JJ: Kobe wouldn't miss all these free throws

flyingillini · 05-20-09, 10:18 PM

exactly, good call T

Tsoprano · 05-20-09, 10:20 PM

Omg @ Lebron with the and 1

ijustwant2bpaid · 05-20-09, 10:22 PM

made the clutch freethrow as well

ijustwant2bpaid · 05-20-09, 10:22 PM

the late 3 by orlANDO omfg!!!!

flyingillini · 05-20-09, 10:24 PM

unreal, I need Orlando got em on the ML but I can see me it lose, I sense cleveland pulls it out

ijustwant2bpaid · 05-20-09, 10:25 PM

why would they go for that 3?????

ijustwant2bpaid · 05-20-09, 10:26 PM

damn that play woulda been classic, well we can only hope for -150 next game

durito · 05-20-09, 10:26 PM

please

randomness

Tsoprano · 05-20-09, 10:28 PM

Those missed free throws were HUGH!!!!!!!

ijustwant2bpaid · 05-20-09, 10:29 PM

i agree, but kobe still is not nearly as good as a baller a LJ

BrandonLaz · 05-20-09, 10:33 PM

That was my point after the Laker game last night. I was telling people if Lebron was on the Lakers and he had attempted as many FTs as Kobe had in that game it would have been a different outcome. Tonight it bit the Cavaliers in the rear end. He is still only 24 though give the kid time he improved a ton this year on them and will only get better with time.

Jobe2004 · 05-20-09, 10:35 PM

paul pierce wouldn't miss those free throws either....oh wait...

jjgold · 05-20-09, 10:37 PM

Lebron did not lose this game, his supporting cast played horrific.

He has no talent around him, Kobe has a solid cast

ijustwant2bpaid · 05-20-09, 10:38 PM

Pierce does not even belong in the same conversation...

BobHarvey · 05-20-09, 10:39 PM

Kobe was 6-6 from the FT line in the final 30 seconds of Game 1. Clutch. Lets see Lebron win a ring and THEN we can start comparing the two guys. Right now there's no better big game player than #24.

lakerboy · 05-20-09, 10:42 PM

Originally posted by BobHarvey

Kobe was 6-6 from the FT line in the final 30 seconds of Game 1. Clutch. I'm just sayin' .Lets see Lebron win a ring and we can start comparing the two guys. Right now there's no better big game player than #24.

exactly bro but your free picks lost 2 days in a row- are you picking lakers 2morrrow

The_Kid · 05-20-09, 10:43 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

He has no talent around him, Kobe has a solid cast

Lebron has talent around him. Mo Will and West just didn't come to play tonight and Big Z cannot guard Howard down low.

ijustwant2bpaid · 05-20-09, 10:43 PM

Originally posted by BobHarvey

Kobe was 6-6 from the FT line in the final 30 seconds of Game 1. Clutch. Lets see Lebron win a ring and THEN we can start comparing the two guys. Right now there's no better big game player than #24.

give Labron a Shaq and he would win it easily, question is will Kobe ever do it without him, IMO no fvcking way!

BobHarvey · 05-20-09, 10:44 PM

Bro,

I'm leaning towards the OVER in Game 2.

BobHarvey · 05-20-09, 10:44 PM

Originally posted by ijustwant2bpaid

give Labron a Shaq and he would win it easily, question is will Kobe ever do it without him, IMO no fvcking way!

Shaq isn't the reason Kobe hits clutch free throws.

ijustwant2bpaid · 05-20-09, 10:46 PM

but hes the reason he won his rings...

BobHarvey · 05-20-09, 10:49 PM

Originally posted by ijustwant2bpaid

but hes the reason he won his rings...

Valid argument. So here's the question. At this point in time, with the game on the line, in the final minute, who do trust more from the field and at the free throw line... 23 or 24?

Fiasco · 05-20-09, 10:49 PM

Tonight proves everything I've been saying about the cavs...

Lebron may be the most talented player in the league... and for the first 3 qtrs may even be the best player in the league... but when the game is on the line. the only quarter that truly matters, Kobe is your man.

