BetTrojan

**LGBoots** · 10-24-05, 04:43 AM

Originally posted by Quarm

Mike: i agree, everyone can chose if he wants the bonus or not.
Also you dont want bonus hunters to play with you, thats ok.

What i ment is just: keep it simple for the players that like your book, and like to get a bonus.
You know that rollover is the risk amount, thats why almost all big sportsbooks dont even post this rule.
All that Cris tells you f.e. is: "5x rollover", and its set.

You might scare away players with that rule, read through the threads about bonuses on this or on other forums - you will notice that many guys say "screw bonuses, i get confused with all those rules".

Peace

Rule is no problem to me though I can see that it could be confusing.

I've only had 2 bets with them but I think this book is going to be one of my favourites if they keep it low juice

Mike, one question, do wagering requirements carryover if you re-deposit after losing your previous deposit ?

**natty** · 10-24-05, 09:41 AM

AK- What's your problem dude? I thought I'd write my 2 cents to try and help out on this place. I'm someone who just joined over at the SBR forum after reading here and being a part of Sportsbookreview for a few years now.
If you wanna read about my validity, go over to bettorworld and read my posts (where I've been writing for 7 years now), otherwise, you need to chill man.
We're all in this thing together right? So you need to shut the hell up and let other's who have played speak there mind , whether good or bad.

natty

**why** · 10-24-05, 10:34 AM

rules

I don't mind any rule just as long as I can read it and I am told about it. I have never been asked to read the rules so often by a sportsbook, I believe the people over at Bet Trojan are real straight shooters and want the players to be treated fairly. A 20% bonus with -105 is a fantastic deal, 5x rollover risk or win, not that big of a deal. More importantly, you know about the rule beforehand.

Thanks for being upfront Bet Trojan

**JoshW** · 10-24-05, 10:49 AM

AK you might have gradually evolved out of your scamming youth, but for me your opinion still has almost no weight (as evidenced again by this thread).

TopCat/Trojan is solid (many years of no payout complaints, respected by other bookmakers in industry). Their offers are good. Try denying either of those two things in a meaningful way if you are going to attack them.

AK · 10-24-05, 11:08 AM

Originally posted by lakerfan

AK you might have gradually evolved out of your scamming youth, but for me your opinion still has almost no weight (as evidenced again by this thread).

TopCat/Trojan is solid (many years of no payout complaints, respected by other bookmakers in industry). Their offers are good. Try denying either of those two things in a meaningful way if you are going to attack them.

Lakersfan brings up a good point. In my book Lakers is solid and if he says Trojan is a book to play at so be it.

Trojan is a solid shop

**marc** · 10-24-05, 12:17 PM

Originally posted by Quarm

Those bonus rules are a bit confusing...why not keep it simple?
Also "the lower of the 2 numbers in a wager" counts as rollover = pure bullshit...

Rollover = what you put on the table, when will some books realize that? If you are scared of your own bonuses, make it a 7x rollover.
Its not 5x with this rule...

A number of sportsbooks use this method, including Hollywood. If you are using trojan for thei lay 105 (which I assume are the cusotmers they are looking for), then the 5x pretty much is a 5x roll.

Hand's down, Trojan's current offer is the bets offer out there right now.

AK · 10-24-05, 12:20 PM

Hand's down, Trojan's current offer is the bets offer out there right now.

That might be a little overboard though.

**why** · 10-24-05, 01:22 PM

very good offers

For the small denomination player:

RichCoastSports is still running deposit $100, get $100 cash bonus with a 5x rollover.

For larger denomination players a 20% bonus and -105 at Bet Trojan is very handsome.

Personally as a small amount player, I like them both.

I have not yet tried the waters at Bet Trojan but I like what I see and read.

**Bet Trojan** · 10-24-05, 01:32 PM

If you lose your deposit and are at 0 you start over again with next deposit having the 5x rule.

The next promo we have for bonuses will have the risk towards the rollover. That is a promise. I will adjust my bonus and rollover accordingly.

Thanks for all the great feedback.

Mike

AK · 10-24-05, 01:54 PM

RichCoastSports is still running deposit $100, get $100 cash bonus with a 5x rollover.

Very good shop.

I have them rated as a B+ book

**RoyBacon** · 10-24-05, 02:52 PM

I just started up with CHRIS this past weekend and they are great. The lowest book I joined was Bodog at A-. You guys are real gamblers to send hard earned money to small unknown bookies in central america.

**LGBoots** · 10-24-05, 03:45 PM

Originally posted by RoyBacon

I just started up with CHRIS this past weekend and they are great. The lowest book I joined was Bodog at A-. You guys are real gamblers to send hard earned money to small unknown bookies in central america.

Not really, I look at a books SBR rating + feedback from other punters before I take the plunge with a new sportsbook.

