UPS is offering 5% yield bond right now

[pico]

UPS as in the packaging company. matures in 2011, 5% annual yield. moody's rating is Aaa.

sounds like a chalk lock.

[durito]

I'll give you 9% pico.

[pico]

royal bank of canada is offering 10% annual yield bond for 10 years. matures in 2028

any canadains here? what is the chance of this canadian bank goes busto?

[pico]

I'll give you 9% pico.

USD? i have no way of collecting if you default. if UPS default, at least i get some mail trucks

[durito]

USD?

yes, USD.

if UPS default, at least i get some mail trucks

[sickler]

royal bank of canada is offering 10% annual yield bond for 10 years. matures in 2028

any canadains here? what is the chance of this canadian bank goes busto?

RBC is the largest financial institution in Canada. Been around almost 150 years. They're doing something right.

[pico]

RBC is the largest financial institution in Canada. Been around almost 150 years. They're doing something right.

well, lehman and AIG has been around for a while also.

royal bank of scotland is in deep shit too, they've been around for a while.

but, moody does give royal bank of canada bonds Aaa rating, which is the highest possible

[milwaukee mike]

lot of decent bonds trading as stocks, they are all way up but still yield 10% or so
uzv - us cellular
cpv/rbv - cbs corp

[durito]

They also gave a bunch of worthless shit AAA ratings for several years.

SBR's ratings are gold compared to that crap.

[milwaukee mike]

vnv - viacom

if you want a flier
gom - gmac, getting more government funding and probably won't default trading at 1/2 price

[milwaukee mike]

guy on tape at s&p said he would rate a 2 year old tuna sandwich triple a if they paid him enough.

[milwaukee mike]

what a joke that was, same kind of crap as enron starting wildfires and shutting down power plants in california for rolling blackouts.

greed corrupts plain and simple. and many are blind to that fact.

[bettilimbroke999]

guy on tape at s&p said he would rate a 2 year old tuna sandwich triple a if they paid him enough.

No doubt, everyone who works on Wall St is a crook who got rich insider trading and cookin the books, their ratings are about as reliable as they are

[pico]

so cavs ml or Aaa?

[bettilimbroke999]

Cavs ML is AAAA rated

[bettilimbroke999]

Maybe AAAB rated after that run

[pico]

Maybe AAAB rated after that run

uho, downgrading to C rating now

[milwaukee mike]

uho, downgrading to C rating now

lol

[pico]

cavs ml defaulted

[bettilimbroke999]

Clev needs a bailout