Here are some numbers from an actual casino on strip last night. Slot hold 1.4 mil Table game hold 1.9 mil. Do you still really think a 400k liability on NE winning outright makes a difference to bottom line?
Vegas with a Position on Championship Games?
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Grits n' GravyRestricted User
- 06-10-10
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#71Comment -
CapybaraSBR Posting Legend
- 08-17-08
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#72As a Pats fan (and possibly bettor but probably won't bother), I'm very worried about this Vegas position! I was already petrified about the raping that is 1,000% sure to come from the refs if the game is even remotely close. Hochuli sucks to begin with, and likely he and his crew will be tossing phantom PI calls against our corners late in the game, or phantom OPI calls on legal rub plays... something, for sure.
But with Vegas so locked into the Broncos, I'm having even more nightmare fantasies about how this could play out. Basically, Pats need to step on them early.Comment -
rake922SBR Posting Legend
- 12-23-07
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#73Comment -
italianbanditSBR MVP
- 05-17-11
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#742 team teaser. Ariz +9.5; Denver +10.Comment -
italianbanditSBR MVP
- 05-17-11
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#75Actually, I decided to pay extra:
2 team teaser
Zona +10
Broncos + 10.5Comment -
getlucky2winSBR MVP
- 01-14-12
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#76vegas doesnt take positions on gms anymore. casinos dont want to gamble. im sure their action is fairly even or they would move the lineComment -
getlucky2winSBR MVP
- 01-14-12
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#78you're wrongComment -
italianbanditSBR MVP
- 05-17-11
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#79Vegas don't run the sports betting show anymore.
"While nearly $4 billion is bet on sports legally in Las Vegas yearly, an estimated $80 billion to $380 billion is wagered illegally through a shadow industry of offshore online betting houses," Washington Post. Those are based off of 2014 stats.
KVB is correct.Comment -
getlucky2winSBR MVP
- 01-14-12
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#81exactly my point. pinny might take a position but vegas tries not to. i used to work at caesars sportsbook and they are buncha pansies. why would they pull teasers if they wanted actionComment -
KVBSBR Aristocracy
- 05-29-14
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#82Agreed, times have changed but the marketplace as a whole feeds off of itself. Pinny and Vegas not all that far apart when it comes to closing numbers (prices excluded).Comment -
italianbanditSBR MVP
- 05-17-11
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#83Perhaps casinos are more conservative but they are still taking positions.Comment -
YoungGamblerSBR MVP
- 09-15-14
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#84Broncos lines dropping like crazy. ANyone see thisComment -
getlucky2winSBR MVP
- 01-14-12
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#85i shouldnt say all of vegas because some books are sharper than others. westgate may have 3 while stations 3.5 but most these casinos dont want alot of exposure even if they are on the sharp side. there objective is to collect juice. hell they limit max bets on table games where they know they have edge. not like the old days where binions would let u bet millions on pass lineComment -
KVBSBR Aristocracy
- 05-29-14
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#86Certain groups are making their move...
I'm on Denver most of this week, all kinds of positions. Win or lose, this is the bet I must make. My forecasts show Denver winning 24-21 and while there is reason it could be wrong, it's the sharp way to go for a few market reasons, including the projection. I’m not surprised the early opener of 3.5 moved to 3 and am also not surprised the 44.5 was static so long before moving onto 45. My “raw” predictions went to 47 and others a little higher. The total line is very sharp but I feel the game spread is off. It could be a trap for some groups of bettors...Comment -
El NinoSBR Posting Legend
- 05-03-12
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#87Wow, New England -3 (+110) was available right before kickoff on BookMaker/HeritageLate money on Denver.
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KVBSBR Aristocracy
- 05-29-14
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#88That money was sharp coming from certain groups. They are consistent with my predictions but we don't have to win.Comment -
R.P. McMurphySBR Hall of Famer
- 06-15-12
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#89Carolina -2.5 @-108 1h for me also on Pats ml live +135 just a unit each so far. Bol everyone!Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
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#91Vegas going to win big on the first gameComment -
pilebuck13SBR Posting Legend
- 05-15-15
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#92Big man gronk can't breath officiating was nothing to do with this Denver was sharp hope u didn't go New England ml coachComment -
TheLockSBR Posting Legend
- 04-06-08
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#94If you want a stress free Sunday just play both dogs on the money line for 1 unit each.
Worst case scenario is you lose 2 units. Big friggin deal.
If one dog wins you make money.
Both dogs win and its wine and roses.
Me personally, I have Broncos +3 +100 and Cardinals +3 -105 for 2 units each. I want some stress tomorrow.
Stress free, boys.
Stress free.Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
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#95Carolina look sharp we could be in troubleComment -
TheMoneyShotBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 02-14-07
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#96
ELwhy you gotta call me out like that?
Well... 2 ways to look at this. Martingale the 2 favs... or 2 underdogs. Could you see New England VS Carolina in the Super Bowl? Both great teams... 1 probably going to end up there.. right? Then Martingale -3 each. First game wins... BOOM... you're done. Enjoy the $
Could you see Denver or Arizona in the Super Bowl? Then take both doggies. Just like you said... Vegas might get buried if both favorites win.
I can't see both dogs winning. I can't see both favorites winning. Martingale approach... and don't mind fuk this too much like The Giant said.
But for anyone who's trying to cash in both without Martingale approach... it's not worth it. Waste of time.
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Hope everyone cashed!Comment -
El NinoSBR Posting Legend
- 05-03-12
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#97Lost Pats bets, Cards teaser, hammered Panthers ML. Break even-ish. Better than a total burial. Broncos pass rush was insane. They didn't tire the whole game. Brady couldn't gain yds when it mattered. Was very lucky on a few passes.Comment -
El NinoSBR Posting Legend
- 05-03-12
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#98Vid I shot while crossing into NV. I sent it to BIGDAY to post yesterday, but he is a
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TheMoneyShotBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 02-14-07
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#99Some websites claim Pinnacle went to New England -3 (+118) just before Kick. That's just crazy. Almost telling you who to take. Don't recall ever a line like that winning.Comment -
KVBSBR Aristocracy
- 05-29-14
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#100
There's a learning curve on which you have just begun to ride, regardless of how long you've been betting.
Start with the basics, track your bets and why you made them, and try to understand why the line opens where it does and why it moves to where it does.
Good Luck.
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