Official Bernie Sanders for President 2016 thread

[scumbag]

Oh look, more proof the deck is stacked against Bernie.
DNC today just rolled back the Obama ban on federal contributions from federal lobbyists.

Two guesses who that favors? Hint: Not B.S

it's high penetrating time you felt the bern.

c'mon man, these goddamn democrats are trying to savagely take down a good and honest man.

help out the underdog, stand up for bernie, and throw a middle finger to the oyster democrats at the same time.

[PittsburghPlayer]

i'm on the streets for bernie here in vegas. we're going to win this thing. too much economic insecurity in this town. bernie's message is playing really well.
i've knocked on doors, found the person had moved, and within a minute i've got the new resident hype as penetrate about bernie. i've gotten like 20 of this people to sign commit to caucus cards. even if half of them show, we'll win my precinct.

Only a Scumbag would do that!! just messin` with Ya...Good for you, getting off your ass and doing something for the good of the nation/people. Carry on...

[scumbag]

Bernie has been dropping some insanely great ads lately:

[scumbag]

[scumbag]

[scumbag]

tad devine is penetrating brilliant. these ads are just incredible.

[brooks85]

tad devine is penetrating brilliant. these ads are just incredible.

I'd have to be as dumb as you so I could see what you see. And that isn't an insult, you're just a person who doesn't know facts and use logic as you have proven.

[stevenash]

it's high penetrating time you felt the bern.

c'mon man, these goddamn democrats are trying to savagely take down a good and honest man.

help out the underdog, stand up for bernie, and throw a middle finger to the oyster democrats at the same time.

He has to come up with answers dude.
Right now my vote can be had, Trump is a blowhard, I despise Hil, however Bernie is not answering the questions.

What's going to happen to the 1/2 million health care workers that would be eliminated if his single payer health care plan went into effect.

His single payer plan is 4 trillion dollars a year short of his proposal.
You can't tax the average person that much.

Free college, first off, it's not really free.
Students would have to pay for room, board, and all living expenses still.
Where's the 75 billion coming from for the 'free college'
Bernie says "Robin Hood tax"
Sounds good, but it's going to create a gigantic shit storm.

I'm all for helping the poor white, yellow, black or purple guy who all he/she needs is an education to get a leg up, that's all I needed was an education and I got one, but what he wants and how he proposes to get it is not possible, there are too many holes, big holes big enough to drive a Peterbilt cab 18 wheeler though.

His plans sound great to the instant gratification generation that don't want to hear the arguments against his ideas.
You try to talk to the instant gratification 24 year old that is on board with Bernie that the free college plan of his sounds good on the surface, but the problem with it is "this, that, and the other thing facts" and they don't want to hear it because now you're invading their 'happy space'.........

Big ideas, not thought through is the problem I mainly have with Bernie.
God forbid though I have to suffer 4 years of Hilary or Trump.

I'll get behind Bloomberg if he runs, he knows how to run a city, he knows hot to put together a staff.

[DwightShrute]

I'd have to be as dumb as you so I could see what you see. And that isn't an insult, you're just a person who doesn't know facts and use logic as you have proven.

[jtoler]

He has to come up with answers dude.
Right now my vote can be had, Trump is a blowhard, I despise Hil, however Bernie is not answering the questions.

What's going to happen to the 1/2 million health care workers that would be eliminated if his single payer health care plan went into effect.

His single payer plan is 4 trillion dollars a year short of his proposal.
You can't tax the average person that much.

Free college, first off, it's not really free.
Students would have to pay for room, board, and all living expenses still.
Where's the 75 billion coming from for the 'free college'
Bernie says "Robin Hood tax"
Sounds good, but it's going to create a gigantic shit storm.

I'm all for helping the poor white, yellow, black or purple guy who all he/she needs is an education to get a leg up, that's all I needed was an education and I got one, but what he wants and how he proposes to get it is not possible, there are too many holes, big holes big enough to drive a Peterbilt cab 18 wheeler though.

His plans sound great to the instant gratification generation that don't want to hear the arguments against his ideas.
You try to talk to the instant gratification 24 year old that is on board with Bernie that the free college plan of his sounds good on the surface, but the problem with it is "this, that, and the other thing facts" and they don't want to hear it because now you're invading their 'happy space'.........

Big ideas, not thought through is the problem I mainly have with Bernie.
God forbid though I have to suffer 4 years of Hilary or Trump.

I'll get behind Bloomberg if he runs, he knows how to run a city, he knows hot to put together a staff.

Good post, youre always very rational in the morning after youve had your coffee, except that last line.

