Vegas with a Position on Championship Games?

[El Nino]

This tells me that despite taking a clear position on Denver, they got uncomfortable with the amount of money on New England. I doubt they really want the 3.5 to even the money, but they've got a comfort level with dollar disparity and they've hit it.

Mirage sets some strange lines. They were the last book that I saw move to Bama -6.5 from -7. They don't mind laying a -120 juiced spread on a big game either.

[El Nino]

Well what do the NFL fans want to see?

If numbers shown are accurate the betting marketplace wants to see NE/CAR. Why not let us have it? I'm sure they can get plenty back on the big game if truly need be.

Do you guys really want to see Den/Arz or Den/Car? I'm sure the fans from there do and the people that have tremendous respect for Peyton and what he has done for the league but I wanna see a competitive super bowl personally. I am a square side to be sure though so keep that in mind.

I think New England/Arizona would be tremendously entertaining. Could be a bowl game like Super Bowl. Brady & Palmer airing it out 100 times...could be fun. You have the stories of Fitz and Palmer. Then, you have the Commish praying that he doesn't have to hand Brady & Bill the Lombardi Trophy.

[El Nino]

EL why you gotta call me out like that?

Well... 2 ways to look at this. Martingale the 2 favs... or 2 underdogs. Could you see New England VS Carolina in the Super Bowl? Both great teams... 1 probably going to end up there.. right? Then Martingale -3 each. First game wins... BOOM... you're done. Enjoy the $

Could you see Denver or Arizona in the Super Bowl? Then take both doggies. Just like you said... Vegas might get buried if both favorites win.

I can't see both dogs winning. I can't see both favorites winning. Martingale approach... and don't mind fuk this too much like The Giant said.

But for anyone who's trying to cash in both without Martingale approach... it's not worth it. Waste of time.

Just playing with you. You do like to pull the "rigged" card though.

[El Nino]

If you want a stress free Sunday just play both dogs on the money line for 1 unit each.

Worst case scenario is you lose 2 units. Big friggin deal.

If one dog wins you make money.

Both dogs win and its wine and roses.

Me personally, I have Broncos +3 +100 and Cardinals +3 -105 for 2 units each. I want some stress tomorrow.

Originally, I liked Pats & Cards. The more I look at it, the more I am leaning Broncos +3 and Cards ML.

[R.P. McMurphy]

Takes from some of my fave sbr posters up in here. Got Nino at head of table Razzer , $$ shot, Poolside, MLD great late night discussion for kicks boys. Should be in for a roller coaster ride tomorrow! I will check back in with my official plays before gm time and looking for live lines as well. Bol gentlemen

[Ra77er]

To be really honest I am intrigued by Arians vs Belichick so NE vs ARZ is not that bad either Nino. Good points by several here. I can't believe we are T minus 12hrs already

[El Nino]

Takes from some of my fave sbr posters up in here. Got Nino at head of table Razzer , $$ shot, Poolside, MLD great late night discussion for kicks boys. Should be in for a roller coaster ride tomorrow! I will check back in with my official plays before gm time and looking for live lines as well. Bol gentlemen

Heck yeah, was hoping some of the forum's better posters would check in and thread did not disappoint. Heading to Vegas in a bit, will check in with a vid and picks.

[El Nino]

To be really honest I am intrigued by Arians vs Belichick so NE vs ARZ is not that bad either Nino. Good points by several here. I can't believe we are T minus 12hrs already

BA is such a cool fukkin' dude. Great coach. If you haven't watched his football life, I highly recommend it. I'm about to whip somebody's ass!

http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nfl/cardinals/2015/08/17/bickley-unlikely-song-turns-arizona-cardinals-battle-hymn/31259239/

I'd love to see Fitz and BA get to hoist the Lombardi Trophy. Fitz one of the most respected pros in the game. Top 5 WR all time.

[Nick Volen]

Grits n' Gravy is spot on with his observation, it's all about getting as many bums on seats. When I was younger I considered the tin hat kind of stuff but they really don't care at all, it still is and will forever be about slots and tables.

[R.P. McMurphy]

Yeah Nick agree as Grits said the one armed bandits undoubtedly by a wide margin the casinos bread and butter. Sports betting obviously making a much bigger presence these days on Vegas floors and offshore and can make for HUGE swings on bad days but they always recover in short time. I think both #'s set about right and pretty sharp far as I'm concerned. Heavy lean right now for me on Panther ml and looking harder at totals in Pats gm far as pre snap straight plays goes.

[POOLSIDE]

Manning threw 1 TD in Denver all season.

Whoa. Was not aware of this. What an insane stat.

[KVB]

Casinos in general are trying to generate more of their revenue from non gambling sources. Everything from resort fees to higher food costs and now we see parking charges.

The casino is no doubt a cash cow but getting to be a smaller part of the big picture. The book is just one part of the casino.

Not a bad thread but I still feel there is a lot of focus on the trees and less on the forest. That will likely always be the case.

I see Bigdaddy showed and as usual forgot to read anything before he posted.

[R.P. McMurphy]

My biggest concern from both dogs is QB and playing from behind. Make all the excuses you want for Manning but fact is his arm is shot, o-line suspect, and run gm hit and miss. Love Arians , Fitz, Palmer, Johnson and that whole cast but unless Johnson has a real solid gm including short passing gm I'm worried about Carson and that finger. He looked like absolute dogshit past couple games and last week he was damn lucky to not throw 4/5 picks which should have been caught and we talking GB here.Johnson a big-time runner no doubt but can he take over the gm and can we trust a gimpy Carson on the road? If either dog gets down 10+ I see a curtain call on both!

