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  • Andy117
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    • 02-07-10
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    #806
    The free market doesn't care about helping the poor.
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    • indio
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 06-03-11
      • 751

      #807
      Originally posted by Andy117
      The free market doesn't care about helping the poor.
      The free market doesn't care or not care about anything because it's a philosophy you twit. A true free market (which we have never had) is the optimum way for people to live and prosper in freedom. If you didn't have an international Zionist cabal in complete control of our money supply using a fiat debt based credit scheme, the quality of life for everyone would be a lot better for 95% of the population because they wouldn't be slaves to a devaluing currency and inflation which has the whole world making interest payments on everything they own.

      Being poor in itself is not a problem for anyone in a free market system. In a real free market, you can always get by. Being poor with no hope of ever improving, or being poor and totally reliant on others is the real problem. Being poor in a socialist economy where you must rely on a large corporation or a government to live is a nightmare (and more and more of a reality in today's broken America).
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      • scumbag
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        • 11-02-13
        • 3504

        #808
        Originally posted by indio
        The free market doesn't care or not care about anything because it's a philosophy you twit. A true free market (which we have never had) is the optimum way for people to live and prosper in freedom. If you didn't have an international Zionist cabal in complete control of our money supply using a fiat debt based credit scheme, the quality of life for everyone would be a lot better for 95% of the population because they wouldn't be slaves to a devaluing currency and inflation which has the whole world making interest payments on everything they own.

        Being poor in itself is not a problem for anyone in a free market system. In a real free market, you can always get by. Being poor with no hope of ever improving, or being poor and totally reliant on others is the real problem. Being poor in a socialist economy where you must rely on a large corporation or a government to live is a nightmare (and more and more of a reality in today's broken America).
        there has never been a freer marker than victorian england. of course we all know the miserable poverty the masses suffered during that period. if you aren't familiar, give dickenson a read.

        in a "free market" everyone would be reliant upon "large corporations" (monopolies would dominate). and with zero redistribution it makes it basically impossible for all but the greatest/most cunning/sociopath to improve their lot. you know... can't bootstrap it when you don't have any penetrating boots. redistribution is prerequisite to mass economic mobility (like when government taxed rich people and gave any citizen of california who could qualify academically a tuition-free college education).

        not looking for you to respond - as i don't care to engage with some alex jones "zionist cabal" wackjob - just looking to counter your shitty arguments.
        Last edited by scumbag; 11-28-15, 05:37 AM.
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        • scumbag
          SBR MVP
          • 11-02-13
          • 3504

          #809
          Originally posted by Andy117
          The free market doesn't care about helping the poor.
          it was a sick joke. that's the elites pulling the ladder up behind them (aka what's happened since the reagan years). a bunch of ladder pulling motherfuckers.
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          • scumbag
            SBR MVP
            • 11-02-13
            • 3504

            #810


            Yet they were hamstrung by their belief in the key tenet ofpolitical economy – that the free market generated natural, fair andefficient outcomes. In fact, no market is natural or free, and the market inVictorian England incorporated legal biases that operated in favour ofdifferent interest groups, particularly those owning capital.
            paper from the london school of economics on victorian era economics.
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            • scumbag
              SBR MVP
              • 11-02-13
              • 3504

              #811
              i'm flat penetrating shocked that anyone with half a brain would want to revert back to discredited 19th century economic theories.
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              • KingJD31
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 11-04-11
                • 8167

                #812
                Survival of the fittest too much dead weight. That's what this country needs more then anything, cut some of the entitlements and you'll see the unemployment rate drastically reduce
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                • Tseay
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 10-29-10
                  • 176

                  #813
                  Bernie for president of what? Our local Turd Co-op needs shitty leadership, I'm inm for that.
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                  • DwightShrute
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 01-17-09
                    • 103138

                    #814
                    Feel the Burn


                    JUST IN: Documents obtained by
                    ABC News show at least 4 Bernie Sanders staffers accessed Clinton voter data and saved it to their computers.