[rkelly110]

He has to come up with answers dude.
Right now my vote can be had, Trump is a blowhard, I despise Hil, however Bernie is not answering the questions.

What's going to happen to the 1/2 million health care workers that would be eliminated if his single payer health care plan went into effect.

His single payer plan is 4 trillion dollars a year short of his proposal.
You can't tax the average person that much.

Free college, first off, it's not really free.
Students would have to pay for room, board, and all living expenses still.
Where's the 75 billion coming from for the 'free college'
Bernie says "Robin Hood tax"
Sounds good, but it's going to create a gigantic shit storm.

I'm all for helping the poor white, yellow, black or purple guy who all he/she needs is an education to get a leg up, that's all I needed was an education and I got one, but what he wants and how he proposes to get it is not possible, there are too many holes, big holes big enough to drive a Peterbilt cab 18 wheeler though.

His plans sound great to the instant gratification generation that don't want to hear the arguments against his ideas.
You try to talk to the instant gratification 24 year old that is on board with Bernie that the free college plan of his sounds good on the surface, but the problem with it is "this, that, and the other thing facts" and they don't want to hear it because now you're invading their 'happy space'.........

Big ideas, not thought through is the problem I mainly have with Bernie.
God forbid though I have to suffer 4 years of Hilary or Trump.

I'll get behind Bloomberg if he runs, he knows how to run a city, he knows hot to put together a staff.

He's since changed his tune. He's now saying community college should be free, not institutional.

The Repub congress is so dysfunctional right now, I don't think anyone can work with them, no matter who we elect.

[unde0087]

Problem with Sanders is he sits up there telling people free this, free that but who the fuk you think will end up paying for all his stupid ass free stuff? Sure sounds great, but in reality it's a bunch of bullshit. If you like Sanders you are probably someone that loves free handouts or wants a government to do everything for you but wipe your ass. Even if you want big government this guy isn't the answer, wasn't he the one in charge of the VA that ended up in scandal and embarrassment?

[khicks26]

He has to come up with answers dude.
Right now my vote can be had, Trump is a blowhard, I despise Hil, however Bernie is not answering the questions.

What's going to happen to the 1/2 million health care workers that would be eliminated if his single payer health care plan went into effect.

His single payer plan is 4 trillion dollars a year short of his proposal.
You can't tax the average person that much.

Free college, first off, it's not really free.
Students would have to pay for room, board, and all living expenses still.
Where's the 75 billion coming from for the 'free college'
Bernie says "Robin Hood tax"
Sounds good, but it's going to create a gigantic shit storm.

I'm all for helping the poor white, yellow, black or purple guy who all he/she needs is an education to get a leg up, that's all I needed was an education and I got one, but what he wants and how he proposes to get it is not possible, there are too many holes, big holes big enough to drive a Peterbilt cab 18 wheeler though.

His plans sound great to the instant gratification generation that don't want to hear the arguments against his ideas.
You try to talk to the instant gratification 24 year old that is on board with Bernie that the free college plan of his sounds good on the surface, but the problem with it is "this, that, and the other thing facts" and they don't want to hear it because now you're invading their 'happy space'.........

Big ideas, not thought through is the problem I mainly have with Bernie.
God forbid though I have to suffer 4 years of Hilary or Trump.

I'll get behind Bloomberg if he runs, he knows how to run a city, he knows hot to put together a staff.

http://ilikeberniebut.com/

[khicks26]

Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history.
Dwight D. Eisenhower

Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/au...8YyLWDxD7w1.99

A true Republican, not these fuking hacks in office today.

[Jayvegas420]

Problem with Sanders is he sits up there telling people free this, free that but who the fuk you think will end up paying for all his stupid ass free stuff? Sure sounds great, but in reality it's a bunch of bullshit. If you like Sanders you are probably someone that loves free handouts or wants a government to do everything for you but wipe your ass. Even if you want big government this guy isn't the answer, wasn't he the one in charge of the VA that ended up in scandal and embarrassment?

Bernie isn't proposing anything that much different from what we have in Canada.
Some of you guys make it seem like America will be the only country with a single payer system. Some of you sound like you've never heard of free tuition and reduced schooling cost. Who's going to pay for all this? If Bernie has his way it will be the 1% & no one in this forum should give a shit If that's how it all goes down.

[stevenash]

If Bernie has his way it will be the 1% & no one in this forum should give a shit If that's how it all goes down.

It's going to go down on the middle class, and I give a shit.

http://www.vox.com/2016/1/28/10858644/bernie-sanders-kenneth-thorpe-single-payer

[stevenash]

http://fee.org/articles/why-bernie-sanders-has-to-raise-taxes-on-the-middle-class/

[stevenash]

Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history.
Dwight D. Eisenhower

Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/au...8YyLWDxD7w1.99

A true Republican, not these fuking hacks in office today.

