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  • JBC77
    SBR MVP
    • 03-23-07
    • 3816

    #1
    Is it time to panic with this flu stuff yet?
    The cases in the U.S Mexico have doubled in 24 hrs. The schools have shut down and the government is set to shut down completely. Call me crazy but they are right next door to us. I really hope they contain this thing. If it starts to explode in a few states we could be right around the corner from outright panic. Runs on food, batteries, water. Especially if people die and the media hypes it........markets could tank.

    Yahoo

    WHO raises global alert level on swine flu

    WHO raises global alert level, signaling swine flu is spreading, but stops short of pandemic

    • E. Eduardo Castillo and Paul Haven, Associated Press Writers
    • On Monday April 27, 2009, 7:57 pm EDT




    MEXICO CITY (AP) -- The swine flu epidemic entered a dangerous new phase Monday as the death toll climbed in Mexico and the number of suspected cases there and in the United States nearly doubled. The World Health Organization raised its alert level but stopped short of declaring a global emergency.

    The United States advised Americans against most travel to Mexico and ordered stepped up border checks in neighboring states. The European Union health commissioner advised Europeans to avoid nonessential travel both to Mexico and parts of the United States.
    The virus poses a potentially grave new threat to the U.S. economy, which was showing tentative early signs of a recovery. A widespread outbreak could batter tourism, food and transportation industries, deepening the recession in the U.S. and possibly worldwide.
    The suspected number of deaths rose to 149 in Mexico, the epicenter of the outbreak with nearly 2,000 people believed to be infected.
    The number of U.S. cases doubled to 42, the result of further testing at a New York City school, although none was fatal. Other U.S. cases have been reported in Ohio, Kansas, Texas and California. Worldwide there were 73 cases, including six in Canada, one in Spain and two in Scotland.
    While the total cases were still measured in hundreds, not thousands, Mexican Health Secretary Jose Angel Cordova said the epidemic was entering an extremely dangerous phase, with the number of people infected mushrooming even as authorities desperately ramped up defenses.
    "We are in the most critical moment of the epidemic. The number of cases will keep rising, so we have to reinforce preventative measures," Cordova said at a news conference.
    The WHO raised the alert level to Phase 4, meaning there is sustained human-to-human transmission of the virus causing outbreaks in at least one country.
    Its alert system was revised after bird flu in Asia began to spread in 2004, and Monday was the first time it was raised above Phase 3.
    "At this time, containment is not a feasible option," as the virus has already spread to several other countries, said WHO Assistant Director-General Keiji Fukuda.
    Putting an alert at Phases 4 or 5 signals that the virus is becoming increasingly adept at spreading among humans. That move could lead governments to set trade, travel and other restrictions aimed at limiting its spread.
    Phase 6 is for a full-blown pandemic, characterized by outbreaks in at least two regions of the world.
    It could take 4-6 months before the first batch of vaccines are available to fight the virus, WHO officials said.
    Russia, Hong Kong and Taiwan said they would quarantine visitors showing symptoms of the virus amid global fears of a pandemic, an epidemic spread over a large area, either a region or worldwide.
    President Barack Obama said the outbreak was reason for concern, but not yet "a cause for alarm."
    Dr. Richard Besser, acting director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said that so far the virus in the United States seems less severe than in Mexico. Only one person has been hospitalized in the U.S.
    "I wouldn't be overly reassured by that," Besser told reporters at CDC headquarters in Atlanta, raising the possibility of more severe cases in the United States.
    "We are taking it seriously and acting aggressively," Besser said. "Until the outbreak has progressed, you really don't know what it's going to do."
    U.S. customs officials began checking people entering U.S. territory. Millions of doses of flu-fighting medications from a federal stockpile were on their way to states, with priority given to the five already affected and to border states. Federal agencies were conferring with state and international governments.
    "We want to make sure that we have equipment where it needs to be, people where they need to be and, most important, information shared at all levels," said Janet Napolitano, head of the Homeland Security Department.
    "We are proceeding as if we are preparatory to a full pandemic," Napolitano said.
    She said travel warnings for trips to Mexico would remain in place as long as swine flu is detected.
    Mexico canceled school at all levels nationwide until May 6, and the Mexico City government said it was considering a complete shutdown, including all public transportation, if the death toll keeps rising. Labor Secretary Javier Lozano Alarcon said employers should isolate anyone showing up for work with fever, cough, sore throat or other signs of the flu.
