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  • dlunc3
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    • 10-31-09
    • 9129

    #1
    Jordan's team won just two games less without him...
    Wonder how this clev team would do without Lebron?
  • The Giant
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    • 01-21-12
    • 21480

    #2
    Post of the night, right here.

    Didn't the Bulls go to the conference finals the year Jordan went to play baseball?

    Lebron leaves town and his teams don't make the playoffs.
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    • lakerboy
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      • 04-02-09
      • 94379

      #3
      Originally posted by The Giant
      Post of the night, right here.

      Didn't the Bulls go to the conference finals the year Jordan went to play baseball?

      Lebron leaves town and his teams don't make the playoffs.

      Lost to knicks in game 7 in round 2.
      They had Phil jackson as coach. That counts for a bit.
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      • The Kraken
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        • 12-25-11
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        #4
        Wow! Telling.

        Lebron leaves Miami and the Heat go from 4 straight Finals to missing the Playoffs

        He goes to Cle and they go straight to the NBA Finals without their #2 and #3 stars

        He did it with a with a supporting cast of ex Knick players that can't even spell NBA and were part of the worst team in the East last year

        Gotta respect
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        • MoneyLineDawg
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          • 01-01-09
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          #5
          In before 10 pages....
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          • The Giant
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            • 01-21-12
            • 21480

            #6
            Originally posted by lakerboy
            Lost to knicks in game 7 in round 2.
            They had Phil jackson as coach. That counts for a bit.
            You're right, it was the second round.

            Do you know how Miami did this year without Lebron?

            Do you know how Cleveland did when he left town?

            This guy is a one-man wrecking crew.
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            • Seaweed
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              • 01-19-12
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              #7
              Lebron is honestly amazing


              One of a kind
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              • jtoler
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                • 12-17-13
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                #8
                How many games less did they lose in the playoffs?
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                • ThaTopMoron
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                  • 04-30-10
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                  #9
                  comparing the Heat team in 2014 w/out LeBron to the Bulls in 94 w/out MJ

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                  • The Giant
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                    • 01-21-12
                    • 21480

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ThaTopMoron
                    comparing the Heat team in 2014 w/out LeBron to the Bulls in 94 w/out MJ

                    Which team was better?
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                    • bigtymer56
                      SBR MVP
                      • 07-31-12
                      • 4742

                      #11
                      That Bulls team also gave us of one the greatest games ever:

                      Fight, blowing a double digit lead in the fourth, pippen sits out the final play because its drawn up for Kukoc, Kukoc wins the game anyway. Imagine if a star player did some shit like that today...heads would explode.

                      Sidenote: Year Curry won Sixth Man of the Year.
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                      • Seto
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                        • 12-16-11
                        • 12906

                        #12
                        Originally posted by The Giant
                        Post of the night, right here.

                        Didn't the Bulls go to the conference finals the year Jordan went to play baseball?

                        Lebron leaves town and his teams don't make the playoffs.
                        Doesn't help when you have the worst luck with injuries a team has possibly had in NBA history, in particular with your 2 stars missing a combined 58 games.

                        Did any player on Miami NOT miss double digit games this year?
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                        • red12sox
                          SBR MVP
                          • 11-28-14
                          • 1034

                          #13
                          Miami with a healthy chris bosh definitely makes the playoffs in that shittt conference
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                          • dlunc3
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                            • 10-31-09
                            • 9129

                            #14
                            Originally posted by red12sox
                            Miami with a healthy chris bosh definitely makes the playoffs in that shittt conference
                            Even with bosh out they added dragic, whiteside and deng... And still couldn't make playoffs.

                            This current Cleveland team would struggle to win 15 games
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                            • Smoke
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                              • 10-09-09
                              • 48111

                              #15
                              Question is could james play with the flu and still impact the game like jordan did
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                              • Thor4140
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                                • 02-09-08
                                • 22296

                                #16
                                do u asshats realize he shot 11 for 35 and went to the charity stripe almost 20 times? Turned the ball over at crucial times and threw up five more bricks or do u just look at the final score? Do u realize this is about Curry playing awful and not some super human game Lebron is playing. This is why u gamblers lose over and over again. U listen to these talking heads appointed by the NBA and suck up everything they say. Ya really are pathetic. I bet most of u watch Fox News lol.
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                                • mikemca
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                                  • 03-10-10
                                  • 10047

