What will the Cards series price be vs. Cubs?

[RITZ]

Fly the W!

[jjgold]

Maddon is the best manager in baseball, he always gets max production from limited talent. And now he actually has talent.

He has massive talent too

How do you ever go against Cubs??

[d2bets]

Fun fact: Cubs starting pitchers have combined to allow 2 earned runs n the Cubs last 9 games. That's 2 runs in 60 1/3 innings for a 0.29 ERA.

[LT Profits]

Cubs are FAVORED for the series!

Cubs -115 / Cardinals -105 (Bookmaker)

[d2bets]

Cubs are FAVORED for the series!

Cubs -115 / Cardinals -105 (Bookmaker)

I wanted to say that, but I thought I'd get blasted for it. It'll probably trend toward basically a flat pk em.

G1 also basically a pk em game. A critical game for both teams.

[LT Profits]

I wanted to say that, but I thought I'd get blasted for it. It'll probably trend toward basically a flat pk em.

G1 also basically a pk em game. A critical game for both teams.

I have not been shy about my thoughts on this series.

[BennyBigNuts]

Cubs are FAVORED for the series!

Cubs -115 / Cardinals -105 (Bookmaker)

Christmas in October!
Love it
Cards in 4

[LT Profits]

Christmas in October!
Love it
Cards in 4

How can Cards win in 4 when they will lose Game 1 and Game 3?

Just ribbing you of course but I really think this is closer to a mismatch in the opposite direction than most think.

[BennyBigNuts]

How can Cards win in 4 when they will lose Game 1 and Game 3?

Just ribbing you of course but I really think this is closer to a mismatch in the opposite direction than most think.

If you haven't noticed, the SBR consensus, including yourself, is easily all over the Cubs. This alone should sway you to the correct side.
Was so hammered last night, forgot I was making a thread on SBR like the old days.
Pretty funny, to me at least.
BOL to you and your cubs.

[d2bets]

If you haven't noticed, the SBR consensus, including yourself, is easily all over the Cubs. This alone should sway you to the correct side.
Was so hammered last night, forgot I was making a thread on SBR like the old days.
Pretty funny, to me at least.
BOL to you and your cubs.

I kinda figured as much when you claimed Cards would be -220 to -250 for series. I don't think I've ever been that high.

[High3rEl3m3nt]

Cards will be small favs -115 to -120 is my guess.

[High3rEl3m3nt]

Cards are -115

[LT Profits]

Cards are -115

Now yes. Cubs opened -115 at 5 Dimes and Bookmaker and Cardinals took early money.

[gregmav1]

People still, STILL, underestimating Cardinals pitching staff. 3rd best ERA for a whole team in the last 40 years or something. Jesus Christ.

I'm not saying we sweep the series or even guaranteeing a win, but people all over the Cubs, who lost the division to the Cards and when Cards won the season series 11-7, is hilarious.

Cardinals quietly winning as usual. Cubs being loud about it.

[lakerboy]

People still, STILL, underestimating Cardinals pitching staff. 3rd best ERA for a whole team in the last 40 years or something. Jesus Christ.

I'm not saying we sweep the series or even guaranteeing a win, but people all over the Cubs, who lost the division to the Cards and when Cards won the season series 11-7, is hilarious.

Cardinals quietly winning as usual. Cubs being loud about it.

Cardinals are a regular season wonder. The power of momentum and wild card winner are tough to beat. Good luck. I am all over the cubs.

[gregmav1]

Cardinals are a regular season wonder. The power of momentum and wild card winner are tough to beat. Good luck. I am all over the cubs.

We aren't a "regular season wonder". We've won our last 4 division series. We've reached the NLCS 4 years in a row, beating teams that were favored over us in the series nearly every single time.

[gregmav1]

Last 4 years in the postseason.

That is an absurd amount of success. Also consistent.

Cardinals are under-appreciated and underrated every year, and it looks like this year will be no different. And more than likely, they reach their 5th NLCS in a row if history is any indication.

[LT Profits]

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Last 4 years in the postseason.

That is an absurd amount of success. Also consistent.

Cardinals are under-appreciated and underrated every year, and it looks like this year will be no different. And more than likely, they reach their 5th NLCS in a row if history is any indication.

Difference is Cardinals were actually very good the last five years or so. This year, not so much their 100 wins greatly outperformed their peripherals, as did the team ERA. Looking at my model numbers, Cubs starting rotation grades out second best of all the playoff teams behind only the Mets, Cardinals starting rotation is third worst ahead of only Kansas City and Texas. Cubs bullpen also grades out much better than St. Louis. Offensively, Cardinals are better vs. righties, Cubs are better vs. lefties. Unfortunately for Cards their edge vs. righties gets neutralized when one of them is Arrieta.

[gregmav1]

Difference is Cardinals were actually very good the last five years or so. This year, not so much their 100 wins greatly outperformed their peripherals, as did the team ERA. Looking at my model numbers, Cubs starting rotation grades out second best of all the playoff teams behind only the Mets, Cardinals starting rotation is third worst ahead of only Kansas City and Texas. Cubs bullpen also grades out much better than St. Louis. Offensively, Cardinals are better vs. righties, Cubs are better vs. lefties. Unfortunately for Cards their edge vs. righties gets neutralized when one of them is Arrieta.

Dude I'm telling you.... people have said that narrative for the last 4 postseasons. Every single year people say "they aren't as good as last year when they made the playoffs". And every time I have to say "maybe you're right... fade them. And maybe this will finally be the year that you will be right. But up until this point you'd be 0 for 4."

