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  • The General
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    • 08-10-05
    • 13279

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    Marijuana potency update
    The average potency of marijuana, which has risen steadily for three decades, has exceeded 10 percent for the first time, the U.S. government will report on Thursday.

    Mahmoud ElSohly says marijuana's potency will continue to rise before tailing off in the next five years.


    Scientists working for the government predict that potency, as measured by the drug's concentration of the psychoactive ingredient THC, will continue to rise.

    At the University of Mississippi's Potency Monitoring Project, where thousands of samples of seized marijuana are tested every year, project director Mahmoud ElSohly said some samples have THC levels exceeding 30 percent.

    Average THC concentrations will continue to climb before leveling off at 15 percent or 16 percent in five to 10 years, ElSohly predicted.

    The stronger marijuana is of particular concern because high concentrations of THC have the opposite effect of low concentrations, officials say.

    In addition, while experienced marijuana users may limit their intake of potent marijuana, young and inexperienced users may not moderate their intake and possibly suffer from dysphoria, paranoia, irritability and other negative effects.

    Potent marijuana also poses significant risk to the developing adolescent brain, said Edward Jurith, acting director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy.

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    Increasing potency is leading to higher admissions to emergency rooms and drug treatment programs, officials say.


    The average THC for tested marijuana during 2008 was 10.1 percent, according to the government, compared to 1983 when it was reportedly under 4 percent.

    Even drugs seized at the United States' southwest border are showing increasing potency, the Office of National Drug Control Policy says. The median potency increased from 4.8 percent in 2003 to 7.3 percent in 2007. Marijuana from Mexico and other southern sources traditionally had lower THC content then other sources'.

    "The children I'm most worried about are children who are heavy users ... people who use it on a daily basis," said Dr. Lawrence Brain, a child psychiatrist in Maryland.

    Lloyd D. Johnston, a University of Michigan professor who has spent 35 years studying youth drug use, said youth marijuana use has fluctuated dramatically over that period.

    "One of the driving forces of that ... is the degree to which young people think that marijuana is dangerous," he said. "Perceived risk has usually been a leading indicator of changes."

    News about potency is not likely to change adolescents' behavior, Brain said.

    "I'm not advocating the use of marijuana at all," he said. "But in some ways, it is out there. ... Telling them it's 10 percent -- three times more potent than what their parents smoked -- is not an argument they are likely to buy into or to even utilize in any constructive sort of way.

    "I think they do what they do today. I don't think they consider or reflect on what it might have been like 30 years ago."


    The average potency of marijuana, which has risen steadily for three decades, has exceeded 10 percent for the first time, the U.S. government will report on Thursday.
  • pico
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    • 04-05-07
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    #2
    The average potency of marijuana, which has risen steadily for three decades, has exceeded 10 percent for the first time, the U.S. government will report on Thursday.
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    • 5 star bomb
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      • 10-12-07
      • 5370

      #3
      i got the purple, who wants to smoke?
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      • crisp
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        • 06-02-08
        • 1377

        #4
        i had some weed a few weeks ago and it fuked me up for over a week. it made me feel so weak and tired that i didn't even want to get out of bed and bet games. it was scary i think it might've been laced.
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        • Thor4140
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          • 02-09-08
          • 22296

          #5
          Originally posted by crisp
          i had some weed a few weeks ago and it fuked me up for over a week. it made me feel so weak and tired that i didn't even want to get out of bed and bet games. it was scary i think it might've been laced.
          sound to me it help ya if it kept u from betting games.
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          • Thor4140
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            • 02-09-08
            • 22296

            #6
            i can take two hits of dirt weed and get high as hell. How high do people need to get?
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            • RogueScholar
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              • 02-05-07
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              #7
              I aim for the stratosphere, Thor.
              Originally posted by StraitShooter
              90% of the guys dont give a shit about your problems..and the other 10 are glad you have them..
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              • Thor4140
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                • 02-09-08
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                #8
                Originally posted by RogueScholar
                I aim for the stratosphere, Thor.
                I want to be out of the country when u are aiming cowboy.
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                • ijustwant2bpaid
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                  • 11-11-08
                  • 3706

                  #9
                  damn kinda sad i have the most potent weed out there and i still cant get high off it. wierd how people act like weed is a drug.
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                  • smitch124
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                    • 05-19-08
                    • 12566

                    #10
                    Wow, those plants are such a bright green they are luminous. That's wheelchair stuff for sure
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                    • ryanspeer2001
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                      • 03-30-08
                      • 3149

                      #11
                      In that article they speak about how higher levels of THC have an opposite effect than lower levels.

