been proven about anyone actually influencing the dice at a casino with a legal throw. I remember the wizard of odds was supposed observe a thrower with an impressive record on New Years eve in a casino a couple of years ago. But, I never heard what happened.
                                              You ever hear about the Fezzik/Wong challenge?
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                                              • reno cool
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 07-02-08
                                                • 3567

                                                #24
                                                I've heard of Wong doing some stuff with dice. But from what I remember his # were less than impressive. I don't know if he's done better since? Maybe you can briefly describe what happened?
                                                bird bird da bird's da word
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                                                • reno cool
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 07-02-08
                                                  • 3567

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by xyzky
                                                  Reno Cool: Where do you live?? People get backed off of craps tables all of the time, especially when you are rolling some nice #'s!! Been rolled off personally and I am not a true dice roller!!

                                                  I've never heard or witnessed this.

                                                  In the past some casinos didn't allow you to set dice. But it's been a while since I've seen this. Most people do some kind of sets. And I think the casinos decided it's not worth antagonizing players.

                                                  Granted, things could be different for large stakes.
                                                  bird bird da bird's da word
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                                                  • pico
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 04-05-07
                                                    • 27321

                                                    #26
                                                    do we have a professional crapper here at sbr?
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                                                    • reno cool
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 07-02-08
                                                      • 3567

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Justin7
                                                      I agree, it is a small sample size.

                                                      There are other statistical tools you use when training... A key is how often the dice rotate "in sync". If each die rotates the same number of times, you can always avoid a 7 with the right set...

                                                      Crappers rate themselves on their long-term "7 ratio". If you're rolling a 7 every 6.4 throws, you can make a fortune. The best claim to have ratios around 7.

                                                      I actually know a couple other throwers who have trained for this. It takes constant practice to keep up your game, and a huge time commitment up front. It's easier to just beat sports and Blackjack.

                                                      Yeh, this thing in and of itself doesn't prove much.
                                                      If someone can show a 6.5-1 7's ratio the amount of $ he can make would be phenomenal. BJ wouldn't even be on the map in comparison. Don't know where you're comming from.

                                                      If they haven't made millions they're full of shit.
                                                      bird bird da bird's da word
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