                    DNC Data Breach: What Happened and What It Means for Bernie Sanders' Campaign

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                    • brooks85
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 01-05-09
                      • 44709

                      #815
                      Originally posted by Andy117
                      The free market doesn't care about helping the poor.


                      andy and his liberal nonsense. This is why education is important.
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                      • Mr KLC
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 12-19-07
                        • 31097

                        #816
                        Would love it if Bernie finally fights back after what the DNC did. He's let BLM run all over him. He gave Clinton a free pass during the first debate when it came to the internet scandal. It's time for him to summon his inner-Trump. Would be pure entertainment for the 7 viewers watching tonight.
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                        • brooks85
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 01-05-09
                          • 44709

                          #817
                          Originally posted by Mr KLC
                          Would love it if Bernie finally fights back after what the DNC did. He's let BLM run all over him. He gave Clinton a free pass during the first debate when it came to the internet scandal. It's time for him to summon his inner-Trump. Would be pure entertainment for the 7 viewers watching tonight.
                          completely forgot, make it 8 now
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                          • Andy117
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 02-07-10
                            • 9511

                            #818
                            Originally posted by brooks85
                            andy and his liberal nonsense. This is why education is important.
                            The free market cares about profit above all.
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                            • Mr KLC
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                              • 12-19-07
                              • 31097

                              #819
                              I can't do it. I just can't do it. Found myself falling asleep just trying to watch the ABC guys talking about it. Might glimpse at it during the commercials of the Rockets-Clippers game.
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                              • guitarjosh
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 12-25-07
                                • 5788

                                #820
                                Originally posted by Andy117
                                The free market cares about profit above all.

                                People care about profit above all. Don't kid yourself into thinking that just because the profit isn't in the form of a higher stock price no one is profiting.
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                                • ACoochy
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 08-19-09
                                  • 13949

                                  #821
                                  Originally posted by guitarjosh
                                  People care about profit above all. Don't kid yourself into thinking that just because the profit isn't in the form of a higher stock price no one is profiting.
                                  Not all of us pally
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                                  • Mr KLC
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                                    • 12-19-07
                                    • 31097

                                    #822
                                    They're all sucking each others' dicks (Clinton's included) when it comes to scandals. Nothing to see here with all the sports events on a Saturday night.
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                                    • guitarjosh
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 12-25-07
                                      • 5788

                                      #823
                                      Originally posted by ACoochy
                                      Not all of us pally
                                      Really? You don't want to be better off than you currently are?
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                                      • Mr KLC
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                                        • 12-19-07
                                        • 31097

                                        #824
                                        Turned the Democratic debate on while my basketball game was on commercial. They were on the subject of gun control. My daughter asked me to shut it off because they were ruining her hot cocoa. That's my girl!
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                                        • rkelly110
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                                          • 10-05-09
                                          • 39691

                                          #825
                                          Originally posted by Mr KLC
                                          Turned the Democratic debate on while my basketball game was on commercial. They were on the subject of gun control. My daughter asked me to shut it off because they were ruining her hot cocoa. That's my girl!
                                          Well, I guess if you're interested in who has the bigger dick, the Dem debates aren't for you.
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                                          • DwightShrute
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 01-17-09
                                            • 103138

                                            #826
                                            "No, no—I don’t need some flashy, expensive podium when I can make one myself." – Bernie Sanders




                                            Bernie Sanders Refuses Flashy ABC Podium In Favor Of Own Humble, Homemade Lectern
                                            GOFFSTOWN, NH—Saying he would not accept anything offered by the nation’s corporate elite, presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders reportedly refused to use the…

                                            THEONION.COM


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                                            • GIVEMETHEMONEY
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 12-13-12
                                              • 8428

                                              #827
                                              uh uh uh I'm Bernie Sanders and I am a door mat for that evil ugly lying sorry ass bitch Hitlary Clinotni!
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                                              • scumbag
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 11-02-13
                                                • 3504

                                                #828
                                                wonder how butthurt ole dwight is that bernie crushes trump?
                                                Stop the presses! According to a new poll by Quinnipiac University on Tuesday, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) destroys Republican candidate Donald Trump in a general election by 13 percentage points. In this new poll, Sanders has 51 percent to Trump's 38 percent. If this margin held in a general election, Democrats would almost certainly regain control of the United States Senate and very possibly the House of Representatives
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                                                • Mr KLC
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                                                  • 12-19-07
                                                  • 31097

                                                  #829
                                                  Sanders isn't going to get the nomination (unless the email thing mysteriously turns on Hillary), so its really a moot point. Would love to see a Sanders 3rd party campaign similar to Nader in 2000 though.
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                                                  • GIVEMETHEMONEY
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 12-13-12
                                                    • 8428

                                                    #830
                                                    So is that the best your DEMONAZICOMMIEFUKKUCRAPPY worthless piece of shit party can do?

                                                    Two really old farts and one of them who lies about everything?

