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  • Justin7
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 07-31-06
    • 8577

    #1
    John Morrison/BetUS Scam (Video)
    I put some info in this video that wasn't in the short news release.

    There's a real chance that JM Ghosts will all rate it "1"... So if you watch it, please rate it... or it might go into "Ghost-rated 1 oblivion".

    The main John Morrison thread is here:


    And the video...

  • InTheHole
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 04-28-08
    • 15243

    #2
    So Justin...do you advise I sign up with JM and BETUS and then play the opposite side
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    • InTheHole
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 04-28-08
      • 15243

      #3
      Oh you answered it...
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      • onthewhat
        Restricted User
        • 05-14-08
        • 15411

        #4
        Good educational video
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        • bmw530i
          Restricted User
          • 04-19-08
          • 4058

          #5
          Dateline SBR. You must have had alot of fun on this one Justin.
          When will these kids learn there is no Magic potion.
          In this business: Money means everything and it NEVER comes easy!
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          • Bluehorseshoe
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 07-13-06
            • 15018

            #6
            I want the link so I could bet the other side.

            A middlers dream!!
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            • Justin7
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 07-31-06
              • 8577

              #7
              Originally posted by InTheHole
              So Justin...do you advise I sign up with JM and BETUS and then play the opposite side
              To be clear, BJ is not part of the scam. I looked closely at them, and they often had lines about 5 cents away from market... But they offered it to everyone. This sounds like reasonable bookmaking when you have an irrationally induced imbalance.
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              • pico
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 04-05-07
                • 27321

                #8
                justin seems angry. i know why.

                good video
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                • InTheHole
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 04-28-08
                  • 15243

                  #9
                  Originally posted by bmw530i
                  Dateline SBR. You must have had alot of fun on this one Justin.
                  When will these kids learn there is no Magic potion.
                  In this business: Money means everything and it NEVER comes easy!


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                  • Slim
                    SBR MVP
                    • 11-13-08
                    • 4722

                    #10
                    How about the Diamond Sportsbook scam? The one where they grade your wager wrong and then don't return your emails.
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                    • Justin7
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 07-31-06
                      • 8577

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Slim
                      How about the Diamond Sportsbook scam? The one where they grade your wager wrong and then don't return your emails.
                      I'm not familiar with that one. Diamond always treated me fine. Did you fill out a complaint?
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                      • The HG
                        SBR MVP
                        • 11-01-06
                        • 3566

                        #12
                        excellent vid, I wonder how many people actually fall for it every month.

                        and not for nothing - but Cornell? I mean, come on. Even if it were true, is that supposed to be impressive? Cornell??? If I had a degree from Cornell, I don't know if I'd quite feel embarrassed about it, but I certainly wouldn't be going around showing it off. That right there should be a sign - some guy going


                        "and I have a PHD ..... from CORNELL, baby"


                        uh........ok......
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                        • pico
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 04-05-07
                          • 27321

                          #13
                          cornell is in the middle of nowhere. bunch of farmer ivy leaguers.

                          real trust fund babies goes to Dartmouth
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                          • Shortstop
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 01-02-09
                            • 27281

                            #14
                            Great Video Justin! This should be Sticky at the top.
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                            • poker_dummy101
                              Restricted User
                              • 11-03-08
                              • 6395

                              #15
                              No no, not Cornell University the Ivy league school.

                              Cornell College.. a part of the Iowa Intercollegiate Athletic Conference. http://www.cornellcollege.edu/athletics/index.shtml

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                              • TobiasFunke
                                SBR MVP
                                • 02-12-09
                                • 1999

                                #16
                                Great video, very informative, nice work.
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                                • Shortstop
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 01-02-09
                                  • 27281

                                  #17
                                  Bump
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                                  • ijustwant2bpaid
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 11-11-08
                                    • 3706

                                    #18
                                    thanks for looking out for us posters Justin. I bet u saved alot of posters a good amount of money. You are the man for reaching above and beyond once again!
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                                    • bookie
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 08-10-05
                                      • 2112

                                      #19
                                      Yay SBR consumer reports division! I don't see the link to rate this video...a little help?
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                                      • fiveteamer
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 04-14-08
                                        • 10805

                                        #20
                                        Slim did you get your 30 bones back yet guy?

