Did Josh Hamilton Have A Fluke Year??

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  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #1
    Did Josh Hamilton Have A Fluke Year??
    He really did nothing after the all star break last year and do nothing this year, was he a flash in the pan??
  • Bostongambler
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    • 02-01-08
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    #2
    Did you?
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    • theboozer
      SBR Hustler
      • 11-23-08
      • 71

      #3
      I don't think so jj. He's got 10 RBI's so far this year in 15 games. I'm guessing he'll starting heating up soo...
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      • diogee
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 01-11-08
        • 19477

        #4
        Yeah for sure JJ. Only 2 weeks into the season and he has been bothered by a ribcage injury.
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        • The_Kid
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 02-09-08
          • 5049

          #5
          He'll turn it around. Baseball is a long season. You can't determine his play in the first two weeks.
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          • fiveteamer
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            • 04-14-08
            • 10805

            #6
            I think he's back on the crack. Jesus told him to go back to the crack.
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            • pico
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              • 04-05-07
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              #7
              Originally posted by fiveteamer
              I think he's back on the crack. Jesus told him to go back to the crack.


              i think he wasn't the same after he blew the home run contest. fvcking stupid. either hit as many home run as you can or trying to win it. he failed at both.
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              • Tsoprano
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                • 04-14-08
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                #8
                Josh Hamilton hasn't been smoking as much weed lately and it has affected his game
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                • DFoster
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                  • 03-02-09
                  • 712

                  #9
                  The guy is probably the most talented guy in the American League...and almost every major leaguer will say the same...the guy is fine, just wait.
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                  • Dexter
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                    • 12-24-08
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by jjgold
                    He really did nothing after the all star break last year and do nothing this year, was he a flash in the pan??
                    2 weeks into the season and your judging a player already?

                    he really did "nothing" after the all star break? did you expect him to again go for 21 homers and 95 rbi's? not sure how well you follow baseball, but many arent aware that post all star game there were just 63 games (compared to 93 in the first half). he was 296/11/35 after the all star game, but again that was only in 63 games (not 82 as many assume).

                    if you truly follow baseball (not sure if you do) i dont think you can say that one of the more naturally talented players to come into the league in years was a "flash in the pan." especially considering we are 2 weeks into the new season, and his 2nd half numbers 08 were not even that bad.
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                    • Dexter
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                      • 12-24-08
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by fiveteamer
                      I think he's back on the crack. Jesus told him to go back to the crack.
                      Originally posted by Tsoprano
                      Josh Hamilton hasn't been smoking as much weed lately and it has affected his game
                      solid stuff
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                      • danrman
                        SBR MVP
                        • 08-30-08
                        • 2696

                        #12
                        he'll make the adjustment but not quickly.. swings at waaaaaaaaaaaaay toooooooooooo many 1st pitches.. he really doesnt have hitting figured out yet... alot of ability but not much maturity
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                        • Dexter
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                          • 12-24-08
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by danrman
                          he'll make the adjustment but not quickly.. swings at waaaaaaaaaaaaay toooooooooooo many 1st pitches.. he really doesnt have hitting figured out yet... alot of ability but not much maturity
                          so you think he has the potential to hit even betten then 305 last year?

                          he does swing at a lot of first pitches, but thats fine when your a run producing power hitter.

                          scary, but he prob can hit 315+. last year was only his FIRST full season in the bigs.
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                          • jjgold
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 07-20-05
                            • 388179

                            #14
                            Originally posted by pico


                            i think he wasn't the same after he blew the home run contest. fvcking stupid. either hit as many home run as you can or trying to win it. he failed at both.
                            Exactly, you know the game Pico.
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                            • Nicky Santoro
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                              • 04-08-08
                              • 16103

                              #15
                              alot of hr hitters don't hit as many hr's because of the Arod saga.. now players have stopped hitting hr's and have also stopped taking roids.. watch how the hr guys this year won't put up the same hr #'s as the last 1-5 yrs.. players have stopped taking them in fear of getting caught like arod, bonds, and co...
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                              • Dexter
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                                • 12-24-08
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by jjgold
                                Exactly, you know the game Pico.
                                wow - lol

                                again bud - each half of baseball is not 82 games.

                                for every one guy that the hr derby may affect, how many other hitters continue to crush the ball?

                                its a lame excuse for people who want to always find something to blame.

                                players slump - but in hamiltons case, he wasnt really that bad in the second half.

                                of course he didnt post identical numbers on avg from the first half, but that regression had to be expected after a historical first half.
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                                • Nicky Santoro
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                                  • 04-08-08
                                  • 16103

                                  #17
                                  every game i watch of bobby abreu, the announcers always say, since bobby abreu won the HR contest, he hasn't been the same.. he has completely stopped hitting hr's..
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                                  • Dexter
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                                    • 12-24-08
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
                                    every game i watch of bobby abreu, the announcers always say, since bobby abreu won the HR contest, he hasn't been the same.. he has completely stopped hitting hr's..
                                    do you truly think that the HR derby has affected abreu for years following?

