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  • BSW-GM
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    • 01-20-09
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    #36
    HeeeHAWWWW, no doubt your one of the best I have ever seen.

    You should define moderate amounts because at some point I'd have put your on our payroll.

    I would say in large part because of you we have a much better soccer department today. Thank you.

    Good luck today!
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    • kiwi
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 08-11-05
      • 674

      #37
      Originally posted by Jimmy0607
      I went with bookmaker mostly because they have a lot of different leagues and they are a high rated book, the only downside is that they dont have 2nd half lines but Oh well, Thanks forthe help guys
      +
      They cover many leagues
      Their odds move slowly and are out of line sometimes
      They are reliable

      -
      They have low soccer limits
      They have not many betting options and no live soccer
      They have only average odds
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      • tartantipster
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        • 09-21-08
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        #38
        Bet7days 50% to €100

        Originally posted by pjesnik24
        lol
        TAKEN FROM MSE:

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        After all, the best way to get trustable info about a new bookie is to ask them, by yourself, via mail, chat or call. Then based on true facts, and your own judge, you can decide to use it or not. In a threads like this, anyone can write anything, which is not trustworthy.""
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        • tartantipster
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          • 09-21-08
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          #39
          Bet7days 50% to €100

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          • Karla
            SBR Sharp
            • 10-31-08
            • 271

            #40
            I've been using 12BET and 188BET, these two offers great odds..

            Cheers!!!
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            • tartantipster
              SBR Hustler
              • 09-21-08
              • 70

              #41
              Bet7days 50% to €100

              Originally posted by Karla
              I've been using 12BET and 188BET, these two offers great odds..

              Cheers!!!
              Yes Karla, 12BET and 188BET have great sign-up offers too, made even better by their great odds, and great payment histories.


              I only mention Bet7days because they were mentioned in this thread, and I thought it best to update on them. I in no way recommend them,,,,,,......yet.
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              • moonbeam
                SBR MVP
                • 03-02-07
                • 1496

                #42
                Originally posted by Jimmy0607
                Anyone know of a good book for soccer lines I'm talking about 2nd half line , good point spreads and a lot of leagues not just the common ones , I've been using sportsbook.com and they have really good lines but their payouts take forever
                the best books for soccer are european books
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                • HeeeHAWWWW
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 06-13-08
                  • 5487

                  #43
                  Originally posted by moonbeam
                  the best books for soccer are european books
                  Arsenal - Manutd AH0:

                  Typical euro book: +100 / -120
                  Pinnacle: +106 / -115 (and will be better tomorrow, maybe +108/-113)
                  12bet: +103 / -110 (ditty better)


                  Difference is even greater with 1x2.
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                  • durito
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 07-03-06
                    • 13173

                    #44
                    moonbeam you sure have an odd take on sportsbooks
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                    • donjuan
                      SBR MVP
                      • 08-29-07
                      • 3993

                      #45
                      Bodog is has quite a few of the smaller leagues and they payout quick.
                      Bodog used to have more. Outside of England, they have gotten rid of any second division leagues. Also they used to do live betting for big soccer games but appear to longer do that. They must have changed management or made some significant changes because they also no longer offer anywhere near as many props as they used to.
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                      • GoodOldTed
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 02-03-09
                        • 135

                        #46
                        good reason why books don't offer lower leagues at this stage of the season.... there are a lot of "convenient" results....
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                        • moonbeam
                          SBR MVP
                          • 03-02-07
                          • 1496

                          #47
                          Originally posted by durito
                          moonbeam you sure have an odd take on sportsbooks
                          Durito sorry you are an idiot
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                          • moonbeam
                            SBR MVP
                            • 03-02-07
                            • 1496

                            #48
                            Originally posted by HeeeHAWWWW
                            Arsenal - Manutd AH0:

                            Typical euro book: +100 / -120
                            Pinnacle: +106 / -115 (and will be better tomorrow, maybe +108/-113)
                            12bet: +103 / -110 (ditty better)


                            Difference is even greater with 1x2.

                            pinnacle also is ok for soccer.