                                        I've never seen a guy so pissed over $30 before in my life
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                                        • jmathes
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 02-19-09
                                          • 2385

                                          #21
                                          Justin, why don't you post this on the JM System thread so it will get more publicity and help others not to fall into this trap? I think the funniest thing about the guy is that he is always sticking up for the system, although he claims it is not him. If you go to the JM thread and you will see several times he states "I am not John Morrison. John Morrison is a scam artist, I just worked for the guy. I will say the system is great." If your not the guy then give it a rest already. Has anyone noticed this about the scumbag?
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                                          • topgame85
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 03-30-08
                                            • 12325

                                            #22
                                            Betus got slapped here
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                                            • bobbyfk
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 01-19-09
                                              • 15218

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by fiveteamer
                                              Slim did you get your 30 bones back yet guy?

                                              I've never seen a guy so pissed over $30 before in my life
                                              yes he FINALLY contacted them and got his money back
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                                              • jj28
                                                SBR Hustler
                                                • 02-19-09
                                                • 71

                                                #24
                                                Well. I started the system this year after the all star break, and I didn't lose once. Im up actually 5300 on it. And what dumbarse is going to bet on betus when the others are offering more. Just wage on a different provider. Problem solved. Not trying to be critical of your video, but, I guess for me, I jsut dont feel like i got scammed. I've been losing consistently 3-500 a week when I was just waging on my own opinions. Now Im winning like 500-1000 / week.

                                                Scammed? maybe if you use that betus provider, b/c that 2 point difference is a huge difference in this system. But, uh yea...Just use a different provider. Did I get scammed? hmm......

                                                My wallet doesn't feel like it. Its all about money management. Also, I found my own little unique way of buying 3 points for free. That I will keep to myself. So the bet a and bet b of the system, you can essentially get for -110 instead of -170.
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                                                • xyz
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 02-14-08
                                                  • 521

                                                  #25
                                                  Forget any system you have ever heard of, this guy's system of getting 3 points for free is definitely worth paying for

                                                  Originally posted by jj28
                                                  Also, I found my own little unique way of buying 3 points for free. That I will keep to myself. So the bet a and bet b of the system, you can essentially get for -110 instead of -170.
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                                                  • XO-bets
                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                    • 04-02-09
                                                    • 1

                                                    #26
                                                    The relationship between JM and Betus is really the question. They may work out a deal between them that he'll lead people to sign up at Betus site, but then he'll get back something in return like they let him cash out with no problem like others.

                                                    Justin, you are right about the lines being adjusted if you signed up under his affiliate link with Betus. I personally bought JM system and also signed up under his affiliate link with Betus. I noticed whenever the bet for a particular match-up recommended by JM is on. Betus will adjust the line to give the house more edge.

                                                    As far as JM system. If you set up your own wagering rule every time you bet and not too greedy with every bet, you will be on the winning side at the end. The key to this is money management.

                                                    So to solve the line adjusting problem, buy the system and open account elsewhere to avoid line adjusting. I am cashing out my account with Betus and with problems that people in the forum are having now. I hope they will send me a check.

                                                    BTW, I am not affiliating with JM.
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                                                    • Fischnasty
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 02-10-09
                                                      • 1931

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by XO-bets
                                                      As far as JM system. If you set up your own wagering rule every time you bet and not too greedy with every bet, you will be on the winning side at the end. The key to this is money management.
                                                      Originally posted by XO-bets
                                                      buy the system and open account elsewhere to avoid line adjusting.
                                                      Originally posted by XO-bets
                                                      BTW, I am not affiliating with JM.
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                                                      • SportsInsights
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 01-05-09
                                                        • 119

                                                        #28
                                                        I'm with jmathes here....Justin, why don't you post your video on the various Sports Betting Champ threads here? I think you did an excellent job exposing this fraud. The thing that makes this scam work is the people that continually push it like jj28, Jaarel, and the thread "The JM "Chase system" $1000 bank roll." It’s near impossible to find a legit review of the Sports Betting Champ. If you do a Google search on Morrison or the Sports Betting Champ all you get are fakes sites that all look the same and say that this isn't a scam. The Morrison scam machine has flooded the Internet with fake sites, posters, and testimonials. I posted a story about this on my blog, and within 1 day I had some guy JD immediately replying that Morrison’s system works. He started off by saying that he thinks it’s a scam also but continually supports it. He sent at least 1 reply every day for weeks. It’s been proven a 100 times over that progressive systems don’t work. All it takes is one losing streak going 0-5 and your bankroll is wiped out. Justin hit the key points of this scam.

                                                        #1 Progressive Systems don’t work in the long the run. It gets really ugly quick.