                                    i can understand a few weeks after the competition - but cmon.

                                    half of these announcers are clueless...
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                                    • jjgold
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 07-20-05
                                      • 388179

                                      #19
                                      He still is struggling even after the injury, I am starting to think it was a fluke
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                                      • CashMoney
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                                        • 01-07-08
                                        • 1982

                                        #20
                                        He's just in a funk. He'll be fine.
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                                        • jjgold
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 07-20-05
                                          • 388179

                                          #21
                                          He has a great swing, he should be hitting better.
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                                          • flyingillini
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                                            • 12-06-06
                                            • 41219

                                            #22
                                            I think it was a fluke, god bless
                                            המוסד‎
                                            המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים‎
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                                            • seaborneq
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 09-08-06
                                              • 22556

                                              #23
                                              Fluke, fluke, and double fluke. Hamilton will never hit 30+ homers again. Today's version of Brady Anderson.
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                                              • thebestthereis
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 03-01-09
                                                • 11459

                                                #24
                                                No more roids
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                                                • jjgold
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                  • 388179

                                                  #25
                                                  Good point about Roids
                                                  He might of been one also
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                                                  • AMBlai01
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 09-16-08
                                                    • 5882

                                                    #26
                                                    Hes still hurt dude....still getting back into shape...give him a chance. He has more talent than possibly anyone in baseball he will be fine.
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                                                    • jkrap27
                                                      SBR Hustler
                                                      • 02-20-09
                                                      • 75

                                                      #27
                                                      tis no fluke. you must not rebuke.

                                                      Texas Rangers '09 Playoffs Baby!
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                                                      • buffettgambler
                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                        • 06-19-07
                                                        • 26

                                                        #28
                                                        The disparity between Hamilton this year compared to the previous last two years is probably a product of a few things. Firstly, his true production worth is/was probably below the rate he was producing the last couple of years, but higher than this years productions. Regression off of last years numbers should not come of a suprise, but the amount in which it has come off should raise concern.

                                                        One would expect pitchers to know how to pitch to Hamilton better as they gain more information about his strengths and weaknesses. Hamilton's most productive pitch is the fastball. It is to no suprise that teams are throwing last fastballs to him, as he is seeing about 7% less fastballs in echange for more sliders and curves. One should probably expect a temporary dropoff from this variable alone until he adjusts.

                                                        Two concerns for Hamilton is the notion that his main struggles this year have come from right handed pitchers and signs that there may be a potential structial change in his swing (which could have been caused by the home run derby). Signs of the latter are the following: his home runs per hit and doubles per hit have increased during this down year, but his singles per hit have decreased signficantly. This is a sign that he may be trying to hit home runs and not go with the pitch (especially when accompanied with seeing less fastballs). Secondly, and similarly to Abreu, his home runs per flyball hit have been cut in half this year, a deficiency that has resulted in a few home run derby victims in the past.

                                                        It is probably too early (too small of a sample) to judge Hamiltons regression and try to determine whether there is a true structual change in his productive capacity. My guess is we probably have seen the worst of Hamilton this season, but expecting numbers similar to last year may be wishful thinking.
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                                                        • baller555
                                                          SBR Rookie
                                                          • 07-23-09
                                                          • 20

                                                          #29
                                                          he's a great player
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                                                          • CashMoney
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 01-07-08
                                                            • 1982

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by baller555
                                                            he's a great player
                                                            ....and great players adjust to the pitchers adjustements and he'll get hot. It's a contract year as well.............
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                                                            • jjgold
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 07-20-05
                                                              • 388179

                                                              #31
                                                              I like him and hope he does well, he just goes 0-4 so much now.
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                                                              • CashMoney
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 01-07-08
                                                                • 1982

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                I like him and hope he does well, he just goes 0-4 so much now.
                                                                Like him to. He's that much more impressive when you consider that he pretty much went straight to the show.
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                                                                • MexicanStallion
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 09-08-08
                                                                  • 20429

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I don't think Hamilton had a fluke year. I think he is legit, but not sure where his true numbers are. I was crushed when the Reds traded Hamilton. Instead kept Dunn and traded him a few months into the next season. I would give Volquez back in a heartbeat
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                                                                  • seaborneq
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 09-08-06
                                                                    • 22556

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I am waiting on his 2003 results to come out. I know he had to have some illegal drugs in him if not PED's.
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                                                                    • seaborneq
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 09-08-06
                                                                      • 22556

                                                                      #35
                                                                      The drunk man cometh forward. Drunk and Flukey.
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