Kobe is hands down the best player in the league. and in all honesty, I think D Wade could be argued at 2nd

D wade wouldn't miss 4th qtr free throws either... unlike lebron and paul pierce

BrandonLaz · 05-20-09, 10:50 PM

Originally posted by ijustwant2bpaid

give Labron a Shaq and he would win it easily, question is will Kobe ever do it without him, IMO no fvcking way!

Well we will see I think the Lakers have a better chance of beating the Cavs in the Finals than they do of the Magic. Howard would beat them up down low with how physical he plays in the post. Hopefully we have two good series to watch right now and we will see. This is also the sadest argument in all of sports by the way. Practically EVERY champion has had other Hall of Fame players play with them to get the job done. I honestly can't think of a superstar who has won a championship without another Hall of Fame guy on their team. Maybe the Detroit Pistons when they won as a team with Billups as their leader.

lakerboy · 05-20-09, 10:53 PM

Originally posted by Fiasco

Tonight proves everything I've been saying about the cavs...

Lebron may be the most talented player in the league... and for the first 3 qtrs may even be the best player in the league... but when the game is on the line. the only quarter that truly matters, Kobe is your man.

Kobe is hands down the best player in the league. and in all honesty, I think D Wade could be argued at 2nd

D wade wouldn't miss 4th qtr free throws either... unlike lebron and paul pierce

some people are so in love with Lebron that they have become legally blind- the kid is flashy and loves jumping around but he will NEVER win the title- that cleveland team is a bunch of stiffs

ijustwant2bpaid · 05-20-09, 10:54 PM

guy needs to stand on the line all offseason, u ever see that old dude that can hit like 200 in a row, dudes like 70 too, ft's are a lost art in our current day league..

durito · 05-20-09, 10:57 PM

you guys realize that clutch is a myth right?

BobHarvey · 05-20-09, 10:58 PM

Originally posted by ijustwant2bpaid

guy needs to stand on the line all offseason, u ever see that old dude that can hit like 200 in a row, dudes like 70 too, ft's are a lost art in our current day league..

That's the truth. Missed FT's killed Denver in Game 1. I believe that in the post-season flash takes a back seat to fundementals.

BrandonLaz · 05-20-09, 10:58 PM

Yea they really are a lost art. Jordan wasn't a great FT shooter same as Kobe, but they both made them when the game mattered. Against Boston to send the game into OT Jordan hits them both with time expired. Last night in a 30 second stretch Kobe goes 6/6. Lebron has to work on his FTs to where he has full confidence in them in pressure games. With that being said he deserves one hell of an ovation for how well he played today with the exception of the free throws. I look at them as ball doesn't lie scenarios anyway as he gets a ton of touch fouls called as most superstar guards such as Wade and Kobe do as well.

Chi_archie · 05-20-09, 10:58 PM

clutch is a myth.... in baseball....for sure.. never thought or looked at in baskets though....

I know I can shoot better from the line then lebron though

whoatommy · 05-21-09, 02:40 AM

Originally posted by Chi_archie

I know I can shoot better from the line then lebron though

LOL....I like to think that myself....but shooting free throws at the end of a game after running your hardest up and down the court for 40 minutes is a little

harder than you think...that's why I give a lot of credit to Kobe for being clutch from the line. Fatigue is the biggest factor..

Shortstop · 05-21-09, 04:15 AM

Originally posted by Jobe2004

paul pierce wouldn't miss those free throws either....oh wait...

jasont · 05-21-09, 04:25 AM

Originally posted by BobHarvey

Kobe was 6-6 from the FT line in the final 30 seconds of Game 1. Clutch. Lets see Lebron win a ring and THEN we can start comparing the two guys. Right now there's no better big game player than #24.

He hasnt won anything without Shaq. He has the best supporting cast in the league this year, let's see if he can finally do something on his own. Until then, LBJ is the better player.

jjgold · 05-21-09, 04:57 AM

Lebron has for the most part club players as his supporting cast, Mo Williams is good but he is small and a non threat. Lebron has no other player that is a threat to the other team.