I agree our team isn't flashy or have huge numbers, but we win games and that's all that matters. Fade them if you want, but you would be out a ton of money if you had thought the same thing for the past 5 years. Tons of people have thought that way, and Cards have burned them all, consistently to the point that it isn't a fluke.

Not to mention this is the most games they've won in those last 5 years. Chalk it up to whatever you want, those are the facts.

[lakerboy]

Dude I'm telling you.... people have said that narrative for the last 4 postseasons. Every single year people say "they aren't as good as last year when they made the playoffs". And every time I have to say "maybe you're right... fade them. And maybe this will finally be the year that you will be right. But up until this point you'd be 0 for 4."

I agree our team isn't flashy or have huge numbers, but we win games and that's all that matters. Fade them if you want, but you would be out a ton of money if you had thought the same thing for the past 5 years. Tons of people have thought that way, and Cards have burned them all, consistently to the point that it isn't a fluke.

Not to mention this is the most games they've won in those last 5 years. Chalk it up to whatever you want, those are the facts.

Didn't he say they were really good last 5 years?

This year the Cardinals committed a cardinal sin. They did too much when it doesn't count.

[gregmav1]

Didn't he say they were really good last 5 years?

This year the Cardinals committed a cardinal sin. They did too much when it doesn't count.

Once the Cardinals go far in the playoffs, then everyone says "the Cardinals were good this year"... happens every year. But going into the playoffs everyone thinks their record is better than what it should be and that they will get burned round 1. Then, as usual, they win 1 or 2 or 3 series and everyone goes "Oh yeah they were a good team this year" and just like every year, when the postseason for next season comes around, and Cards are in it, the people say "they were good last year... but not that good this year."

Whatever, just saying... cards outperform EVERY SINGLE YEAR for the past 5 years in the playoffs. We won the most games in the MLB this year. Don't be so confident on the Cubs, that's all I'm saying, especially with us only having to face Arrieta once in all likelihood.

[BennyBigNuts]

The Cardinals are the Spurs of MLB.
They always get it done, never get any respect, always make the over-hyped team they beat look like a joke.
It's business as usual for them this week.
The Cubs lovers have no choice but to ejaculate for winning a wild card game, since they have a winning team once every 20 years.
Mayweather beats pacqiao in 4 games here.
Cards already eyeing the Mets-Dodgers series, praying the Mets can get there somehow.

[d2bets]

The Cardinals are the Spurs of MLB.
They always get it done, never get any respect, always make the over-hyped team they beat look like a joke.
It's business as usual for them this week.
The Cubs lovers have no choice but to ejaculate for winning a wild card game, since they have a winning team once every 20 years.
Mayweather beats pacqiao in 4 games here.
Cards already eyeing the Mets-Dodgers series, praying the Mets can get there somehow.

Now that's silly. You make it sound like they go out and sweep the NLDS. They've gone 5 games 3 of the last 4.

[konck]

All along you knew the Cubs would be favs this has been out for a week

Los Angeles Dodgers	<input name="C_8" id="editx" size="4"> +220
Chicago Cubs	<input name="C_9" id="editx" size="4"> +255
St. Louis Cardinals	<input name="C_10" id="editx" size="4"> +275
New York Mets	<input name="C_11" id="editx" size="4"> +390

[konck]

Odd for pennant you get 2 wins with Arrieta(1relief)
But I know when Cards back is to the Wall Wainwright start

[RockBottom]

The Cards get lots of respect, well earned.

[d2bets]

Odd for pennant you get 2 wins with Arrieta(1relief)
But I know when Cards back is to the Wall Wainwright start

Can someone translate this into english so that I can disagree?

[konck]

Can someone translate this into english so that I can disagree?

Ok ill use Hebrew and Flame so you understand
The Cards said Wainwright is going to be in the pen.
Im saying if it goes game 5 and I think it will... Wainwright starts
Hands Down.
Now next time take the dik out of your face so you can read

[Goat Milk]

All this talk about baseball and nothing about game 1 matchups.....pitiful

[The Kraken]

Not wise to go against BigGameBenny in MLB

This was a no play series for me even though I want the Cubs to win

I don't see any path for them winning now

Cards are going back to the WS

[packerd_00]

Roll on Cards,I never like to bet against that team come playoff time.

[BennyBigNuts]

Now that's silly. You make it sound like they go out and sweep the NLDS. They've gone 5 games 3 of the last 4.

To think the Cards cant sweep this series is just dumb.
And I said this BEFORE the game 1 win last night.
Better team, WAY better bullpen, better pedigree.
You have Kendriks on the mound tomorrow next lol.
Good luck. Better hope they tag Garcia for 7 runs to have a shot.

[TheMoneyShot]

Cubs let Lackey beat them. Guy throws sh#$.

[spro23]

Monday will be Arrieta - Harvey parlay opportunity. noone here would seriously bet against arrieta would they?

[d2bets]

To think the Cards cant sweep this series is just dumb.
And I said this BEFORE the game 1 win last night.
Better team, WAY better bullpen, better pedigree.
You have Kendriks on the mound tomorrow next lol.
Good luck. Better hope they tag Garcia for 7 runs to have a shot.

I'm not sure who Kendriks is, but Kyle Hendricks has allowed 3 hits and 0 runs in his last 2 starts, with 17 K's to 2 BB. WHIP in Sept/Oct is 0.795. He'll keep the Cubs in he game, but doesn't go past 6 though so bullpen will be a factor.