    Amid the warnings, the Mexican government grappled with increasing criticism of its response. At least two weeks after the first swine flu case, the government has yet to say where and how the outbreak began or give details on the victims.
    The health department lacked the staff to visit the homes of all those suspected to have died from the disease, Cordova said.
    Cordova said 1,995 people have been hospitalized with serious cases of pneumonia since the first case of swine flu was reported April 13. The government does not yet know how many were swine flu.
    He said tests show a 4-year-old boy contracted the virus before April 2 in Veracruz state, where a community has been protesting pollution from a large pig farm.
    The farm is run by Granjas Carroll de Mexico, a joint venture half owned by Virginia-based Smithfield Foods, Inc. Spokeswoman Keira Ullrich said the company has found no clinical signs or symptoms of the presence of swine flu in its herd or its employees working anywhere in Mexico.
    As if the country did not have enough to deal with, Cordova's comments were briefly interrupted by a 5.6-magnitude earthquake in southern Mexico that rattled already jittery nerves and sent mask-wearing office workers into the streets of the capital.
    Aside from the confirmed cases, 13 are suspected in New Zealand, and one is suspected in both France and Israel.
    European Union Health Commissioner Androulla Vassiliou advised Europeans to avoid nonessential travel to Mexico and parts of the United States, although Besser said that including the U.S. in the advisory seemed unwarranted at this time.
    State Department spokesman Robert A. Wood said Vassiliou's remarks were his "personal opinion," not an official EU position, and therefore the department had no comment.
    "We don't want people to panic at this point," Wood said.
    The U.S. stepped up checks of people entering the country by air, land and sea, and the State Department warned U.S. citizens to avoid nonessential travel to Mexico. It said those who live in Mexico should avoid hospitals or clinics there unless they have a medical emergency.
    The best way to keep the disease from spreading, Besser said, is by taking everyday precautions such as frequent handwashing, covering up coughs and sneezes, and staying away from work or school if not feeling well. He said authorities are not recommending that people wear masks at work because evidence that it is effective "is not that strong."
    Besser said about 11 million doses of flu-fighting drugs from a federal stockpile have been sent to states in case they are needed. That's roughly one quarter of the doses in the stockpile, he said.
    There is no vaccine available to prevent the specific strain now being seen, he said, but some antiflu drugs do work once someone is sick.
    If a new vaccine eventually is ordered, the CDC already has taken a key preliminary step -- creating what's called seed stock of the virus that manufacturers would use.
    Many of the cases outside Mexico have been relatively mild. Symptoms include a fever of more than 100, coughing, joint aches, severe headache and, in some cases, vomiting and diarrhea.
    European and U.S. markets bounced back from early losses as pharmaceutical stocks were lifted by expectations that health authorities will increase stockpiles of anti-viral drugs. Stocks of airlines, hotels and other travel-related companies posted sharper losses.
    WHO spokesman Peter Cordingley singled out air travel as an easy way the virus could spread, noting that the WHO estimates that up to 500,000 people are on planes at any time.
    Governments in Asia -- with potent memories of previous flu outbreaks -- were especially cautious. Singapore, Thailand, Japan, Indonesia and the Philippines dusted off thermal scanners used in the 2003 SARS crisis and were checking for signs of fever among passengers from North America. South Korea, India and Indonesia also announced screening.
    In Malaysia, health workers in face masks took the temperatures of passengers as they arrived on a flight from Los Angeles.
    China said anyone experiencing flu-like symptoms within two weeks of arrival had to report to authorities.
    China, Russia and Ukraine were among countries banning imports of pork and pork products from Mexico and three U.S. states that have reported swine flu cases, while other countries, such as Indonesia, banned all pork imports.
    The CDC says people cannot get the flu by eating pork or pork products.
    Germany's leading vacation tour operators were skipping stops in Mexico City as a precaution. The Hannover-based TUI said trips through May 4 to Mexico City were being suspended, including those operated by TUI itself and also through companies 1-2 Fly, Airtours, Berge & Meer, Grebeco and L'tur.
    Japan's largest tour agency, JTB Corp., suspended tours to Mexico through June 30. Russian travel agencies said about a third of those planning to travel to Mexico in early May had already canceled.
    WHO swine flu page: http://www.who.int/csr/disease/swineflu/en/index.html
  • Flyers09
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    • 04-13-09
    • 3666