                                                    lmfao
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                                                    • guitarjosh
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 12-25-07
                                                      • 5788

                                                      #831
                                                      Originally posted by scumbag
                                                      wonder how butthurt ole dwight is that bernie crushes trump?
                                                      Did you see his op/ed? What did you think? I actually agree with a decent portion of it.
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                                                      • scumbag
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 11-02-13
                                                        • 3504

                                                        #832
                                                        Originally posted by Mr KLC
                                                        Sanders isn't going to get the nomination (unless the email thing mysteriously turns on Hillary), so its really a moot point. Would love to see a Sanders 3rd party campaign similar to Nader in 2000 though.
                                                        bernie will beat that pandering oyster. all non-brain dead progressives (which is the overwhelming majority) realize this sellout doesn't represent our values. on what planet is someone who supports/supported so-called free-trade, mass-incarceration, financial deregulation, the iraq war, welfare reform, had the republicans position on gays till 13', etc. etc., a lock to win the democratic nomination? this is why she lost to obama the first time. she couldn't show her progressive bona fides. and she's struggling to do so again (like when she responded to her wall st ties by saying, "vagina, 9/11").

                                                        now some may be dumb/misinformed enough to believe that hillary is the more viable general election candidate, but that's laughably false. a candidate who turns off large portions of their own base is hardly the better candidate in a general. polls say up to 20% of bernie supporters would never vote for hillary. no hillary supporters say they wouldn't back bernie. this is why hillary is the republicans best chance at winning.

                                                        bernie is going the distance in this election. he's going to win iowa, then new hampshire, and that momentum will carry him to the nomination. then it's just a matter of what republican dumbass he's up against and how much he beats them by (with polls showing trump and cruz lose huge and rubio is the best positioned against bernie).
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                                                        • GIVEMETHEMONEY
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 12-13-12
                                                          • 8428

                                                          #833
                                                          I will even say Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas to scumbag even though he is a libturd, commie socialist and DEMONAZICOMMIEFUKUPCRAPPY piece of you know what!
                                                          Last edited by GIVEMETHEMONEY; 12-24-15, 01:58 PM.
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                                                          • scumbag
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 11-02-13
                                                            • 3504

                                                            #834
                                                            Originally posted by guitarjosh
                                                            Did you see his op/ed? What did you think? I actually agree with a decent portion of it.
                                                            http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/23/op...-fed.html?_r=1
                                                            one part was kind of strange: putting farmers, urban residents, "people of all walks of life" on the board.

                                                            but everything else he said sounds perfectly reasonable.
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                                                            • dante1
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                                                              • 10-31-05
                                                              • 38647

                                                              #835
                                                              money you missed this thread??
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                                                              • GIVEMETHEMONEY
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 12-13-12
                                                                • 8428

                                                                #836
                                                                Originally posted by dante1
                                                                money you missed this thread??
                                                                Sanders is a fukking retard.

                                                                He couldn't fight himself out of a wet paper bag!
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                                                                • scumbag
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 11-02-13
                                                                  • 3504

                                                                  #837
                                                                  Originally posted by GIVEMETHEMONEY
                                                                  I will even say Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas to scumbag even though he is a libturd, commie socialist and DEMONAZICOMMIEFUKUPCRAPPY piece of you know what!
                                                                  i'd never wish you a "merry christmas". i will, however, tell you to go moonwalk on a freeway.
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                                                                  • scumbag
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 11-02-13
                                                                    • 3504

                                                                    #838
                                                                    Originally posted by GIVEMETHEMONEY
                                                                    Sanders is a fukking retard.
                                                                    pretty funny coming from a moron whose IQ doesn't even surpass room temperature.
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                                                                    • GIVEMETHEMONEY
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 12-13-12
                                                                      • 8428

                                                                      #839
                                                                      defcon 4 alert, defcon 4 alert, leftist piece of scumbag troll spotted.

                                                                      Do not ask questions stupid and dangerous shoot scumbag on sight!

                                                                      Unarmed and very, very stupid!! This is scumbag's trademark!!
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                                                                      • scumbag
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 11-02-13
                                                                        • 3504

                                                                        #840
                                                                        i don't need a piece. i'll just take yours and pistol whip your teeth out.

                                                                        i'd like to see how that would play out IRL. i'm certain that if i'm within 10 yards, it's impossible for a redneck simpleton to reach into his waistband, pull out a gun, level it, and pull the trigger. that gun would be my gun.
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