                                                        #2 Morrison doesn’t offer Spreads with his plays, having that “grey” area distorts his results….was it LA +5 or LA +6 coupled with the fact that he makes you buy 3pts causes a lot of confusion and again distorts his win %. Below is a chart from an article I published a couple years ago that shows the percentage of games that ends within a given number of points in the NBA, for the period 10/31/03 to 1/25/07. As you can see, 5.5% of the games fall within 0.5 points of the point spread. That’s more than 1 in 20. In addition, games fall within 1 point of the spread: 1 out of every 10 games. By not knowing the spread Morrison is using means that 1 in 10 games always go his way while everyone has that as a lose.

                                                        Spread
                                                        0 = 2%
                                                        .5 = 5.5%
                                                        1.0 = 9.7%
                                                        1.5 = 13.%

                                                        #3 Buying 3pts causes his win percentage to dramatically increase but remember you’re laying -170 on most games which means you need to achieve an astronomically high win % jus to breakeven. Plus remember he’s typically getting an extra 1pt by not publishing the spread he using. I haven’t’ done the math but I guess you have to hit close to 65% of your games just too breakeven.

                                                        #4 It’s impossible to verify anything Morrison claims both about his record and his credentials.

                                                        #5 It’s impossible to find a legitimate site to read an impartial review of Morrison system. He’s packed the Internet with scam sites with video testimonials that claim to be impartial.

                                                        I hate to see people getting scammed, and this is by far one of the worst betting scam out there.

                                                        Dan
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                                                        • jmathes
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 02-19-09
                                                          • 2385

                                                          #29
                                                          One of the funniest things about his scam is the people on his website that he has advertising for him. Is he really serious? The icing on the cake is the winning ticket on his homepage from the Hilton betting $9,999.00 on the Bobcats to cover the spread on 2/25/09. It is a brilliant marketing strategy by putting this "winning ticket" up. This is probably the biggest selling point when people go to his site to check out his systems. Well that and the Lamborghini (paid for by the winnings-lol). I guarantee you he did one of two things: bought a ticket on the opposite side of the line, which happened to be for Sacramento that day. This way he lost a little bit of money on the juice but the advertising pays for itself. Yeah, he may have had some money on that game but either way no intelligent sports bettor would ever make that wager. OR he purchased this ticket, photocopied, then canceled immediately. We will never know the mystery behind this man, but if we expose him enough he could possibly be the next ShamWow guy!
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                                                          • MJT1212
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 02-16-09
                                                            • 5124

                                                            #30
                                                            yea he got me when i was first starting out
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                                                            • MJT1212
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 02-16-09
                                                              • 5124

                                                              #31
                                                              requested my money back like the guarantee claims and he said that "if you do not win money with my system i will gladly refund but you have been winning money"
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                                                              • Shark79
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 11-19-07
                                                                • 11211

                                                                #32
                                                                Justin.

                                                                Post his plays here on a daily basis ... we can discuss them and take the other side ... play at the books that we want and have 100 of us profit from it.
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                                                                • blackbart
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 12-04-07
                                                                  • 3838

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by jj28
                                                                  Well. I started the system this year after the all star break, and I didn't lose once. Im up actually 5300 on it. And what dumbarse is going to bet on betus when the others are offering more. Just wage on a different provider. Problem solved. Not trying to be critical of your video, but, I guess for me, I jsut dont feel like i got scammed. I've been losing consistently 3-500 a week when I was just waging on my own opinions. Now Im winning like 500-1000 / week.

                                                                  Scammed? maybe if you use that betus provider, b/c that 2 point difference is a huge difference in this system. But, uh yea...Just use a different provider. Did I get scammed? hmm......

                                                                  My wallet doesn't feel like it. Its all about money management. Also, I found my own little unique way of buying 3 points for free. That I will keep to myself. So the bet a and bet b of the system, you can essentially get for -110 instead of -170.
                                                                  which book allows you too buy the 3 points? and for how much?
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                                                                  • JoshW
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 08-10-05
                                                                    • 3431

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Hell of a find Justin. Well done.
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                                                                    • SportsInsights
                                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                                      • 01-05-09
                                                                      • 119

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Shark79,

                                                                      Posting his plays only adds to the confusion because he does not post spreads with his plays, so there is always a .5 pt to 1 pt grey area...that somehow always works in his favor. He always buys at least 3pts which trumps up his win % significantly distorting his results. To further complicate things he only counts a lost after three consecutive lose but 3 loses typically equal more than 12units. So in the real world he went 1-2, and has to put 12units to win 1unit on Bet C, if he wins this monster bet he’s 2-0 in Morrison world. All it takes it one stretch of going 0-5 to bankrupt most bettors starting with only betting 2% of their bankroll. Using Morrison account tricks, he only has to post 2 loses to be down over -24units for the season. Can you imagine how stressed out a $100 bettor would be putting up $1200 just to win $100?

                                                                      Dan
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