    #2
    dont panic, it will fade off the media like anything else, give it 2 weeks
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    • losturmarbles
      SBR MVP
      • 07-01-08
      • 4604

      #3
      last year's crying wolf with the bird flu is not going to help people take it serious
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      • Flyers09
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        • 04-13-09
        • 3666

        #4
        Originally posted by losturmarbles
        last year's crying wolf with the bird flu is not going to help people take it serious


        i forgot all about that HAHA

        dude, thanks for the reminder
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        • Bluehorseshoe
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 07-13-06
          • 15018

          #5
          Gerald Ford already took care of us....

          RSS
          March 24, 1976: Ford Orders Swine-Flu Shots for All
          By Tony Long Email 03.24.08


          1976: President Gerald Ford orders a nationwide vaccination program to prevent a swine-flu epidemic.

          Ford was acting on the advice of medical experts, who believed they were dealing with a virus potentially as deadly as the one that caused the 1918 Spanish influenza pandemic.

          The virus surfaced in February at Fort Dix, New Jersey, where 19-year-old Pvt. David Lewis told his drill instructor that he felt tired and weak, although not sick enough to skip a training hike. Lewis was dead with 24 hours.

          The autopsy revealed that Lewis had been killed by "swine flu," an influenza virus originating in pigs. By then several other soldiers had been hospitalized with symptoms. Government doctors became alarmed when they discovered that at least 500 soldiers on the base were infected without becoming ill.

          It recalled 1918, when infected soldiers returning from the trenches of World War I triggered a contagion that spread quickly around the world, killing at least 20 million people. Fearing another plague, the nation's health officials urged Ford to authorize a mass inoculation program aimed at reaching every man, woman and child. He did, to the tune of $135 million ($500 million in today's money).

          Mass vaccinations started in October, but within weeks reports started coming in of people developing Guillain-Barré syndrome, a paralyzing nerve disease, right after taking the shot. Within two months, 500 people were affected, and more than 30 died. Amid a rising uproar and growing public reluctance to risk the shot, federal officials abruptly canceled the program Dec. 16.

          In the end, 40 million Americans were inoculated, and there was no epidemic. A later, more technically advanced examination of the virus revealed that it was nowhere near as deadly as the 1918 influenza virus. The only recorded fatality from swine flu itself was the unfortunate Pvt. Lewis.

          History's verdict of the program is mixed. Critics assail Ford, accusing him of grandstanding during an election year -- it did him no good, because he lost anyway -- while kowtowing to the pharmaceutical companies. Supporters laud the ability of the nation's health bureaucracy to mobilize so effectively.

          Those who remembered 1918 probably consider it money well spent.

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          • Flyers09
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            • 04-13-09
            • 3666

            #6
            Thanks blue
            "A later, more technically advanced examination of the virus revealed that it was nowhere near as deadly as the 1918 influenza virus. The only recorded fatality from swine flu itself was the unfortunate Pvt. Lewis"

            thay Pvt. proly just had a weak immune system
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            • Bluehorseshoe
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 07-13-06
              • 15018

              #7
              Originally posted by Flyers09
              Thanks blue
              "A later, more technically advanced examination of the virus revealed that it was nowhere near as deadly as the 1918 influenza virus. The only recorded fatality from swine flu itself was the unfortunate Pvt. Lewis"

              thay Pvt. proly just had a weak immune system
              I was half ass kidding. This is a different version of that strain.
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              • Flyers09
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                • 04-13-09
                • 3666

