How Can Cleve Win In Orlando??

Mac4Lyfe · 05-22-09, 10:45 PM

Cleveland has dominated the 1st half and Orlando dominates the 2nd half. I think we see more of the same with nail biters.

jjgold · 05-22-09, 10:52 PM

I hope so. great series so far.

CaneDawg · 05-22-09, 10:54 PM

i think they get one coach

all of them should come down to the wire

pavyracer · 05-22-09, 10:54 PM

Take the points whatever the line is.

paco · 05-22-09, 11:32 PM

Lebron james and his whole family deserve to burn in hell! Fake birth certificste fuc*ers!

rossta4i · 05-22-09, 11:37 PM

Orlando is gonna come out strong in the 1st half as well dominate the 2nd half. I don't give much chance for the Cavs in orlando. I just hope the officals call a better game.

jjgold · 05-23-09, 07:39 AM

Originally posted by rossta4i

Orlando is gonna come out strong in the 1st half as well dominate the 2nd half. I don't give much chance for the Cavs in orlando. I just hope the officals call a better game.

That is what I think, clearly Orlando is a better team. Cavs cannot even hold big leads at home because they are overmatched.

Dexter · 05-23-09, 08:47 AM

jjgold - i hear rumors that you degrade new posters...why is that?

darrell74 · 05-23-09, 08:52 AM

Originally posted by paco

Lebron james and his whole family deserve to burn in hell! Fake birth certificste fuc*ers!

Can anybody explain that one to me?

LT Profits · 05-23-09, 09:05 AM

I think Cleveland has a better chance of winning a game in Orlando than the Lakers do of winning a game in Denver.

That said. an Orlando/Denver final is starting to look like a real possibility.

Dexter · 05-23-09, 09:23 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

That is what I think, clearly Orlando is a better team. Cavs cannot even hold big leads at home because they are overmatched.

did you say this before the series started? if so, good call.

i for one think the cavs are still the better team. give me the defensive minded team over a 3 point shooting team anyday. however, the magic clearly have the mental edge over cleav - i expect this series to go 7 for sure.

LT Profits · 05-23-09, 09:41 AM

Originally posted by Dexter

did you say this before the series started? if so, good call.

i for one think the cavs are still the better team. give me the defensive minded team over a 3 point shooting team anyday. however, the magic clearly have the mental edge over cleav - i expect this series to go 7 for sure.

Orlando is second to Cleveland defensively, so to call them strictly a 3-point shooting team is unfair.

NBA Hero · 05-23-09, 02:32 PM

im still leaning on cavs series.but really surprised on the resilience of magic. LBJs teammate is sleepwalking, like a replay of previous seasons. He cant do it alone. kobe is a living proof

SportsTerminator · 05-23-09, 05:51 PM

Well Orlando isn't flawless at home. They have lost several times at home in the playoffs. Playing at home doesn't really give Orlando strong confidence like other teams (Houston, Utah, Denver, Dallas, etc.). So the Cavs can easily steal one. I like the Cavs to win this series. Whether Orlando wins or loses depends on whether or not their hitting their shots. That's basically all what it comes down to. And Orlando has been hitting their shots.

ASH0479 · 05-23-09, 10:54 PM

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How can they win....stay at home on the three ball, thats how Orlando got back into the first two games...when Howard gets the Ball foul him...you got Ilgauskus, Wallace and Smith, thats 18 fouls...Go over the picks not under them...

Orl will not continue to shoot lights out from three for the entire series, they are somewhere around 45 percent...if they cool down at all from out there...watch out

MJFtheGenius · 05-23-09, 11:06 PM

Profits you are a mush

as soon as you put "denver will not lose a single home playoff game so bet accordingly" denver loses a home playoff game.....

Throughout my 3 years on SBR you have really lost it and I am not sure why.

jmiezie · 05-23-09, 11:06 PM

It will come down to the final minutes and who can execute will win the game.. The officiating is gonna play a huge part. The NBA wants Lebron and Kobe, lot of money by backers spent on advertising.. Noone wants Carmelo and Howard. I would be really surprised if theres any other outcome than Lebron and Kobe. I think Lebron gets game 3 and wins back home court just like Kobe.

paco · 05-23-09, 11:11 PM

Just the way lakers won in denver. Its the conference finals, these 4 tms are the best. What i did realize i underdog covered all 5 games

BigMoneyMan · 05-23-09, 11:11 PM

Originally posted by SportsTerminator

Well Orlando isn't flawless at home. They have lost several times at home in the playoffs. Playing at home doesn't really give Orlando strong confidence like other teams (Houston, Utah, Denver, Dallas, etc.). So the Cavs can easily steal one. I like the Cavs to win this series. Whether Orlando wins or loses depends on whether or not their hitting their shots. That's basically all what it comes down to. And Orlando has been hitting their shots.