                            pinnacle is a easy to beat book

                            but thats not the question here
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                            • durito
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 07-03-06
                              • 13173

                              #49
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                              • durito
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                                • 07-03-06
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                                #50
                                thanks for the new signature
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                                • Badlands
                                  SBR Rookie
                                  • 04-08-09
                                  • 35

                                  #51
                                  www.Betfair.com Should be the only online book you use, full stop.
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                                  • HeeeHAWWWW
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 06-13-08
                                    • 5487

                                    #52
                                    If you win at betfair, you get premium charge. Then their odds are terrible.
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                                    • Casi
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 02-16-09
                                      • 506

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by Badlands
                                      www.Betfair.com Should be the only online book you use, full stop.
                                      There is never, really never, just 1 book you should use.
                                      Square advice
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                                      • moonbeam
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 03-02-07
                                        • 1496

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by durito
                                        thanks for the new signature
                                        you´re welcome
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                                        • Badlands
                                          SBR Rookie
                                          • 04-08-09
                                          • 35

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by Casi
                                          There is never, really never, just 1 book you should use.
                                          Square advice
                                          Lol.

                                          Have you ever used betfair?

                                          Please tell me another exchange that has the liquidity in football markets that betfair has?

                                          Please tell me another book that covers a wider range of football matches than betfair and that offers more games in play?

                                          Not a single online bookie can beat Betfair on prices, that is fact and isnt up for debate.

                                          You also have the chance to trade in play, all other bookmakers will not let you do this or limit your stake you that you can not make profit.

                                          Square advice, lol, you really are a prize plum fella.
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                                          • HeeeHAWWWW
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 06-13-08
                                            • 5487

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by Badlands
                                            Not a single online bookie can beat Betfair on prices, that is fact and isnt up for debate.
                                            Sure it is. Take a typical pinnacle 5c English premier line, +100/-105. Betfair might have +102/-103. Assume a good commission of 4%, and that's -102/-106, already worse. On top of that, you have the choice of using other 5c books like 12bet/188/sbo/etc, and as a result Betfair hardly ever beats the 5c books.

                                            Then go on a winning run, and betfair will charge you insane amounts of premium charge for the privilege. If you get hit by this betfair becomes a 20c book or worse. You'd be better betting at Ladbrokes.


                                            Edit: I am a little drunk, so feel free to correct the figures. The principle is right though: betfair is a mediocre book, and doubly so with premium charge.
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                                            • pjesnik24
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 11-01-05
                                              • 1286

                                              #57
                                              I NEVER play with betfair. If you have an account with all the asian books + pinnacle you will rarely (probably never) get a better deal with betfair with the commission they are charging. I still cannot believe that mansion exchange did not get enough players to play there as they charged only 1 % but the liquidity was quite bad unless it was a premier league game.
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                                              • pjesnik24
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 11-01-05
                                                • 1286

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by Badlands
                                                Lol.

                                                Have you ever used betfair?

                                                Please tell me another exchange that has the liquidity in football markets that betfair has?

                                                Please tell me another book that covers a wider range of football matches than betfair and that offers more games in play?

                                                Not a single online bookie can beat Betfair on prices, that is fact and isnt up for debate.

                                                You also have the chance to trade in play, all other bookmakers will not let you do this or limit your stake you that you can not make profit.

                                                Square advice, lol, you really are a prize plum fella.
                                                12bet, 188bet, sbobet
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                                                • Badlands
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                                                  • 04-08-09
                                                  • 35

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by pjesnik24
                                                  12bet, 188bet, sbobet
                                                  Are you retarded?

                                                  Not a single one has a patch on betfair, i would put the big 4 in England above every single one of those.
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                                                  • Badlands
                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                    • 04-08-09
                                                    • 35

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by pjesnik24
                                                    I NEVER play with betfair. If you have an account with all the asian books + pinnacle you will rarely (probably never) get a better deal with betfair with the commission they are charging. I still cannot believe that mansion exchange did not get enough players to play there as they charged only 1 % but the liquidity was quite bad unless it was a premier league game.
                                                    My commission is quite low with betfair due to the amount of points i have with betfair.

                                                    The site is miles better set up than pinnacle or the other asian books in my opinion. It is easy to navigate.