                #8
                Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe
                I was half ass kidding. This is a different version of that strain.
                like it matters, ill believe this whole swine BS when i start seeing more then lets say...3 people die in the US
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                • frostno98
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 09-11-07
                  • 9769

                  #9
                  I wonder if this is going to effect offshore gambling very soon, considering most of the sportsbook homebased is in Central America.
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                  • Bluehorseshoe
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 07-13-06
                    • 15018

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Flyers09
                    like it matters, ill believe this whole swine BS when i start seeing more then lets say...3 people die in the US

                    I'm surprised more of this stuff doesn't come out of Mexico. Think about it, you can't drink the water because fecal matter has contaminated it. It's not the most sanitary place in the world.

                    I went to the zoo in Mexico City and they had rats the size of chihuahuas running all over the place.
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                    • Flyers09
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                      • 04-13-09
                      • 3666

                      #11
                      Originally posted by frostno98
                      I wonder if this is going to effect offshore gambling very soon, considering most of the sportsbook homebased is in Central America.

                      haha

                      a week from now, we will all go into our books accounts, and they will all be shut down, due to the swine...now that would be hirlarious
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                      • Flyers09
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                        • 04-13-09
                        • 3666

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe
                        I'm surprised more of this stuff doesn't come out of Mexico. Think about it, you can't drink the water because fecal matter has contaminated it. It's not the most sanitary place in the world.

                        I went to the zoo in Mexico City and they had rats the size of chihuahuas running all over the place.
                        omg! id run if i witnessed that!

                        im sure they do, the media just covers a lot b/c the govt. makes them keep it quiet....
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                        • BatemanPatrickl
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 06-21-07
                          • 18772

                          #13
                          My girls works for a large hospital system and so far no e-mails have been sent out on the Swine Flu. I will keep you guys updated.
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                          • Flyers09
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                            • 04-13-09
                            • 3666

                            #14
                            Originally posted by BatemanPatrickl
                            My girls works for a large hospital system and so far no e-mails have been sent out on the Swine Flu. I will keep you guys updated.
                            yeh we would appreciate that bro, but i think its safe to say there will be no emails, its another hyped up "flu" to get ppl like us to talk about it...
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                            • MonkeyF0cker
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 06-12-07
                              • 12144

                              #15
                              I'm not concerned. Call me an asshole but I actually hope something like this wipes out a significant portion of the population on Earth. Something needs to happen. There are far too many people inhabiting this planet and it will only continue to get worse. I really don't think it will affect most people anyway. Many have recovered from it so far.
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                              • Flyers09
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                                • 04-13-09
                                • 3666

                                #16
                                Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
                                I'm not concerned. Call me an asshole but I actually hope something like this wipes out a significant portion of the population on Earth. Something needs to happen. There are far too many people inhabiting this planet and it will only continue to get worse. I really don't think it will affect most people anyway. Many have recovered from it so far.

                                i agree, lets it wipe out the whole country except for all sbr posters and there families

                                oh and let all hot females live
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                                • pico
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 04-05-07
                                  • 27321

                                  #17
                                  i blame the jews.
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                                  • Flyers09
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                                    • 04-13-09
                                    • 3666

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by pico
                                    i blame the jews.

                                    i blame the africans, germans, jews
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                                    • pico
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 04-05-07
                                      • 27321

                                      #19
                                      the world is kinda over populated.

                                      a world wide epidemic is kind of mother nature's way of reduce some excess weight.
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                                      • Flyers09
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                                        • 04-13-09
                                        • 3666

                                        #20
                                        we need a resident evil break out....that would be fun to defend against
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                                        • pico
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 04-05-07
                                          • 27321

                                          #21
                                          no matter what happens, the poor will always die first.
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                                          • pico
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 04-05-07
                                            • 27321

                                            #22
                                            ^^^i hope that answer RS's question, would you rather be poor and happy or rich and miserable.
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                                            • Flyers09
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                                              • 04-13-09
                                              • 3666

                                              #23
                                              LOL hahahahahah
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                                              • Willie Bee
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                                                • 02-14-06
                                                • 15726

                                                #24
                                                Ignorance knows no bounds.
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                                                • jjgold
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                  • 388179

                                                  #25
                                                  So many alarmists, not enough realists.