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Thor4140
                                  do u asshats realize he shot 11 for 35 and went to the charity stripe almost 20 times? Turned the ball over at crucial times and threw up five more bricks or do u just look at the final score? Do u realize this is about Curry playing awful and not some super human game Lebron is playing. This is why u gamblers lose over and over again. U listen to these talking heads appointed by the NBA and suck up everything they say. Ya really are pathetic. I bet most of u watch Fox News lol.
                                  If you listened to the talking heads you ended up putting as much as you could on GS last night and hadn't a thought about Cleveland at around 3-1. According to just about everyone on TV cavs were getting swept. LeBron may not have had his most efficient game but that just shows how good he is that their are people like you that find negatives in a monster triple double Stat line. When was the last finals he lad a legit bad game like mvp Curry? There is no way to be efficient when you are carrying a bunch of mediocre at best offensive players Ala Allen Iverson.
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                                  • smoke a bowl
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 02-09-09
                                    • 2776

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Thor4140
                                    do u asshats realize he shot 11 for 35 and went to the charity stripe almost 20 times? Turned the ball over at crucial times and threw up five more bricks or do u just look at the final score? Do u realize this is about Curry playing awful and not some super human game Lebron is playing. This is why u gamblers lose over and over again. U listen to these talking heads appointed by the NBA and suck up everything they say. Ya really are pathetic. I bet most of u watch Fox News lol.
                                    ON COURT PT R A PF FG 3FG FT TO STL BK MIN FPT
                                    L. James 39 16 11 3 11-34 3-6 14-18 3 1 1 50 76
                                    I'd say he did just fine last night minus shooting % which will continue to be down if the refs keep letting them play this physical.
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                                    • Seto
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                                      • 12-16-11
                                      • 12906

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by dlunc3
                                      Even with bosh out they added dragic, whiteside and deng... And still couldn't make playoffs.

                                      This current Cleveland team would struggle to win 15 games
                                      Because Dragic, Whiteside, and Deng didn't miss any games due to injury right?

                                      Plus which regardless, any team would struggle if their 2 best players missed a combined 58 games.

                                      I wouldn't say they'd struggle to win 15 but they probably would struggle to make the playoffs (w/ Kyrie obviously). The 2013/14 Cavs were still in the playoff hunt (granted an outside shot) with 6-7 games to go.
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                                      • pronk
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                                        • 11-22-08
                                        • 6887

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Thor4140
                                        do u asshats realize he shot 11 for 35 and went to the charity stripe almost 20 times? Turned the ball over at crucial times and threw up five more bricks or do u just look at the final score? Do u realize this is about Curry playing awful and not some super human game Lebron is playing. This is why u gamblers lose over and over again. U listen to these talking heads appointed by the NBA and suck up everything they say. Ya really are pathetic. I bet most of u watch Fox News lol.
                                        James had triple -double you silly dumbass and in Cleveland he's gonna run the floor with your useless tiny curry in his back pocket. Deal with it!
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                                        • newguy
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 12-27-09
                                          • 6100

                                          #21
                                          Even putting James in the same sentence as Jordan is embarrassing. Jordan made his teammates better. LBJ hopes his teammates win the game.

                                          I haven't watched a single minute of the NBA finals this year but did see highlights and saw LBJ miss two shots in two games that would have won the game for his team. That is all I ever need to see from him. He is good - very very good. But Jordan > LBJ and its not even close.
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                                          • slacker00
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                                            • 10-06-05
                                            • 12262

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Thor4140
                                            do u asshats realize he shot 11 for 35 and went to the charity stripe almost 20 times? Turned the ball over at crucial times and threw up five more bricks or do u just look at the final score? Do u realize this is about Curry playing awful and not some super human game Lebron is playing. This is why u gamblers lose over and over again. U listen to these talking heads appointed by the NBA and suck up everything they say. Ya really are pathetic. I bet most of u watch Fox News lol.
                                            This guy lost some coin on GS.
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                                            • pronk
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                                              • 11-22-08
                                              • 6887

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by newguy
                                              Even putting James in the same sentence as Jordan is embarrassing. Jordan made his teammates better. LBJ hopes his teammates win the game.

                                              I haven't watched a single minute of the NBA finals this year but did see highlights and saw LBJ miss two shots in two games that would have won the game for his team. That is all I ever need to see from him. He is good - very very good. But Jordan > LBJ and its not even close.
                                              If you haven't watch this series then do us a favor: stifle yourself because your opinion is worthless. And I bet you didn't see Jordan play either.
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                                              • chico2663
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                                                • 09-02-10
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                                                #24
                                                jordan was on the team that lost to knicks in the 1984 conference finalshttp://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198412070CHI.html
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                                                • newguy
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                                                  • 12-27-09
                                                  • 6100

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by pronk
                                                  If you haven't watch this series then do us a favor: stifle yourself because your opinion is worthless. And I bet you didn't see Jordan play either.
                                                  Fair enough on my opinion being worth less than others as I don't watch NBA much anymore.

