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  • VegasDave
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-03-07
    • 8056

    #1
    NHL Conference Finals Preview (Article)
    Red Wings and Penguins ready for Conference Finals

    We started with 16 teams, all with dreams of hoisting the Stanley Cup. Now only four teams remain. Getting this far is familiar territory to three of them; Carolina won the Stanley Cup in 2006, Detroit won it last year, and Pittsburgh was the team they beat to do it. For Chicago, it marks the first time in 15 years they have been this far. Can they beat their fellow Original 6 opponent? And who will prevail in the East?




    Well let’s just come out and say it; I got flat out slaughtered in my predictions of how the semifinals would go. My only correct prediction was that the Detroit Red Wings would win a hard fought series against the Anaheim Ducks; and it took a goal with just three minutes left in the game to break the tie to make that prediction come true. I was also right about Washington and Pittsburgh being very evenly matched and going to seven games; not so much with who would WIN game seven.

    While I had Vancouver advancing, I give myself some credit for backtracking on that prediction after seeing the first two games. Once I saw that the tempo was fast paced and high scoring, I knew that Vancouver wasn’t going to be able to keep up, and hedged out of that prediction when the series was tied at 1-1. As for Carolina? They just made a fool out of me, as I underestimated them every step of the way, and they kept rising to the challenge.

    But the last two rounds are a thing of the past, and the regular season is now far in our rear view mirror. We’ve seen what these four teams are capable of in the playoffs. The question is; can we use those observations to pick some winners? If my last round is any indication, the answer is “hell no”, but that isn’t going to stop me from trying.

    #2 Detroit Red Wings (-195) vs. #4 Chicago Blackhawks (+165)

    Do you like offense? Good. Because there is going to be plenty of it in this series.

    While both teams boast a respectable core of blueliners, the Chicago Blackhawks have made it quite clear what their strategy for success is; score, score, and score some more.

    In round one they played a Calgary team that was willing to try to play the same type of game and go toe to toe with the Blackhawks. That didn’t bode well for them as they picked up only two wins in the series before being sent home.

    Round two, Chicago played a team in Vancouver that relied on a steady mix of defense and goaltending as well as a consistent but not overpowering offense. I thought Vancouver would control the tempo, but Chicago steamrolled right over them, scoring at will and coming back from multiple deficits against one of the best goaltenders in the game in Roberto Luongo.

    You can’t take anything away from the Chicago Blackhawks. They had a great regular season and they’ve had a great run in the playoffs. They’ve also proven to be substantially more physical than they got credit for, and their age and experience has clearly not been an issue to date.

    But what happens when they run into a team that matches up perfectly against them? Calgary was willing to play the Blackhawk’s style of play, but they did not have the personnel or the talent to keep up. Vancouver tried to slow them down but failed. In Detroit, Chicago once again meets a team that will be willing to throw caution to the wind and play fast paced fun and gun hockey. But unlike Calgary, this team has the tools and the depth to beat them at their own game.

    Detroit’s first round sweep over Columbus was child’s play as they dominated a clearly inferior and shell-shocked opponent. In the second round they met the Ducks, who are perfectly built for the playoffs; they are mean, gritty, talented, and they always get hot goaltending at the right time. This is a nasty team that pushed Detroit to the limit.

    But Chicago while physical and defensively capable in their own right doesn’t have the shutdown defensive style that the Ducks did. They also don’t have the veteran playoff experience or the Stanley Cup rings that the Ducks did.

    I can see Chicago winning this series, don’t get me wrong. They have the firepower to make no lead safe, making them a very tough team to keep down and out. I used the same terminology when predicting the Bruins would beat the Hurricanes that “both teams play the same style, but the Bruins play it better”, and obviously I was wrong. But one of the main reasons I believe I was wrong was that Carolina had the intangibles; they have recently won a Stanley Cup and had the playoff experience and they knew what it took to dig deep and upset a superior opponent. In this series, not only does Detroit play the fun and gun style better, but they also have the intangibles and the playoff experience on their side. As such, I don’t see them losing this series.
    Prediction: Detroit in 6
    Betting Strategies: I’d bet the Detroit to win the series, and would also consider small wagers on Detroit in 6 and Detroit in 7 exact series prices. But most importantly, bet OVERS. Expect the lamp to be lit plenty and consistently throughout the entire series.

    #4 Pittsburgh Penguins (-195) vs. #6 Carolina Hurricanes (+165)

    I wouldn’t shut up about the Anaheim Ducks. How they were the type of team that would never say die, was built for the playoffs, got excellent goaltending, just won a Stanley Cup a few years ago, and was being written off by everyone when they should be taken as a serious threat to win it all.

    Meanwhile, I just so happened to be writing off a team that matched that exact same criteria in the Carolina Hurricanes. Funny how we can be selective with what we see, isn’t it?

