Vegas with a Position on Championship Games?

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  • Grits n' Gravy
    Restricted User
    • 06-10-10
    • 13024

    #71
    Here are some numbers from an actual casino on strip last night. Slot hold 1.4 mil Table game hold 1.9 mil. Do you still really think a 400k liability on NE winning outright makes a difference to bottom line?
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    • Capybara
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 08-17-08
      • 11803

      #72
      As a Pats fan (and possibly bettor but probably won't bother), I'm very worried about this Vegas position! I was already petrified about the raping that is 1,000% sure to come from the refs if the game is even remotely close. Hochuli sucks to begin with, and likely he and his crew will be tossing phantom PI calls against our corners late in the game, or phantom OPI calls on legal rub plays... something, for sure.

      But with Vegas so locked into the Broncos, I'm having even more nightmare fantasies about how this could play out. Basically, Pats need to step on them early.
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      • rake922
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 12-23-07
        • 11692

        #73
        Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
        Honestly... whoever wins... all good match ups for the Super Bowl

        Only match up that would suck for me... Arizona VS New England. Just seems boring as fuk.

        I agree.. powerhouse match up... Carolina VS New England.
        how the hell is arizona vs New England boring....
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        • italianbandit
          SBR MVP
          • 05-17-11
          • 2622

          #74
          2 team teaser. Ariz +9.5; Denver +10.
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          • italianbandit
            SBR MVP
            • 05-17-11
            • 2622

            #75
            Actually, I decided to pay extra:

            2 team teaser
            Zona +10
            Broncos + 10.5
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            • getlucky2win
              SBR MVP
              • 01-14-12
              • 1120

              #76
              vegas doesnt take positions on gms anymore. casinos dont want to gamble. im sure their action is fairly even or they would move the line
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              • KVB
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 05-29-14
                • 74817

                #77
                Originally posted by getlucky2win
                vegas doesnt take positions on gms anymore. casinos dont want to gamble. im sure their action is fairly even or they would move the line
                I know otherwise.




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                • getlucky2win
                  SBR MVP
                  • 01-14-12
                  • 1120

                  #78
                  you're wrong
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                  • italianbandit
                    SBR MVP
                    • 05-17-11
                    • 2622

                    #79
                    Vegas don't run the sports betting show anymore.

                    "While nearly $4 billion is bet on sports legally in Las Vegas yearly, an estimated $80 billion to $380 billion is wagered illegally through a shadow industry of offshore online betting houses," Washington Post. Those are based off of 2014 stats.

                    KVB is correct.
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                    • KVB
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 05-29-14
                      • 74817

                      #80
                      Originally posted by getlucky2win
                      you're wrong
                      Like I always say, it's not that bettors don't know, it's that so much they know is wrong.

                      Don't be afraid to learn getlucky.

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                      • getlucky2win
                        SBR MVP
                        • 01-14-12
                        • 1120

                        #81
                        exactly my point. pinny might take a position but vegas tries not to. i used to work at caesars sportsbook and they are buncha pansies. why would they pull teasers if they wanted action
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                        • KVB
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 05-29-14
                          • 74817

                          #82
                          Originally posted by getlucky2win
                          exactly my point. pinny might take a position but vegas tries not to. i used to work at caesars sportsbook and they are buncha pansies. why would they pull teasers if they wanted action
                          Agreed, times have changed but the marketplace as a whole feeds off of itself. Pinny and Vegas not all that far apart when it comes to closing numbers (prices excluded).
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                          • italianbandit
                            SBR MVP
                            • 05-17-11
                            • 2622

                            #83
                            Perhaps casinos are more conservative but they are still taking positions.
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                            • YoungGambler
                              SBR MVP
                              • 09-15-14
                              • 1744

                              #84
                              Broncos lines dropping like crazy. ANyone see this
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                              • getlucky2win
                                SBR MVP
                                • 01-14-12
                                • 1120

                                #85
                                i shouldnt say all of vegas because some books are sharper than others. westgate may have 3 while stations 3.5 but most these casinos dont want alot of exposure even if they are on the sharp side. there objective is to collect juice. hell they limit max bets on table games where they know they have edge. not like the old days where binions would let u bet millions on pass line
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                                • KVB
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 05-29-14
                                  • 74817

                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by YoungGambler
                                  Broncos lines dropping like crazy. ANyone see this
                                  Certain groups are making their move...

