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  • element1286
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    • 02-25-08
    • 3370

    #1
    NHL goaltenders
    I am doing some power rankings for the playoffs, but I am having trouble ranking the goaltender situations in the East. Right now I have Washington, Philly, and Montreal as the bottom three. Anyone have any opinions about the top 5??
  • DwightShrute
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 01-17-09
    • 103747

    #2
    Originally posted by element1286
    I am doing some power rankings for the playoffs, but I am having trouble ranking the goaltender situations in the East. Right now I have Washington, Philly,an and Montreal as the bottom three. Anyone have any opinions??

    Real tough , not too much separating them but I cant argue those 3 if I had to pick.

    Luongo's the best in the NHL
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    • FreshCoast
      SBR Sharp
      • 01-25-09
      • 467

      #3
      1.Brodeur
      2.Thomas
      3.Lunqvist
      4.Flurry
      5.Ward

      You could argue Brodeur or Thomas number 1 but It's Brodeur.
      3-5 could be argued anyway. Lunqvist has the higher potential I think.
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      • tullamore
        SBR MVP
        • 07-17-07
        • 3586

        #4
        Thomas has had the best year, but has only played in 1 playoff series. Brodeur has been hurt this year, but has the best track record. I would take Brodeur over Thomas. I like Cam Ward, but he is too inconsistent, if returns to playoff 06 form, the Canes could go to the cup. Lundqvist and Fleury are about equal in my opinion.

        1. Brodeur
        2. Thomas
        3. Ward
        4. Lundqvist
        5. Fleury
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        • element1286
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          • 02-25-08
          • 3370

          #5
          Thanks guys.

          I always saw Fleury and Ward as equal, inconsistent, young, talented, put up a lot of wins but GAA/SV% aren't always great, and both have had deep playoff runs at a young age.

          I decided to go with
          1. Brodeur
          2. Thomas
          3. Lundqvist
          4a. Fleury
          4b. Ward
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          • Rich Boy
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 02-01-09
            • 9714

            #6
            East and Goaltending are 2 words that dont mix
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            • betplom
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 09-20-06
              • 13444

              #7
              I've been very impressed with only to goalies this season,

              Luongo and Steve Mason.

              I don't believe Brodeur is anywhere near as good as he was and he won't help NJ this year, it's 2009 - he is mediocre at best IMHO.
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              • Rich Boy
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 02-01-09
                • 9714

                #8
                Western finals = Stanley Cup.
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                • element1286
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                  • 02-25-08
                  • 3370

                  #9
                  Originally posted by betplom
                  I've been very impressed with only to goalies this season,

                  Luongo and Steve Mason.

                  I don't believe Brodeur is anywhere near as good as he was and he won't help NJ this year, it's 2009 - he is mediocre at best IMHO.
                  You're tough on goaltenders.
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                  • betplom
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 09-20-06
                    • 13444

                    #10
                    Originally posted by element1286
                    You're tough on goaltenders.
                    I am, because its tough to be good, Brodeur was very good for many years but time has definitely caught up with him.

                    I like NJ but counting on the old man to save them at this stage of his career is asking too much.
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                    • element1286
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                      • 02-25-08
                      • 3370

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Rich Boy
                      East and Goaltending are 2 words that dont mix
                      They aren't that different. Chris Osgood is an embarassment as an NHL goaltender. Chris Mason is mediocre. Hiller is good but unproven. Steve Mason is extremely talented, but I doubt they win a playoff series. Huet/Khabibulin combo is mediocre.
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                      • element1286
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                        • 02-25-08
                        • 3370

                        #12
                        Originally posted by betplom
                        I am, because its tough to be good, Brodeur was very good for many years but time has definitely caught up with him.

