could Cito Gaston be the most succesful manager?

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  • WhatAboutMeBitch
    SBR MVP
    • 01-02-09
    • 1294

    #1
    could Cito Gaston be the most succesful manager?
    in short term situations? Guy has like 7 or 8 years of managing 2 world series wins 4 or 5 al east pennants. Last he year he took over a crappy team with a 35-39 record and went 51-37 with them the rest of the way. And he and the jays are off to a good start this year
  • betplom
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 09-20-06
    • 13444

    #2
    Originally posted by WhatAboutMeBitch
    in short term situations? Guy has like 7 or 8 years of managing 2 world series wins 4 or 5 al east pennants. Last he year he took over a crappy team with a 35-39 record and went 51-37 with them the rest of the way. And he and the jays are off to a good start this year
    I'm a huge Cito fan.

    I like his style and his approach to the game, he certainly gets the most production out of his players.

    He's laid back and his demeanor relaxes the team.

    Cito Gaston
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    • jjgold
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-20-05
      • 388179

      #3
      Solid guy

      If he wins another title will go down as one of best ever
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      • WhatAboutMeBitch
        SBR MVP
        • 01-02-09
        • 1294

        #4
        how did he not have a job for all these years?
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        • Willie Bee
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 02-14-06
          • 15726

          #5
          Originally posted by betplom
          I'm a huge Cito fan.

          I like his style and his approach to the game, he certainly gets the most production out of his players.

          He's laid back and his demeanor relaxes the team.

          Cito Gaston
          Ditto. Have always liked him since his playing days back with some of the very early Padres teams. Would love to see him at least make the playoffs with this team. Geez, how good might they be if McGowan and Marcum were healthy?
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          • Mudcat
            Restricted User
            • 07-21-05
            • 9287

            #6
            I have all kinds of respect for Cito. Sometimes I am just dying to start a crusade against Alex Rios as the #3 hitter but then I think to myself, 'Let's just let Cito handle it how he sees fit.'
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            • d2bets
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 08-10-05
              • 39995

              #7
              Good manager.
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              • BouncedCheck
                SBR Sharp
                • 02-21-09
                • 283

                #8
                Originally posted by WhatAboutMeBitch
                how did he not have a job for all these years?
                Clemens got him fired after 1997, but Cito has been kept in the organization throughout all these years in a diminished role until he was brought back to manage last year.

                Back in the early 1990s I was a strong NL fan, so I hated the Blue Jays back then, and I also hated the city of Toronto for personal reasons (bad things happened when I was there - not to me while I was there, but bad things in other places happened WHILE I was there) so back then, I really truly hated everything to do with Toronto. But there's little doubt, he was a good manager then, and he's a good manager now.

                Things have changed a lot, and I really hope Toronto finds a way to win the division this year.

                Roger Clemens has certainly left a path of destruction behind him everywhere he's been. He's a perfect microcosm of the human race... from The Matrix... "I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species and I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You're a plague and we are the cure."

                He left Boston on the worst of terms, then caused damage to the Yankees by using them as leverage to get more money from Toronto, then got Cito Gaston fired, who was replaced by Tim Johnson, who himself was run out of town after just one year when it was discovered he'd lied to his players about his military heroics (that never happened), but by the time Johnson was replaced, Clemens was also gone, this time to New York, where he stunk up the joint for several years while abusing steroids. He managed to ride his teammates' coattails in 1999 and 2000, then contributed to losing the World Series in 2001 and 2003, ruined Brian McNamee's life in the process, and then pitched like crap for Houston in the 2005 World Series. The Astros still haven't recovered since Clemens and Pettitte bolted in 2007. What a scumbag piece of shit. He pretty much ruined the last three franchises he played for and made a complete farce of congressional testimony, which is a farce in and of itself, but that's a discussion for a different time.
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