Cavs can't and won't win. If Orlando even get a modestly fair officiating crew it will be a blowout.

Terminator?

Whether Orlando wins or loses depends on whether or not their hitting their shots. That's basically all what it comes down to. And Orlando has been hitting their shots.[/quote]

I think you meant something more than that you have been around awhile and are a decent capper. That's like saying if a team scores more than the other they win if not they lose. I will let you think about your post and update it because I know you can give a better explanation.

Posted on 5-6 on my rundown. I suggest you check it out for verification.

So heres my prediction about the playoffs. East wins. Lakers and Denver win and cancell each other out. With DENVER WIN. In the east its a crap shoot. As good as Cavs are they can't run in the paint against the beast. 30 point beat down proves it, and for the first time Lebrone know it!! They will have to shoot from the arc or go home and Orlando is not the team you want to go toe to toe with on the 3 line. So it will be Denver and Cavs or if they hold the paint and make cavs shoot the perimiter. Magic/ Denver finalls. Denver wins. Magic/ Lakers finals Magic wins( only team to sweep them this year, (go ahead look it up), Cavs/Lakers (nomally lakers doesn't matter tierd from Denver) Cavs win BIG STATEMENT. Last CAVS /DENVER Cavs lose in 6. Denver has to many fast guards that will blow right by James. Look what Lebones stats where against Detroit when Billups played for them.

MJFtheGenius · 05-23-09, 11:16 PM

big money man
Denver no way they can beat cleveland in a 7 game series

you can't compare this denver team with that Detroit team

that detroit team had 5 all stars on it

NBA Hero · 05-24-09, 02:14 AM

and still my projection is cavs- lakers. everybody has their own opinion.

NBA Hero · 05-24-09, 02:15 AM

Originally posted by ASH0479

How can they win....stay at home on the three ball, thats how Orlando got back into the first two games...when Howard gets the Ball foul him...you got Ilgauskus, Wallace and Smith, thats 18 fouls...Go over the picks not under them...

Orl will not continue to shoot lights out from three for the entire series, they are somewhere around 45 percent...if they cool down at all from out there...watch out

now, this guy would make a better assistant coach for mike brown. LoL. orl wont be close if they foul howard. let him get the ball on the side of the paint and bingo.

Shortstop · 05-24-09, 02:49 AM

If they score more points than the Magic.

BigMoneyMan · 05-24-09, 05:00 AM

Originally posted by NBA Hero

and still my projection is cavs- lakers. everybody has their own opinion.

Agreed. That series is over. Lakers win but Denver big next game.
Orlando as to take both at home

I want to be rubbing shoulders with the stars in O town. Look for me next to Jack. Trading the box tickets for the floor I hope. Its totally back ass here. No one wants to be on the floor. We are either low and stupid or up in the box with the pros. Can't see the floor but supposed to be the best, I don't get it. Its like being at a club and VIP is a bunch of want to be's and your thinking I want to be on the floor. Nothing special, I like to be in the mix with my peeps!! Don't mater who you are, what you make, is all about the game. I hate stuffy ****ers, and in my business adventures I have always found that the most sucsessful are the most down to earth. I know i can be a little boastful at time and for that I appologize.

I told my sister the one thing a man wants you to believe he is is excatly what he is not. Rich men act poor, smart men act dumb, poor men act rich, players act humble, and jokers tell their friends. Point being don't front and if someone cares about you they don't anyhow.

Jerry Seinfeld · 05-24-09, 05:05 AM

Originally posted by Shortstop

If they score more points than the Magic.

LOL that's great.

I think this game will be an opposite of the first two. I see Orlando jumping out to a lead and as the Cavs get more comfortable they will start to loosen up and make it a game. Amazing though how much different things would be right now if Lebron's shot rattles out.

Dark Horse · 05-24-09, 05:30 AM

Cavs need to slow the game down. They want to change this into a half court game. It's all about the tempo. In the first two games the Cavs big lead worked against them. It made them soft on defense, because they believed they were better than they are and could run with Orlando.