Eisenhower was a great military mind but he was a socialist with a (R) next to his name.

[rkelly110]

http://fee.org/articles/why-bernie-s...-middle-class/

For one thing. Doctors, hospitals and the insurance industry would not allow single payer.

Let's do some math.

Say you pay $500 a month in insurance times 12 months equals $6k a year. A person making $50k a year, that's 12%
from his salary. Throw in 5k in deductibles before insurance kicks in, that's another 10%. He's paying 22% out of
his pay just for insurance. A person making less is paying a higher percentage.

Do you think Sanders would raise our taxes 22% to pay for single payer?

I like the Repubs idea to be able to cross state lines for competition and make some of health insurance costs
tax deductible.

I don't think it's fair everyone pays the same. Lower income people should pay less.

[DwightShrute]

[titanium777]

Bernie isn't proposing anything that much different from what we have in Canada.
Some of you guys make it seem like America will be the only country with a single payer system. Some of you sound like you've never heard of free tuition and reduced schooling cost. Who's going to pay for all this? If Bernie has his way it will be the 1% & no one in this forum should give a shit If that's how it all goes down.

Some people are so ignorant to who actually pay taxes. The top 1/5th of americans pay 83.9% of federal taxes (while over 40% of americans pay NONE). The Laffer Curve shows that 1) you can't overtax the wealthy and 2) there isn't even enough wealthy people to tax to pay for Sander's promises.

Forbes estimates if you took every billionaire in USA, their total net worth would be 1.7 to 2 trillion. You could take all their money, and that's about 10% of our total federal debt, leaving the other 90% unaccounted for.

Sorry but our GDP to debt ratio is already out of hand. Sanders wants us to be like Finland or Denmark (little pocket countries of 5 million people), but there's a good chance we end up like Greece.

[brooks85]

Some people are so ignorant to who actually pay taxes. The top 1/5th of americans pay 83.9% of federal taxes (while over 40% of americans pay NONE). The Laffer Curve shows that 1) you can't overtax the wealthy and 2) there isn't even enough wealthy people to tax to pay for Sander's promises.

Forbes estimates if you took every billionaire in USA, their total net worth would be 1.7 to 2 trillion. You could take all their money, and that's about 10% of our total federal debt, leaving the other 90% unaccounted for.

Sorry but our GDP to debt ratio is already out of hand. Sanders wants us to be like Finland or Denmark (little pocket countries of 5 million people), but there's a good chance we end up like Greece.

with a far worse result.

[Dr.Gonzo]

tad devine is penetrating brilliant. these ads are just incredible.

Why are you voting against your interest? If you're a white male you're going to get screwed here.

[mikewlgm]

He has to come up with answers dude.
Right now my vote can be had, Trump is a blowhard, I despise Hil, however Bernie is not answering the questions.

What's going to happen to the 1/2 million health care workers that would be eliminated if his single payer health care plan went into effect.

His single payer plan is 4 trillion dollars a year short of his proposal.
You can't tax the average person that much.

Free college, first off, it's not really free.
Students would have to pay for room, board, and all living expenses still.
Where's the 75 billion coming from for the 'free college'
Bernie says "Robin Hood tax"
Sounds good, but it's going to create a gigantic shit storm.

I'm all for helping the poor white, yellow, black or purple guy who all he/she needs is an education to get a leg up, that's all I needed was an education and I got one, but what he wants and how he proposes to get it is not possible, there are too many holes, big holes big enough to drive a Peterbilt cab 18 wheeler though.

His plans sound great to the instant gratification generation that don't want to hear the arguments against his ideas.
You try to talk to the instant gratification 24 year old that is on board with Bernie that the free college plan of his sounds good on the surface, but the problem with it is "this, that, and the other thing facts" and they don't want to hear it because now you're invading their 'happy space'.........

Big ideas, not thought through is the problem I mainly have with Bernie.
God forbid though I have to suffer 4 years of Hilary or Trump.

I'll get behind Bloomberg if he runs, he knows how to run a city, he knows hot to put together a staff.

Good post.

Heres my problem with the "free" college

College won't be "free" it will just be someone else paying for it. More than likely the people who are already paying for their kid to go to college.

Professors,janitors,advisors,cafeteria workers all need to be paid

Buildings have to be repaired

Campus has to be upkept


Who is gonna pay for all that?

Taxes you say....good plan then college will be as shitty as public high schools in this country. Teachers are quitting left and right all over the country because the pay is low and job is hard. You want college to be as bad as public schools then make it "free" like public schools.