Betrojan might be a new book but it is Backed by 'Topcat' who have an unblemished track record & are highly thought of.

I'ts when you start playing with D rated books or lower (IMO) that the waters start to become murkier

**why** · 10-24-05, 05:28 PM

I will say this, Bet Trojan sure does everything to accommodate its players, certainly none of pseudo big name books would do this, under any circumstance.

Try giving Oly, Pinny or Cris a call and see if they will change a policy for you!

**Brick Tamland** · 10-24-05, 07:23 PM

Originally posted by why

For the small denomination player:

RichCoastSports is still running deposit $100, get $100 cash bonus with a 5x rollover.

For larger denomination players a 20% bonus and -105 at Bet Trojan is very handsome.

Personally as a small amount player, I like them both.

I have not yet tried the waters at Bet Trojan but I like what I see and read.

Why,

Did people keep asking you "Why?" and it just stuck?

I wouldn't play at Rich Coast with your money.

**pags11** · 10-25-05, 02:51 AM

good to see someone from betrojan here answering questions...still not too sure about these guys though...

**why** · 10-25-05, 01:24 PM

lol brick

I will play with your money if you would like to send some my way, "why not"? I like free money!

**why** · 10-25-05, 06:52 PM

don't make me look bad

I give these new books a better chance to succeed than proposed by many. One other cavaet which is hard to measure is the will of the new books, how bad do they want it, are their goals and expectations too high, can they stand a bad month, are they willing to fight for market share. All of which is good for players, albeit, if one goes south and you have money there you must pay the ultimate price.

One last note: The growth in this industry is mind boggling, yeah, there is room but you have to be willing to scratch and claw for every customer and that is the best news for those of us who are players and not bookmakers.

I wish all the "new" books the best of luck, may you be wise and clever, responsive and accomodating, articulate and cunning. Most of all, financially savy, and always save for a rainy day!

**freebie** · 10-25-05, 08:35 PM

Mike,
I signed up with bettrojan and never got a userID.
All I got was:
"YOur Login ID Is:"

but no ID shows to login?

**freebie** · 10-25-05, 08:36 PM

Plus I didn't get an email from trojan about userID or welcome message?

**why** · 10-26-05, 01:37 PM

freebie, why don't you call them.

**LGBoots** · 10-26-05, 04:30 PM

Site was working slow this morning (UK Time) But was working fine early PM .

Some nice NCAA prices as well

**kiwi** · 10-26-05, 06:25 PM

Hi, it seems the only currency they accept is USD, or do they support other currencies too?

Greetings
Jan

**Bet Trojan** · 10-26-05, 09:37 PM

Kiwi,

I will definitely look into the currency option on our software. I know it's there, but like everything, needs to be tested first before I can give you a definite answer. I'll be on it first thing in the morning and will post here when I know.

Mike

**why** · 10-27-05, 10:26 AM

Does your software allow for open teasers and/or parlays?

**Bet Trojan** · 10-27-05, 11:49 AM

We do allow open parlays and teasers. The open spots can be made on the internet. However for the time, they must be closed over the phone. I am working to see if I can get them to be closed via internet as well. Will keep you posted.

Thanks,
Mike

**Kaka** · 10-27-05, 02:46 PM

Hi Mike

How fast do you normally respond to emails? I have waited more than four hours now, don´t know if that is normal procedure or if my email is "lost in cybersapce"

**Bet Trojan** · 10-27-05, 02:50 PM

What was the email in regards to? We normally respond within 10 mins if not quicker. What email did you send it to?

Mike

**Kaka** · 10-27-05, 02:58 PM

it was sent to: support@topcatsports.com , and it was regarding you limits

I will try and sent it again witin the next few minuts

**Kaka** · 10-27-05, 03:11 PM

thanks for you quick reply on my second email.

**jumper** · 10-27-05, 04:22 PM

trojan has been good to me so far,only i have to wait until friday to redeposit if i want the bonus.if they are being positively discussed at sbr that lends alot of credibility

**Bet Trojan** · 10-27-05, 04:33 PM

I would love to get a visit from the SBR and be re evaluated. I know we're at least a B- book.

Also on my list is to get OSGA certified. I have no idea what to expect, but we'll soon find out.

Thanks again everyone for the feedback.

Mike

**pags11** · 10-28-05, 03:27 AM

good stuff Mike...

**why** · 10-28-05, 10:46 AM

OSGA means nothing to me, I would not waste my time.

**aje** · 10-28-05, 11:03 AM

Originally posted by freebie

Plus I didn't get an email from trojan about userID or welcome message?

I didn't get an email either.

**freebie** · 10-28-05, 11:11 AM

Now that I finally was able to resignup and got a userID. I can't login with the userID and password I registered with. I had to signup 3 times to get an userID and now I can't login.