                                                  you can have your opinion on LBJ but Jordan won championships with supporting staff that he taught how to play the game. LBJ could never do that and that is why he had to leave cleveland.
                                                  I wouldn't make that bet about me seeing Jordan play though - that would be a loser for you
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                                                  • MoneyLineDawg
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                                                    • 01-01-09
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                                                    #26
                                                    LBJ doesn't make his teammates better? That's what he's known for man....Much better in that aspect than Jordan was

                                                    No shit coming from the guy with a Chicago avatar...go figure
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                                                    • smoke a bowl
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                                                      • 02-09-09
                                                      • 2776

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
                                                      LBJ doesn't make his teammates better? That's what he's known for man....Much better in that aspect than Jordan was

                                                      No shit coming from the guy with a Chicago avatar...go figure
                                                      Lebron has tortured the city of Chicago. 16-5 in the postseason.
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                                                      • MoneyLineDawg
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                                                        • 01-01-09
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by smoke a bowl
                                                        Lebron has tortured the city of Chicago. 16-5 in the postseason.
                                                        Also all MJ homers to the grave...which I get but come on man

                                                        LBJ drive and kick out to wide open players all day....He is a pass first superstar
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                                                        • chico2663
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                                                          • 09-02-10
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                                                          #29
                                                          Oscar was better than Jordan. When oscar played only 8 teams so it was harder to win rings.Games aren't same between mj and lebron. lebron is more like magic
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                                                          • Ghenghis Kahn
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                                                            • 01-02-12
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by newguy
                                                            Even putting James in the same sentence as Jordan is embarrassing. Jordan made his teammates better. LBJ hopes his teammates win the game.

                                                            I haven't watched a single minute of the NBA finals this year but did see highlights and saw LBJ miss two shots in two games that would have won the game for his team. That is all I ever need to see from him. He is good - very very good. But Jordan > LBJ and its not even close.
                                                            what? you're basing your opinion from espn highlights? why not watch the games? this is the first time in nba history where the games went b2b overtime in the finals.

                                                            let's face the facts, jordan was a ball hog. lebron likes to distribute but in this series, he has to be somewhat of a ball hog since the cavs don't have enough scorers due to kyrie and love's injuries.

                                                            when lebron wins 7 championships, he'll probably surpass jordan as being the greatest but to say he shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence is just ludicrous, especially when you haven't watched him play in the finals.
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                                                            • Ghenghis Kahn
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                                                              • 01-02-12
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by chico2663
                                                              Oscar was better than Jordan. When oscar played only 8 teams so it was harder to win rings.Games aren't same between mj and lebron. lebron is more like magic
                                                              niqqa your knicks suck!!!
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                                                              • smoke a bowl
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                                                                • 02-09-09
                                                                • 2776

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by chico2663
                                                                Oscar was better than Jordan. When oscar played only 8 teams so it was harder to win rings.Games aren't same between mj and lebron. lebron is more like magic
                                                                Harder to win rings vs 8 teams than 30? Do explain the logic?
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                                                                • Ghenghis Kahn
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                                                                  • 01-02-12
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by smoke a bowl
                                                                  Harder to win rings vs 8 teams than 30? Do explain the logic?
                                                                  guy is a fukking fool.
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                                                                  • jtoler
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                                                                    • 12-17-13
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                                                                    what? you're basing your opinion from espn highlights? why not watch the games? this is the first time in nba history where the games went b2b overtime in the finals.

                                                                    let's face the facts, jordan was a ball hog. lebron likes to distribute but in this series, he has to be somewhat of a ball hog since the cavs don't have enough scorers due to kyrie and love's injuries.

                                                                    when lebron wins 7 championships, he'll probably surpass jordan as being the greatest but to say he shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence is just ludicrous, especially when you haven't watched him play in the finals.
                                                                    Don't see how he can ever pass Jordan even with ten chips. I've seen enough of him, know what he can/can't do, will/won't do. He's just not and never will be better, watched him 12 years now.
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                                                                    • Boner_18
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                                                                      • 08-24-08
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      People need to get off Jordan's nuts. Many better than him.
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