Anyone else on zito?

[ItchyHooHoo]

Hes certainly capable of pitching well any day. Stutts isnt better than zito. Zito said he wasnt throwin the 3 seam he toyed with last start. I have to beleive san fran wins this game.

zito vs stutts

doesnt he win like 8 out of 10 with this matchup?

San frans a good bet here!!!!!! got +162 matchy

whos betting this?

[Tsoprano]

On the Dodgers

gl though

[LT Profits]

I am on Over 8.5 -120.

[BobHarvey]

I posted this in a previous thread but Zito has never won in April since signing with the Giants.

[ertl09]

I posted this in a previous thread but Zito has never won in April since signing with the Giants.

Does this mean the streak continues or is he due to win ?

I'm on the Dodgers, never understood streaks like these because each situation is different

[Kyleben]

you could make a pretty decent case that based on stats zito is the most pitcher in the Majors, and if he wasn't making so much money he would be in AAA, instead of trotting out for a Lose every 5 days.

[BobHarvey]

Does this mean the streak continues or is he due to win ?

I'm on the Dodgers, never understood streaks like these because each situation is different

The streak continues. Why is this streak any different from others?

By the way, here's another streak/trend. He's a sub. 400 pitcher at home.

GL!

[ItchyHooHoo]

you could make a pretty decent case that based on stats zito is the most pitcher in the Majors, and if he wasn't making so much money he would be in AAA, instead of trotting out for a Lose every 5 days.

hes top 5 leftys in all of majors. not sure where you get your info but the source needs to be fired. zito has good stuff man.

[ertl09]

The streak continues. Why is this streak any different from others?

By the way, here's another streak/trend. He's a sub. 400 pitcher at home.

GL!

I would never back Zito, I don't like him. My point is that unless you absolutly know he got crushed in all his April starts then you can have a reliable trend, but what if he pitched 8 innings and only gave up one run. Plus being on SF doesn't help his cause.

[BobHarvey]

Top 5 LHP in baseball?


Santana, Sabathia, Lee, Saunders, Hamels, Buerhle, Lester, etc.

Zito had good stuff and won the CY award when he was in Oakland. He's been crap since he signed the big $$$ deal with the Giants.

[LT Profits]

Zito has always been a slow starter, it is not exclusive to him joining Giants. For his entire career, he has a 5.18 ERA and 1.45 WHIP in April, his worst numbers in either category for any month.

Pitchers are creatures of habit, some are ready to go right out of the box and some need more time than spring traning work to out the kinks. Zito has always been in the latter category, althoght since joining Giants, he has never quite worked those kinks out in any month.

[BobHarvey]

Now Zito is pitching for a rebuilding Giants team that struggles on offense and judging by the early returns tonight, on defense as well.

[BTTNext]

I'm on the Dodgers and over 8.5.

Good luck though.

[Kyleben]

hes top 5 leftys in all of majors. not sure where you get your info but the source needs to be fired. zito has good stuff man.

10-17 with a 5.15 era, 4 straight years of a decrease in innings pitched, led the majors in $ paid per win(thats not a good stat), currently as we speak has a 11.12era, given up earned runs in 5 innings, i could go on...

Top 5 lefty? I think you need to check the stats before you tell someone to check the stats.

[BobHarvey]

You got me thinking so I did some homework.

Zito was:

0-3 in April 2007 (3.75 ERA),

0-6 March/April 2008 (7:53)

0-1 April 2009 (9.00) Not including tonight's game

I agree sometimes these "streaks" need to be explained in more detail.

[ertl09]

this trend is a reliable source then based on the above info although he did have a 3.75 ERA in 07'. Its everyones right to have their own opinion I just thought I'd point it out but so far so good for the dodgers , lets keep it going !

[2daBank]

i just hope they keep zito in gm long enough for dodgers to go over 6 before he gets yanked

[Rich Boy]

Dodgers ML baby

[ertl09]

Dodgers ML baby

only 2 run lead guys

will be seeing the bullpens a lot from both teams

[chrisharvard01]

Now Zito is pitching for a rebuilding Giants team that struggles on offense and judging by the early returns tonight, on defense as well.

exactly.

i do agree that zito is the better pitcher here itchy, but the giants seem to provide no run support so even if he only gives up 2 runs he can still lose.

[Kyleben]

this trend is a reliable source then based on the above info although he did have a 3.75 ERA in 07'. Its everyones right to have their own opinion I just thought I'd point it out but so far so good for the dodgers , lets keep it going !

I agree but when you want to tell me that zito is a top 5 lefty you get what you deserve. How is a top 5 lefty in all of the major leagues 4th on the depth chart of one of the worst teams in the majors?

[ertl09]

thanks Zito for loading the bases

[ItchyHooHoo]

I agree but when you want to tell me that zito is a top 5 lefty you get what you deserve. How is a top 5 lefty in all of the major leagues 4th on the depth chart of one of the worst teams in the majors?

What do i deserve?

Fyi tardo: Cole hamels was fifth on the depth chart 2 years ago. Being on a chart doesnt tell the story. Ill give you a free class on economics and sport. when a team gives you a $125 million dollar contract...youre the ace.

No questions, no doubts, no apology needed.

Next class will cost you. I agree zitos record looks bad on paper, but i assure you...this kid has good stuff. Trust me.

[Kyleben]

What do i deserve?

Fyi tardo: Cole hamels was fifth on the depth chart 2 years ago. Being on a chart doesnt tell the story. Ill give you a free class on economics and sport. when a team gives you a $125 million dollar contract...youre the ace.

No questions, no doubts, no apology needed.

Next class will cost you. I agree zitos record looks bad on paper, but i assure you...this kid has good stuff. Trust me.

How about i give you a class 1. lincecum is the ace(but you haven't heard of him because you are stuck in 2 years ago)hes also last years NL cy young award winner(this award is given to the top pitcher in the national league). 2. barry zito is really starting to pick it, i am completely wrong his era has almost broken 10.0 with todays great performance, another great 5 innings. 3. its funny how you seem to be the only person scared of his "STUFF", because we know the dodgers were not.

[Kyleben]

oh yeah and 4. you may need me to pay for a class if you keep making bets like this one

[dwest718]

Zito WAS good 3 seasons ago. Hasn't been good since Giants overpayed for him.

[byronbb]

Zito WAS good 3 seasons ago. Hasn't been good since he stopped doing the juice

[reno cool]

I didn't bet the game but Zito has been awful since at least the start of last season. Russ Ortiz type of I don't belong in the league bad. Some pitchers have a bad streak, some just lose it.

[eidolon]

Next time I put a bet down related to anyone with the last name Zito, it will be a bet on horses.