                                                  LOL it is not like there are 200, 000 cases in USA

                                                  50,000 a year die from the regular flu in USA

                                                  Get real
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                                                  • BatemanPatrickl
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 06-21-07
                                                    • 18772

                                                    #26
                                                    Yes but this the the SWINE flu. Plenty of pig like people in America.
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                                                    • Willie Bee
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 02-14-06
                                                      • 15726

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by BatemanPatrickl
                                                      Yes but this the the SWINE flu. Plenty of pig like people in America.
                                                      A lot of them root for the Redskins.



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                                                      • BatemanPatrickl
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 06-21-07
                                                        • 18772

                                                        #28
                                                        Maybe they should quarantine DC?
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                                                        • donjuan
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 08-29-07
                                                          • 3993

                                                          #29
                                                          In general, people aren't taking this seriously enough. The irony is that the more seriously people take it, the less chance there is of it becoming a pandemic and vice-versa. It's still <50% chance of becoming a full on pandemic, and we also don't know exactly how contagious it is and what the kill rate is. However, the real danger is in the mutations and the more people who get it, the more chances it has to mutate.
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                                                          • Flyers09
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                                                            • 04-13-09
                                                            • 3666

                                                            #30
                                                            they need to worry bout fast food and americas obesity, rather then this "swine" flu
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                                                            • Flyers09
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                                                              • 04-13-09
                                                              • 3666

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by donjuan
                                                              In general, people aren't taking this seriously enough. The irony is that the more seriously people take it, the less chance there is of it becoming a pandemic and vice-versa. It's still <50% chance of becoming a full on pandemic, and we also don't know exactly how contagious it is and what the kill rate is. However, the real danger is in the mutations and the more people who get it, the more chances it has to mutate.

                                                              50%?

                                                              ill believe its that close when i see more cases of ppl dying int he usa
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                                                              • BatemanPatrickl
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 06-21-07
                                                                • 18772

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by donjuan
                                                                In general, people aren't taking this seriously enough. The irony is that the more seriously people take it, the less chance there is of it becoming a pandemic and vice-versa. It's still <50% chance of becoming a full on pandemic, and we also don't know exactly how contagious it is and what the kill rate is. However, the real danger is in the mutations and the more people who get it, the more chances it has to mutate.
                                                                How should people take this more seriously Doogie Howser? Stockpile medications? Stay in our homes? Wear masks everywhere? Kill and burn the infected?

                                                                I am curious...
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                                                                • ijustwant2bpaid
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                                                                  • 11-11-08
                                                                  • 3706

                                                                  #33
                                                                  i have a case like five minutes from my house and i live under 30 from the border, time to worry i think!!!!!!
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                                                                  • Willie Bee
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 02-14-06
                                                                    • 15726

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by donjuan
                                                                    In general, people aren't taking this seriously enough. The irony is that the more seriously people take it, the less chance there is of it becoming a pandemic and vice-versa. It's still <50% chance of becoming a full on pandemic, and we also don't know exactly how contagious it is and what the kill rate is. However, the real danger is in the mutations and the more people who get it, the more chances it has to mutate.
                                                                    DonJuan, please refrain from injecting anything intelligent into this thread. Thank you.

                                                                    Originally posted by flyers09
                                                                    they need to worry bout fast food and americas obesity, rather then this "swine" flu
                                                                    You can cure the flu, or at least take steps to keeping it contained and lessen the effects of the malady. But as Ron White has noted before, "You can't fix stupid."
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                                                                    • donjuan
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 08-29-07
                                                                      • 3993

                                                                      #35
                                                                      50%?

                                                                      ill believe its that close when i see more cases of ppl dying int he usa
                                                                      Reading comprehension fail.
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