    Now granted, the Hurricanes and Ducks are two very different teams, and I still think the Ducks are the “better” team. But that doesn’t really matter now, does it? Given the choice of being eight wins away from being Stanley Cup champions and not having Vegas Dave’s approval or golfing this weekend and having Vegas Dave give you the thumbs up, I highly doubt Carolina would trade spots with Anaheim.

    Both the first round and second round took seven games for Carolina to come out on top, and both games were won in the closing seconds, too. This team simply will not go away. New Jersey had the lead with less then two minutes to go in game seven; and they didn’t even make it to overtime.

    Pittsburgh didn’t take the easy road to get to this point either. Falling to 0-2 to Washington, Pittsburgh had to defy the odds and claw their way back into the series, eventually pushing the series to a seventh game that they completely dominated. You can say what you want about Sidney Crosby’s attitude or that he “rubs you the wrong way”, but if you aren’t willing to accept the fact that he was deserving of all the hype and is an elite NHL talent, you are in serious denial.

    This series is an awfully tough one to cap. Carolina appears to be outmatched on paper, but that doesn’t seem to bother them if the first two series are any indication. I’d actually give the goaltending edge to the Hurricanes as well considering how strong Cam Ward has been. But in the end, I have to side with the Penguins. Boston had a balanced attack, but didn’t really have any star power on offense. Pittsburgh has two of the three best players in the league on offense, and quite frankly I don’t think Carolina will have an answer for Sidney Crosby or Evgeni Malkin. I wouldn’t bet the series price against the Hurricanes since they are so pesky, but I do expect the Penguins to prevail.
    Prediction: Pittsburgh in 7
    Betting Strategies: I’d pick spots betting Pittsburgh in individual games when the juice was reasonable, and do the same for overs as I expect this to be a high scoring series as well.
  • mathdotcom
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 03-24-08
    • 11689

    #2
    I like the Canes son
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    • VegasDave
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 01-03-07
      • 8056

      #3
      Good luck if you bet it mathy
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      • betplom
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 09-20-06
        • 13444

        #4
        I like the Canes as well, and if they beat Pitt I like their chances better than anyone's to beat the Red Wings.

        Time for a Cup wager on Carolina.

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        • Flyers09
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          • 04-13-09
          • 3666

          #5
          canes cant beat the pens
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          • reno cool
            SBR MVP
            • 07-02-08
            • 3567

            #6
            I'm surprised to see that many agree with me that the Canes are very strong. Although they did look like shit for a while there.
            The pace of the Bos-Car series was way ahead of the Pit-Was series. Hockey is good at proving one dead wrong, but I wouldn't be surprised with a Canes blowout.
            bird bird da bird's da word
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            • VegasDave
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 01-03-07
              • 8056

              #7
              Originally posted by reno cool
              I'm surprised to see that many agree with me that the Canes are very strong. Although they did look like shit for a while there.
              The pace of the Bos-Car series was way ahead of the Pit-Was series. Hockey is good at proving one dead wrong, but I wouldn't be surprised with a Canes blowout.
              The Canes are a great team, but perhaps most importantly, they have two things that make them absolutely lethal; an excellent goaltender who brings his game to the next level for the playoffs, and a genuine belief that they are never out of the game.

              This wasn't characterized any better than when they showed Eric Staal on the bench when Carolina tied the game with New Jersey. While everyone else was celebrating, he calmly looked up at the clock. Any other team is thinking THANK GOD! OVERTIME! Eric Staal and the Canes are thinking "we still have a minute and change to win this now".

              I just don't think they are going to have an answer for the Big 2, but you guys are not crazy at all to see value in them. Good luck.
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              • reno cool
                SBR MVP
                • 07-02-08
                • 3567

                #8
                I think it's their ability to control the puck by making accurate and creative wide passes that sets them apart. Pittsburgh is going to have to jam up the passing lanes and forecheck well, to slow em down.
                bird bird da bird's da word
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                • element1286
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                  • 02-25-08
                  • 3370

                  #9
                  Good writeup as always Dave.
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                  • Cash Capper
                    SBR Hustler
                    • 05-12-09
                    • 57

                    #10
                    Penguins are overrated..It took them 7 games to beat a 1 man team with non existent goaltending. Anaheim was very good but if you think they're better than Chicago your nuts. These are both great series coming up but I like the blackhawks to beat detroit while the pitt/car series has be sitting back to watch. I just don't think it's gonna be as easy for pitt as everyone thinks. Carolina is a team, unlike washington.
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                    • RogueScholar
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 02-05-07
                      • 5082

                      #11
                      Spectacular writing as always, Dave. I've got a lot to chew on because while I agree with you that the Wings will win their series (possibly even in 5, I suspect), like many others here my gut is with the Canes after watching the first two rounds. You make some excellent points on behalf of the Penguins, and I find I may just spot bet these games instead of plunking greenbacks on Carolina to advance.