[scumbag]

What's going to happen to the 1/2 million health care workers that would be eliminated if his single payer health care plan went into effect.

That's bullshit. Why would nurses be backing bernie if he was going to fire them? the only people getting fired will be some yacht buying motherfuckers - and their employees - who make their living denying people coverage.

His single payer plan is 4 trillion dollars a year short of his proposal.
You can't tax the average person that much.

says who? the "liberal" media you always say lies? wonder if they're protecting the trillion dollar private insurance industry?

Free college, first off, it's not really free. Students would have to pay for room, board, and all living expenses still.

so? if you eliminate tuition you save people a pile of case. kids can still live with their parents.

Where's the 75 billion coming from for the 'free college'
Bernie says "Robin Hood tax"
Sounds good, but it's going to create a gigantic shit storm.

where do you get this shit? he's doing a 1 cent tax per/$100 on high frequency traders. this will have the added benefit of making the entire financial system more stable (do some reading if you don't believe me).

this will bring in a mountain of cash (bernie says 300b/yr. others say 150b/yr because it might cause traders to trade less).

[mikewlgm]

Bernie isn't proposing anything that much different from what we have in Canada.
Some of you guys make it seem like America will be the only country with a single payer system. Some of you sound like you've never heard of free tuition and reduced schooling cost. Who's going to pay for all this? If Bernie has his way it will be the 1% & no one in this forum should give a shit If that's how it all goes down.

the difference is Canada has a population of around 35 million....United States has a population of over 300 million....doing this kind of healthcare has never been attempted on such a large scale.

[scumbag]

Good post.

Heres my problem with the "free" college

College won't be "free" it will just be someone else paying for it. More than likely the people who are already paying for their kid to go to college.

get a look at this penetrating dummy. hey, dipshit, if you were a non-drooler, you'd know that bernie taxes high frequency traders on wall st to pay for "free" college

inform yourself before you open your stupid roosterlicker.

[Dr.Gonzo]

When you have "free" college you'll increase demand and academia will respond by giving themselves a large non incentivized wage increase and start spending on unnecessary projects.

The degrees will be worthless because everyone will have them. Social sciences are a complete waste of time, even now.

Remember, IQ out performs education as a indicator towards job performance.

[scumbag]

what part of this don't you idiots understand: we are going to spend 20 trillion over the next 10 years on health care right now. so if bernie's plan only costs 15 trillion over 10 years - wouldn't that be less than we're already going to spend?

[mikewlgm]

get a look at this penetrating dummy. hey, dipshit, if you were a non-drooler, you'd know that bernie taxes high frequency traders on wall st to pay for "free" college

inform yourself before you open your stupid roosterlicker.

Suuuuuurrrrrrreeeeee Buddy go ahead and believe it. Everyone know that when they really need the money the will tax the people who always pay it....the middle class.

Glad to know that Bernie supporters are lil boys who come hard with personal attacks when they get scared.

[Dr.Gonzo]

what part of this don't you idiots understand: we are going to spend 20 trillion over the next 10 years on health care right now. so if bernie's plan only costs 15 trillion over 10 years - wouldn't that be less than we're already going to spend?

And Treadeau was going to balance the budget by the end of his first term

Get real.

[scumbag]

the difference is Canada has a population of around 35 million....United States has a population of over 300 million....doing this kind of healthcare has never been attempted on such a large scale.

per capita dumbass. we might be a large country, but luckily, we're the richest country in the history of the world. why are you trying so hard to continue a system in which some yacht buying ************ who owns an insurance company rapes you?

[Dr.Gonzo]

Suuuuuurrrrrrreeeeee Buddy go ahead and believe it. Everyone know that when they really need the money the will tax the people who always pay it....the middle class.

Glad to know that Bernie supporters are lil boys who come hard with personal attacks when they get scared.

Real talk.

These leftist always think they'll go after the elites and they always end up going after the middle class.

Every penetrating time.

[mikewlgm]

get a look at this penetrating dummy. hey, dipshit, if you were a non-drooler, you'd know that bernie taxes high frequency traders on wall st to pay for "free" college

inform yourself before you open your stupid roosterlicker.

You probably believed Obama too right?

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2013/dec/12/lie-year-if-you-like-your-health-care-plan-keep-it/

[scumbag]

Suuuuuurrrrrrreeeeee Buddy go ahead and believe it. Everyone know that when they really need the money the will tax the people who always pay it....the middle class.

Glad to know that Bernie supporters are lil boys who come hard with personal attacks when they get scared.

that's how i roll. and lol @ "scared" of some halfwit who couldn't think his way out of a paper bag.