On the downside for the Cavs, Mike Brown is at risk of being completely outcoached, by relying on James too much. Amazingly, he had no way of stopping the long slide, down from a huge lead, even though the exact same thing had already happened in game 1. That means he is clueless where it comes to meaningful in-game adjustments. So he has to rely on pregame preparation. And, unless he had lost all sense of reality, that means half court basketball in the Spurs/Pops school (his mentor). It's that or dream on about greatness and get eliminated by the Magic.

And Brown should tell James to play more within the team. James taking over a game early on is bad news for the Cavs, because they all end up standing around and watching. Kobe has learned that lesson in the past seasons.

Take the under.

ASH0479 · 05-24-09, 08:28 AM

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Originally posted by NBA Hero

now, this guy would make a better assistant coach for mike brown. LoL. orl wont be close if they foul howard. let him get the ball on the side of the paint and bingo.

Lol....Thanks man....I mean looking at these games Orlando's big runs came when they hit back to back 3's....IN all honesty if I am Cleveland I leave Howard one on one in the post, forget the double team because you are leaving a shooter wide open...If howard shoots thats fine, live with it, if he puts the ball on the floor to dunk like always, knoack him on his a$$...whats he shoot 40 %....But hey I aint coach of the year so what do I know!

TMajic · 05-24-09, 09:01 AM

I am still trying to figure out why Orlando is the much better team? Why? Because they play (shoot) horribly in the first half to get down big? Or because they rally to take the lead and should be up 2-0? Seems like a pretty even series to me. One team dominates each half.

suicidekings · 05-24-09, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by TMajic

I am still trying to figure out why Orlando is the much better team? Why? Because they play (shoot) horribly in the first half to get down big? Or because they rally to take the lead and should be up 2-0? Seems like a pretty even series to me. One team dominates each half.

The big difference in the first two games was that the Cavs went untested in previous rounds, whereas the Magic earned their place in the Conference Final. Orlando went head to head with the reigning NBA champion and won, and a big part of their success vs Boston and Cleveland has been having a focused mindset and not letting up. When the Cavs' attention is on Howard, Lewis/Turkoglu are punishing them from outside and vice-versa for a very balanced offense.

I know Cleveland has a lot of talent around Lebron, but I feel like they're too unsure of themselves as a team right now so that when things get tough, there's too much pressure put on Lebron to hold the line and the Cavs' secondary players haven't matched the efforts of their counterparts on the Magic. If this doesn't change fast, the Magic are going to win this series.

Mac4Lyfe · 05-24-09, 11:27 AM

Originally posted by suicidekings

I know Cleveland has a lot of talent around Lebron, but I feel like they're too unsure of themselves as a team right now so that when things get tough, there's too much pressure put on Lebron to hold the line and the Cavs' secondary players haven't matched the efforts of their counterparts on the Magic. If this doesn't change fast, the Magic are going to win this series.

I disagree vehemently. The guys around Lebron are role players who can't be counted on in crunch time. Even Mo is more of a 6th man and not really a starting PG in my mind. His defensive liabilities override his offensive scoring. He's the one guy that Orlando is attacking and their guards are killing Cleveland off the dribble. Then of course, at the 4 spot you have 2 slugs in Ben Wallace and Verajao. You might score more points sitting on your couch then they will

FrozenMAN · 05-24-09, 01:13 PM

i hope the magic advance cause i bet a buddy from cleveland but i just can't see the cavs losing today, they have all the momentum, the magic are still in shock at that shot, plus the cavs have dominated the 1st halves and if they play find defensive intensity in the 2nd half they win by 8+

cavs ML

NBA Hero · 05-24-09, 01:34 PM

i like to see how coach of the year aka defensive specialist mike brown adjust the defensive assignment on having a man on hedo, lewis, howard and now petrus. and i expect some other guy on home court, alston, lee.

playoff as it gets deeper is all about adjustment.

cavs might be better off in the road where they only have each other to count on. the two halfs of the home game has been a nightmare for them. from eventual champ to chump.

cavs in game3

Dark Horse · 05-24-09, 10:51 PM

Mike Brown is just not too smart. Game is low scoring and close at halftime; 41-42.

How the hell does he think a 57 pt 4Q will help Cleveland?

Plus James is playing above the team, instead of within the team. So the team chemistry is gone.

Van Gundy is licking his chops.

(anyway, the under hit.

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jjgold · 05-24-09, 10:52 PM

It is just that the Cabs do not matchup well against Orlando, this series is all over. I do not think Cleve wins another game.