                      Thanks for sharing your wisdom.

                      Originally posted by StraitShooter
                      90% of the guys dont give a shit about your problems..and the other 10 are glad you have them..
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                      • Flyers09
                        Restricted User
                        • 04-13-09
                        • 3666

                        #12
                        Both clubs for the canes and pens have great goaltending...its going to be a battle, but crosby will light em up...or at least deke him enough to get his team mates to score
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                        • VegasDave
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 01-03-07
                          • 8056

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Cash Capper
                          Penguins are overrated..It took them 7 games to beat a 1 man team with non existent goaltending. Anaheim was very good but if you think they're better than Chicago your nuts. These are both great series coming up but I like the blackhawks to beat detroit while the pitt/car series has be sitting back to watch. I just don't think it's gonna be as easy for pitt as everyone thinks. Carolina is a team, unlike washington.
                          I don't believe I said they were better than Chicago, I said they were better than Carolina.

                          I said that Detroit matches up BETTER against Chicago than they did the Ducks, that doesn't necessarily mean they were "better" than the Hawks.

                          I have to disagree that the Capitals are a "one man team". Backstrom, Semin, and Federov are all very dangerous, and Mike Green is one of the best offensive defensemen in the game. Washington is a lot deeper than they get credit for.

                          We will see! Two great series and pretty great stories no matter who ends up in the finals.
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                          • Cash Capper
                            SBR Hustler
                            • 05-12-09
                            • 57

                            #14
                            Ovechkin scored over 65% of his teams points...If he didn't score at least 2 a game they lost.
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                            • VegasDave
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 01-03-07
                              • 8056

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Cash Capper
                              Ovechkin scored over 65% of his teams points...If he didn't score at least 2 a game they lost.
                              Considering the Caps scored 272 goals this season, and Ovechkin had 110 points (56 goals, 54 assists)...

                              He scored 20.6% of the team's goals

                              and

                              Had something to do with (goal or assist) 40.4% of their goals...

                              So clearly your 65% number is completely made up.

                              Also, it goes without saying that when your best player who leads your team in ice time and power play time registers 0 or 1 points, you are going to have a harder time winning... but the Caps did pick up almost half of their wins (23 of 50) when Ovie didn't score 2 points...
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                              • blackbart
                                SBR MVP
                                • 12-04-07
                                • 3838

                                #16
                                its the stanley cup, goal scorers dont win , defense does. Go with the better goalie.
                                pitt is the weakest team carolina has faced . The bruins were the worst possible matchup for them.
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                                • Winnipeg Jets
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 05-16-09
                                  • 1723

                                  #17
                                  The Wings got the shit scared out of them in their series with the Ducks. They were hugely relieved game 7 didn't go into o.t. I expect them to really pick it up and play Wings hockey. A solid shut down defense with lots of offensive fireworks. Chicago won the last 2 games of the season series only because the Wings had nothing to play for( President Trophy jinx). Datsyuk will come to life against the Hawks after being invisible against the Ducks. If Habby plays out of this world or Ozzie sucks, only than will Detriot be in another dog fight. Wings all the way to their 2nd back to back Stanley Cup.
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                                  • element1286
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                                    • 02-25-08
                                    • 3370

                                    #18
                                    A lot of Penguins hate.
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                                    • Flyers09
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 04-13-09
                                      • 3666

                                      #19
                                      i hate the pens,canes,hawks

                                      but its going to be another wings/pens matchup, and if its not....ill be shocked. I believe if the hawks advance they will not beat either the canes or the pens, hawks cant beat fleury or ward....no way in hell

                                      wings/pens=wings
                                      wings/canes=wings
                                      hawks/pens=pens
                                      hawks/canes=canes
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                                      • VegasDave
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 01-03-07
                                        • 8056

                                        #20
                                        Looks like we all gave the Hurricanes a little too much credit huh?
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                                        • reno cool
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 07-02-08
                                          • 3567

                                          #21
                                          Man, was I wrong. NHL always makes me look bad. You're the man Dave.
                                          bird bird da bird's da word
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                                          • VegasDave
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 01-03-07
                                            • 8056

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by reno cool
                                            Man, was I wrong. NHL always makes me look bad. You're the man Dave.
                                            Bah, I said 7! Glad to be right, but 3 blowout wins and the sweep? Some very rich blind-faith Pens fans out there that bet that exact series price of Pens in 4
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                                            • element1286
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                                              • 02-25-08
                                              • 3370

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by VegasDave
                                              Bah, I said 7! Glad to be right, but 3 blowout wins and the sweep? Some very rich blind-faith Pens fans out there that bet that exact series price of Pens in 4
                                              I cashed my Pens +450 to win the East ticket. I still got the Pens +900 to win the Stanley Cup. Not sure if I am going to hedge or not.
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