                      Is this implying that if I smoke the same amount now, or in 6 years it will get me high now and sick later?
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                      • The General
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                        • 08-10-05
                        • 13279

                        #12
                        My experience with pot was fun until after 15 years of using I just started get to nervous and paranoid. Haven't quite figured that out, but glad I don't use anymore.
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                        • kmarinouofm
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                          #13
                          Hollar!!! I do

                          Originally posted by 5 star bomb
                          i got the purple, who wants to smoke?
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                          • jjgold
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                            • 07-20-05
                            • 388179

                            #14
                            I got panic attacks after I smoked so stopped myself and now use coke.
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                            • Doug
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                              • 08-10-05
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                              #15
                              It's so strong, you just smoke less ( but pay a lot for it). Take two bong hits instead of the 6 from decades ago, same difference really. I rarely touch it anymore.
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                              • The General
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                                • 08-10-05
                                • 13279

                                #16
                                I'm killing my Political career posting these life stories of mine.
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                                • RogueScholar
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                                  • 02-05-07
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by smitch124
                                  Wow, those plants are such a bright green they are luminous. That's wheelchair stuff for sure
                                  Actually Smitch, that's what we in the business call "Terri Schiavo Weed," as in the kind of stuff that'll leave you in a Persistent Vegetative State.
                                  Originally posted by StraitShooter
                                  90% of the guys dont give a shit about your problems..and the other 10 are glad you have them..
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                                  • ijustwant2bpaid
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                                    • 11-11-08
                                    • 3706

                                    #18
                                    the problem that u guys are facing about feeling paranoid and wierd goes away when u smoke on a regular basis, my daad smokes like once every few years and he always feels wierd also, personally i smoke every day and it calms me and helps with my back pain for sure... when i eat the weed food though i get seriously twisted, i cant eat it or i feel like a paranoid fukker.
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                                    • flyingillini
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                                      • 12-06-06
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by jjgold
                                      I got panic attacks after I smoked so stopped myself and now use coke.
                                      Good choice, nothing like coming home from work and lining up some big fat lines.
                                      המוסד‎
                                      המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים‎
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                                      • ijustwant2bpaid
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                                        • 11-11-08
                                        • 3706

                                        #20
                                        or not sleeping and lining them up right before u go to work the next day lol
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                                        • RogueScholar
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                                          • 02-05-07
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by ijustwant2bpaid
                                          the problem that u guys are facing about feeling paranoid and wierd goes away when u smoke on a regular basis, my daad smokes like once every few years and he always feels wierd also, personally i smoke every day and it calms me and helps with my back pain for sure... when i eat the weed food though i get seriously twisted, i cant eat it or i feel like a paranoid fukker.
                                          Very true. Weed used daily is a health tonic, used sporadically it's a drug. A very simple, yet subtle, distinction.
                                          Originally posted by StraitShooter
                                          90% of the guys dont give a shit about your problems..and the other 10 are glad you have them..
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                                          • kmarinouofm
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                                            • 01-26-09
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                                            #22
                                            especially off a high class hooker's ::


                                            Originally posted by flyingillini
                                            Good choice, nothing like coming home from work and lining up some big fat lines.
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                                            • ijustwant2bpaid
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                                              • 11-11-08
                                              • 3706

                                              #23
                                              ur in the bay area rs, are u a member od the buyers coop, if not i can give u the info, 150 for your card, doctors off franklin in oak town.
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                                              • jjgold
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                                                • 07-20-05
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by ijustwant2bpaid
                                                the problem that u guys are facing about feeling paranoid and wierd goes away when u smoke on a regular basis, my daad smokes like once every few years and he always feels wierd also, personally i smoke every day and it calms me and helps with my back pain for sure... when i eat the weed food though i get seriously twisted, i cant eat it or i feel like a paranoid fukker.

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                                                • RogueScholar
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                                                  • 02-05-07
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by ijustwant2bpaid
                                                  ur in the bay area rs, are u a member od the buyers coop, if not i can give u the info, 150 for your card, doctors off franklin in oak town.
                                                  Actually homey I'm on the other side, the supply chain up here in Mendo County. Are you in NorCal?
                                                  Originally posted by StraitShooter
                                                  90% of the guys dont give a shit about your problems..and the other 10 are glad you have them..
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                                                  • ijustwant2bpaid
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                                                    • 11-11-08
                                                    • 3706

                                                    #26
                                                    i just moved from the bay to san diego like 6 months ago, i thought u were in the bay for some reason, i thought the weed would be crap down here but it hasnt been to bad, kinda pricey but not too bad, i miss the bay though
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                                                    • ijustwant2bpaid
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                                                      • 11-11-08
                                                      • 3706

                                                      #27
                                                      mendos got some nice laws though, i think u caan have like 25 plants if im not mistaken, not bad at all, the mayor heres some ex cop, theres not even a god damn club for miles, closest ones in orannge county i think
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                                                      • WileOut
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                                                        • 02-04-07
                                                        • 3844

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                        i can take two hits of dirt weed and get high as hell. How high do people need to get?
                                                        This is what I'm saying. We use to get some regular weed and as a teenager I would only need 1 hit to get me where I was high and where I wanted to be. But my buddies wanted to roll blunt after blunt and hit gravity bong after gravity bong. I use to get so high I would not be able to feel myself breathing. I became use to the feeling of thinking I was dying.

                                                        So when I hit my 20's and started buying it on my own for myself, I would get the kind bud (with the white crystals on it), dry it out, and crumble it up to smoke in a joint. I know this is against the norm but I had a couple 100 dollar bags of the sticky stuff go moldy on me in the bag after I bought it. So I always dried it out instead. Plus I liked smoking joints better than out of a bowl.