[cankid]

Unless Pats turn the ball over or Brady gets injured, I dont see the Pats losing this, they had significant injuries throughout their team this year and now they are quite healthy for the most part. I'm not a Pats fan but their ability to game plan and adjust to the game environment on the fly makes them a difficult opponent. The recent rule changes especially limiting what the defenses can do hurts Denver strong defense, Pats take it, I took the Mline

[El Nino]

My biggest concern from both dogs is QB and playing from behind. Make all the excuses you want for Manning but fact is his arm is shot, o-line suspect, and run gm hit and miss. Love Arians , Fitz, Palmer, Johnson and that whole cast but unless Johnson has a real solid gm including short passing gm I'm worried about Carson and that finger. He looked like absolute dogshit past couple games and last week he was damn lucky to not throw 4/5 picks which should have been caught and we talking GB here.Johnson a big-time runner no doubt but can he take over the gm and can we trust a gimpy Carson on the road? If either dog gets down 10+ I see a curtain call on both!

Panthers LB's are so good. If the Cards can't run the ball and get them to respect it, Keuchly and co. are going to sit back and wait for Palmer to throw them the ball. The word has been Palmer's finger is fine, but I don't believe it. All the injury reports are BS during the playoffs in every sport.

[El Nino]

Whoa. Was not aware of this. What an insane stat.

Yep, and it was week 4 against Minny. He's thrown 2 TD's and 7 INT's in his last 5 games played. They aren't relying on Peyton's arm. They have to run the ball and get some turnovers.

[R.P. McMurphy]

Like I said in another post I realize Denver's defense is real good but are they all time shut down great like '85 Bears or 2000 Balty who can win it on their own? Absolutely NOT!! Been watching 30+ years of football myself and the 2 i mentioned are only ones I've seen you are TRULY hopeless against. Denver D is great but far from legendary and can be exploited!

[jb41]

This may have been discussed, but if both favorites go on to win, let's say they both win by 7 each. What will the spread be in the Superbowl, and who's favored?

[El Nino]

This may have been discussed, but if both favorites go on to win, let's say they both win by 7 each. What will the spread be in the Superbowl, and who's favored?

NFC is already favored by -1.5 in the Super Bowl.

[Ra77er]

What do you think of that? I'm not sure Brady goes into a SB as a dog?

[R.P. McMurphy]

Some might thiink I'm full of air here but in 2000 my Raiders were one of if not THE best offesnsive team in football. Had Gannon , hof receiver, very solid D backing him, true hog line that got bullied my NOBODY!! Best we had seen since early/mid 90's Cowpokes at the time. But seriously that Balty D flat shut it down and for a couple years we were the best. No disrespect to St Louis who we would have faced if not for "tuck" b.s. or Tampon that defense was amazing but give us Chucky back and with our center Robbins issues return overrated Dungy to you scrubs and that shit stain franchise and we win hands 4r down head up no doubt!

[gambler705]

I have an idea that you are the most arrogant, rude, 50 cent bettor I've run across. STFU the adults are talking here, kiddo. I specifically mentioned enough money on Denver to outweigh the # of public bets on New England. I speak with $30K bettors in Vegas, clerks, and one guy who used to beard for Billy Walters. So, go back to that 50 cent grind and retroactively knowing everything. Clown.

Glad others are starting to call out bigdaddyqh aka Barry Marton for the arrogant, rude, condescending wanna be know it all that he is.

[rake922]

Isn't there like 15 threads about this?

[gauchojake]

Isn't there like 15 threads about this?

Rake we need a poll to find out for sure

[JayDr3am]

Whoa. Was not aware of this. What an insane stat.

lmao don't heckle him cause that's a hell of a stat!

[El Nino]

Rake we need a poll to find out for sure

A few polls couldn't hurt. Gaucho on top of things, per usual.

[El Nino]

What do you think of that? I'm not sure Brady goes into a SB as a dog?

The last two Super Bowl teams that opened as dogs, quickly shifted to favs. I'd suspect the same would happen if Pats +1.5 vs Panthers. Doubt we see anything higher than -3 no matter the matchup.

[gauchojake]

A few polls couldn't hurt. Gaucho on top of things, per usual.

Nino GL today. I'm assuming the video is coming after you hit the gym.

[Scorpion]

manning has 9 td -17 int this yr, his receivers drop too many balls, denvers defense is overrated

[El Nino]

Nino GL today. I'm assuming the video is coming after you hit the gym.

You too, pal. Driving, about an hour outside vefas. I flip flopped back and joined the potential public burial with New England -3. Did a teaser as well with Broncos/Cards. CG hanging +157 on Cards ML. Will hit that and prob the over in Cards/Panthers.

[El Nino]

manning has 9 td -17 int this yr, his receivers drop too many balls, denvers defense is overrated

Their D is good. I just see Jules, Gronk, and White wearing them out.

[gauchojake]

You too, pal. Driving, about an hour outside vefas. I flip flopped back and joined the potential public burial with New England -3. Did a teaser as well with Broncos/Cards. CG hanging +157 on Cards ML. Will hit that and prob the over in Cards/Panthers.

I got Pats with shitty juice since I though the line was moving to 3.5
Cards +3 +105

[El Nino]

I got Pats with shitty juice since I though the line was moving to 3.5
Cards +3 +105

I got Pats -3 (-110) on BookMaker Cards +3 (+101) Heritage. Looks like Vegas is juicing up both -3 favs.

[kmarinouofm]

I've begged a few major line managers/sports book directors in Las Vegas Nevada for a free $5 parlay card..and I can tell you if New England patriots win on the money line they will get hurt bad

Fixed

[MoneyLineDawg]

I'm going Denver and not because of the public %

Just think that Denver at home should be no worse than a pick em in this spot against anyone...Patriots also have struggled in Denver historically

Think it will be a close/ toss up type game and that is why I see value on getting 3