                                  Originally posted by KVB
                                  I'm on Denver most of this week, all kinds of positions. Win or lose, this is the bet I must make. My forecasts show Denver winning 24-21 and while there is reason it could be wrong, it's the sharp way to go for a few market reasons, including the projection. I’m not surprised the early opener of 3.5 moved to 3 and am also not surprised the 44.5 was static so long before moving onto 45. My “raw” predictions went to 47 and others a little higher. The total line is very sharp but I feel the game spread is off. It could be a trap for some groups of bettors...
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                                  • El Nino
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 05-03-12
                                    • 18426

                                    #87
                                    Wow, New England -3 (+110) was available right before kickoff on BookMaker/Heritage Late money on Denver.
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                                    • KVB
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 05-29-14
                                      • 74817

                                      #88
                                      That money was sharp coming from certain groups. They are consistent with my predictions but we don't have to win.
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                                      • R.P. McMurphy
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 06-15-12
                                        • 9654

                                        #89
                                        Carolina -2.5 @-108 1h for me also on Pats ml live +135 just a unit each so far. Bol everyone!
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                                        • El Nino
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 05-03-12
                                          • 18426

                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by R.P. McMurphy
                                          Carolina -2.5 @-108 1h for me also on Pats ml live +135 just a unit each so far. Bol everyone!
                                          BOL McMurphyer! Juiced +3.5 here at Aria for the Cards. Bird gang in the house. Book is packed.
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                                          • jjgold
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 07-20-05
                                            • 388179

                                            #91
                                            Vegas going to win big on the first game
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                                            • pilebuck13
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 05-15-15
                                              • 17918

                                              #92
                                              Big man gronk can't breath officiating was nothing to do with this Denver was sharp hope u didn't go New England ml coach
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                                              • italianbandit
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 05-17-11
                                                • 2622

                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by italianbandit
                                                Actually, I decided to pay extra:

                                                2 team teaser
                                                Zona +10
                                                Broncos + 10.5
                                                Sorry to Pat backers, I was rooting for you since I had the extra points.

                                                Go Zona!
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                                                • TheLock
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 04-06-08
                                                  • 14427

                                                  #94
                                                  Originally posted by TheLock
                                                  If you want a stress free Sunday just play both dogs on the money line for 1 unit each.

                                                  Worst case scenario is you lose 2 units. Big friggin deal.

                                                  If one dog wins you make money.

                                                  Both dogs win and its wine and roses.

                                                  Me personally, I have Broncos +3 +100 and Cardinals +3 -105 for 2 units each. I want some stress tomorrow.

                                                  Stress free, boys.

                                                  Stress free.
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                                                  • jjgold
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                    • 388179

                                                    #95
                                                    Carolina look sharp we could be in trouble
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                                                    • TheMoneyShot
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 02-14-07
                                                      • 28672

                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by TheMoneyShot

                                                      EL why you gotta call me out like that?

                                                      Well... 2 ways to look at this. Martingale the 2 favs... or 2 underdogs. Could you see New England VS Carolina in the Super Bowl? Both great teams... 1 probably going to end up there.. right? Then Martingale -3 each. First game wins... BOOM... you're done. Enjoy the $

                                                      Could you see Denver or Arizona in the Super Bowl? Then take both doggies. Just like you said... Vegas might get buried if both favorites win.

                                                      I can't see both dogs winning. I can't see both favorites winning. Martingale approach... and don't mind fuk this too much like The Giant said.

                                                      But for anyone who's trying to cash in both without Martingale approach... it's not worth it. Waste of time.
                                                      1 Underdog

                                                      1 Favorite

                                                      Hope everyone cashed!
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                                                      • El Nino
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 05-03-12
                                                        • 18426

                                                        #97
                                                        Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                                        1 Underdog

                                                        1 Favorite

                                                        Hope everyone cashed!
                                                        Lost Pats bets, Cards teaser, hammered Panthers ML. Break even-ish. Better than a total burial. Broncos pass rush was insane. They didn't tire the whole game. Brady couldn't gain yds when it mattered. Was very lucky on a few passes.
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                                                        • El Nino
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 05-03-12
                                                          • 18426

                                                          #98
                                                          Vid I shot while crossing into NV. I sent it to BIGDAY to post yesterday, but he is a

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                                                          • TheMoneyShot
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 02-14-07
                                                            • 28672

                                                            #99
                                                            Originally posted by El Nino
                                                            Wow, New England -3 (+110) was available right before kickoff on BookMaker/Heritage Late money on Denver.
                                                            Some websites claim Pinnacle went to New England -3 (+118) just before Kick. That's just crazy. Almost telling you who to take. Don't recall ever a line like that winning.
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                                                            • KVB
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 05-29-14
                                                              • 74817

                                                              #100
                                                              Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                                              Some websites claim Pinnacle went to New England -3 (+118) just before Kick. That's just crazy. Almost telling you who to take. Don't recall ever a line like that winning.
                                                              Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                                              ...Truth be told... if you're losing 6 straight wagers on your most calculated and precise analyst and you still lose... you shouldn't be sports gambling.
                                                              Either you haven't been doing this for very long or you have a poor memory. Either way I thank you for whatever contributions you've made to the marketplace, some of which I've taken, and would encourage you to be willing to learn along the way in an effort to improve at sportsbetting.

                                                              There's a learning curve on which you have just begun to ride, regardless of how long you've been betting.

                                                              Start with the basics, track your bets and why you made them, and try to understand why the line opens where it does and why it moves to where it does.

                                                              Good Luck.

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