                                                        So I started just smoking a half a joint but this would still get me way too high to be comfortable. It got to where I would roll a joint and take 1 hit off the thing and that was perfect. A small bag would last half a year.

                                                        Now any other drug....alcohol, cocaine, meth, any other drug I would drink or drug everyone else under the table. For some reason I was and assume still am very sensitive to weed.

                                                        Unfortunately now I am an opiate addict. I take (snort) subutex tablets daily. I got them to get off of oxycontin but its become a habit in itself. I just don't ever have to get sick because I have plenty. But I want off. But I cant. Every time I go down on dose I get nervous and insomnia. Its like methadone a living prison.
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                                                        • ijustwant2bpaid
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                                                          • 11-11-08
                                                          • 3706

                                                          #29
                                                          my doctor gives my oxys every month and im out and my appointments not till monday, i know how u feel man, not fun at all, i end up having to buy them and i cant even find any today, not fun at all... i would gut on subs but i dont want my doc to cut me off the oc's because im in so much pain every day, a catch 22.
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                                                          • RogueScholar
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                                                            • 02-05-07
                                                            • 5082

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by ijustwant2bpaid
                                                            mendos got some nice laws though, i think u caan have like 25 plants if im not mistaken, not bad at all, the mayor heres some ex cop, theres not even a god damn club for miles, closest ones in orannge county i think
                                                            It was that way for the longest time up here, but the voters changed it back to a dozen last summer. Honestly, it was a pro forma action, the law enforcement around here is still allowing 25 for every prescription.

                                                            Originally posted by WileOut
                                                            This is what I'm saying. We use to get some regular weed and as a teenager I would only need 1 hit to get me where I was high and where I wanted to be. But my buddies wanted to roll blunt after blunt and hit gravity bong after gravity bong. I use to get so high I would not be able to feel myself breathing. I became use to the feeling of thinking I was dying.

                                                            So when I hit my 20's and started buying it on my own for myself, I would get the kind bud (with the white crystals on it), dry it out, and crumble it up to smoke in a joint. I know this is against the norm but I had a couple 100 dollar bags of the sticky stuff go moldy on me in the bag after I bought it. So I always dried it out instead. Plus I liked smoking joints better than out of a bowl.

                                                            So I started just smoking a half a joint but this would still get me way too high to be comfortable. It got to where I would roll a joint and take 1 hit off the thing and that was perfect. A small bag would last half a year.

                                                            Now any other drug....alcohol, cocaine, meth, any other drug I would drink or drug everyone else under the table. For some reason I was and assume still am very sensitive to weed.

                                                            Unfortunately now I am an opiate addict. I take (snort) subutex tablets daily. I got them to get off of oxycontin but its become a habit in itself. I just don't ever have to get sick because I have plenty. But I want off. But I cant. Every time I go down on dose I get nervous and insomnia. Its like methadone a living prison.
                                                            Dude, I know that kind of dependency, I've spent years of my life battling it. If there's ever anything I can do to help you, just let me know. Likewise if you ever wanna party, you sound like my kind of guy.
                                                            Originally posted by StraitShooter
                                                            90% of the guys dont give a shit about your problems..and the other 10 are glad you have them..
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                                                            • WileOut
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                                                              • 02-04-07
                                                              • 3844

                                                              #31
                                                              Sorry bout the pain man. Ever think of getting on methadone? You won't run out because the clinic won't let you. Or you could get the doc to prescribe them but if so don't take more than prescribed because they are very strong and dangerous. Methadone is not like oxy. You take the methadone and feel it immediately, but then it keeps getting stronger and stronger until it peaks like 2 hours later. Many people keep taking it thinking its not going to do anything. Then they die.
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                                                              • WileOut
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                                                                • 02-04-07
                                                                • 3844

                                                                #32
                                                                RS I appreciate the offer of help. Its really me though. I have to make myself go through some discomfort if I want off.

                                                                And maybe we can party some day. I'm straight but it can just be for fun right?
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                                                                • ijustwant2bpaid
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                                                                  • 11-11-08
                                                                  • 3706

                                                                  #33
                                                                  ive just taken small amounts when im coming off oxys but never been properly diagnosed and prescribed by a doctor, thing is id be a fool to tell my doc to quit scripting me considering they go for so much, but oxy addiction blows for sure, but i really wish i had some now lol, i need to get some anyways cause if my doctor tests me and i dont come up dirty for oxy than there goes my script... i dont want to go to a clinic everyday either and they cost alot, im not sure if my doctor would even script me methadone though because right now im on oc's, lyrica, and valium and it took me so long to get here i dont think she would want to switch it up... u know how many **'s of methadone i would need for a 160-240 a day oc habit?
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                                                                  • The General
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                                                                    • 08-10-05
                                                                    • 13279

                                                                    #34
                                                                    The recovery process suks. The price we pay for what we have done I have to believe.

                                                                    Good luck to anyone who is seeking freedom from abuse.

                                                                    Thanks for sharing guys.
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                                                                    • ijustwant2bpaid
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                                                                      • 11-11-08
                                                                      • 3706

                                                                      #35
                                                                      TY general..
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