                                                    In terms of liquidity you just compare any other online book to betfair, which is disappointing, i signed up with Betdaq and was promised 0% commission for my first 12 months but liquidity is poor and i found it hard to trade and green up during games.
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                                                    • HeeeHAWWWW
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 06-13-08
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                                                      #61
                                                      Betfair never competes with the Asian 4 and pinnacle, because its commission is higher than their juice.

                                                      Take an example, Shakhtar to win tonight in the UEFA cup. Betfair's best price is +122, which is +117 after 4% commission. SBO can give you +123, and that's on a regular 10c line, since the UEFA cup isn't one of their ultra low juice leagues. On a 5c it'd be +126.


                                                      Then there's premium charge......
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                                                      • durito
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                                                        • 07-03-06
                                                        • 13173

                                                        #62
                                                        So you prefer an easier to navigate site to better odds?
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                                                        • Betaddict
                                                          SBR Rookie
                                                          • 08-11-08
                                                          • 41

                                                          #63
                                                          Badlands, with all due respect I would say that you're in soccer betting phase 2, if I can name it that way

                                                          Phase 1 - when you begin to bet and think Bwin and Bet365 are awesome

                                                          Phase 2 - when you discover Betfair and think how could you bet in such bad bookies as the above

                                                          Phase 3 - when you discover Pinny and Asians books and think Betfair sucks and will never see one more cent from you

                                                          I think everyone that bets on soccer go for this process. So please wait some time and you'll see what you're losing at betfair

                                                          Btw, you can green up in asians and don't get limited to peanuts
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                                                          • Badlands
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                                                            • 04-08-09
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                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by durito
                                                            So you prefer an easier to navigate site to better odds?
                                                            Better odds is debatable. As a trader, losing seconds to a page loading or trying to find a market could mean losing money and i find betfair the easiest exchange to navigate and to deposit/withdraw my money.
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                                                            • pjesnik24
                                                              Restricted User
                                                              • 11-01-05
                                                              • 1286

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by Badlands
                                                              Are you retarded?

                                                              Not a single one has a patch on betfair, i would put the big 4 in England above every single one of those.
                                                              well, your answer makes it quite clear for everybody who is the retarded one here.

                                                              check the limits at 12bet, sbobet and your british books and you will see where the limits are bigger

                                                              you are talking about betfair having easier navigation?
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                                                              • pjesnik24
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 11-01-05
                                                                • 1286

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by Betaddict
                                                                Badlands, with all due respect I would say that you're in soccer betting phase 2, if I can name it that way

                                                                Phase 1 - when you begin to bet and think Bwin and Bet365 are awesome

                                                                Phase 2 - when you discover Betfair and think how could you bet in such bad bookies as the above

                                                                Phase 3 - when you discover Pinny and Asians books and think Betfair sucks and will never see one more cent from you

                                                                I think everyone that bets on soccer go for this process. So please wait some time and you'll see what you're losing at betfair

                                                                Btw, you can green up in asians and don't get limited to peanuts
                                                                correct, I started with sportingbet, worked my way through few exchanges and now I am with asians.
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                                                                • HeeeHAWWWW
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by Badlands
                                                                  Better odds is debatable.
                                                                  No it's not. Betfair almost never has the best price, and when it does it gets auto hoovered by bots.
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                                                                  • turnip
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 12-03-06
                                                                    • 940

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Hmm, Pinnacle is difficult to navigate?
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                                                                    • kiwi
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                                                                      • 08-11-05
                                                                      • 674

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by Badlands
                                                                      Are you retarded?

                                                                      Not a single one has a patch on betfair, i would put the big 4 in England above every single one of those.
                                                                      Come on, don't compare Betunfair-20% with asian books concerning soccer. The volume in the asian books is much higher than in Betfair, the navigation is faster and the odds are at least not worse.
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                                                                      • fiveteamer
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                                                                        • 04-14-08
                                                                        • 10805

                                                                        #70
                                                                        This thread illustrates why HeeeeeHAWWWW is just about the sharpest guy on this forum. Even when drunk this guy is sharper that most.
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