                        I like NJ but counting on the old man to save them at this stage of his career is asking too much.
                        I agree, the whole team stopped scoring goals, and Brodeur is again shouldering the load. I don't think they get past Carolina.
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                        • Rich Boy
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                          • 02-01-09
                          • 9714

                          #13
                          I like how you dont even mention Luongo or Kiprusoff. Very convincing argument.
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                          • element1286
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                            • 02-25-08
                            • 3370

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Rich Boy
                            I like how you dont even mention Luongo or Kiprusoff. Very convincing argument.
                            Luongo is great, everyone knows that. Kiprusoff is very good, but he is having a rough year (I guess combination of piss-poor defense and Mike Keenan). And Nabakov is a very good goaltender as well. But what the East lacks in top end goaltenders, Lundqvist probably being the best. They make up for in depth. There are three goaltenders in the West that are Stanley Cup caliber goaltenders (Kiprusoff, Nabakov, and Luongo). While the East has five goaltenders (Broduer, Lundqvist, Thomas, Fleury, and Ward).
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                            • Unitage
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 02-24-09
                              • 218

                              #15
                              Khabi when hot is one of the best goalies in the league.
                              And hes hot now.
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                              • Flyers09
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                                • 04-13-09
                                • 3666

                                #16
                                Lundqvist my fav
                                Kippursoff
                                Khabi my 2nd fav
                                Brodeur
                                Luongo

                                for anyone who adds fluery in the list you have to add biron in as well, they are evenly matched up, check the stats....
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                                • element1286
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                                  • 02-25-08
                                  • 3370

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Flyers09
                                  Lundqvist my fav
                                  Kippursoff
                                  Khabi my 2nd fav
                                  Brodeur
                                  Luongo

                                  for anyone who adds fluery in the list you have to add biron in as well, they are evenly matched up, check the stats....
                                  Fleury is far superior to Biron.
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                                  • Flyers09
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                                    • 04-13-09
                                    • 3666

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by element1286
                                    Fleury is far superior to Biron.
                                    sry, but u r blind...fleury was a fluke last season...
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                                    • element1286
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                                      • 02-25-08
                                      • 3370

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Flyers09
                                      sry, but u r blind...fleury was a fluke last season...
                                      In what way?
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                                      • Flyers09
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                                        • 04-13-09
                                        • 3666

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by element1286
                                        In what way?
                                        not to be an a$$hole by the remark, u must be blind, but his numbers are the same as birons, even the announcers on nhl live &nhl on the fly say the same, i understand fleury got to the stanley cup finals, but is wasnt him who get them there. I use to think he was amazing, the next lundqvist, or brodeur, or hasek, etc. But then all of a sudden this season, he didnt look the same. he didnt go from post to post sprawling out like some kind of animal stopping the puck, like he did as much as last yr, IDK, he just does not look the same, he looks and acts like a biron, hes good when he wants to be, OR hes good only cause the other team is shooting bad...ya know?
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                                        • element1286
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                                          • 02-25-08
                                          • 3370

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Flyers09
                                          not to be an a$$hole by the remark, u must be blind, but his numbers are the same as birons, even the announcers on nhl live &nhl on the fly say the same, i understand fleury got to the stanley cup finals, but is wasnt him who get them there. I use to think he was amazing, the next lundqvist, or brodeur, or hasek, etc. But then all of a sudden this season, he didnt look the same. he didnt go from post to post sprawling out like some kind of animal stopping the puck, like he did as much as last yr, IDK, he just does not look the same, he looks and acts like a biron, hes good when he wants to be, OR hes good only cause the other team is shooting bad...ya know?
                                          Fair enough. But I don't think you can compare regular season stats and say goaltenders are equal. The playoffs are where goaltenders make their money and build their reputation. Fleury was incredible in last year's playoffs, and Biron was mediocre. Fleury is the type of goaltender that wins games, Biron isn't.
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                                          • Flyers09
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                                            • 04-13-09
                                            • 3666

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by element1286
                                            Fair enough. But I don't think you can compare regular season stats and say goaltenders are equal. The playoffs are where goaltenders make their money and build their reputation. Fleury was incredible in last year's playoffs, and Biron was mediocre. Fleury is the type of goaltender that wins games, Biron isn't.
                                            very true very true with that bold statement...if it wasnt for the flyers 6 20+ goal scorers who knows where they would be...biron contract is up after this yr and i pray they trade him and find a real goaltender, and im sick of hearing this salary cap non-sense, the gm's and who ever else up in that booth need to stop making so much money and invest a majority of it in the team and find a real goaltender we always slacked goaltending, always. besides ron hextall, and bernie parent
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