Is Coach K the most overrated coach in college?

**Fiasco** · 03-26-09, 11:35 PM

duh

**TPowell** · 03-26-09, 11:54 PM

no he wouldnt, he cant coach in todays game

Rick Pitino, Mike Anderson, Mark Few, John Calipari (DIRTY), Jamie Dixon, Jay Wright, Herb Sendek, Roy Williams, Tom Izzo, Matt Painter, Jeff Capel, Rick Barnes, Calhoun, Tubby Smith, JOHN BELIEIN, Tom Crean, Bruce Weber, Billy Donovan, Jim Boeheim, John Thompson III

thats 20

**tullamore** · 03-26-09, 11:58 PM

Originally posted by TPowell

no he wouldnt, he cant coach in todays game

Rick Pitino, Mike Anderson, Mark Few, John Calipari (DIRTY), Jamie Dixon, Jay Wright, Herb Sendek, Roy Williams, Tom Izzo, Matt Painter, Jeff Capel, Rick Barnes, Calhoun, Tubby Smith, JOHN BELIEIN, Tom Crean, Bruce Weber, Billy Donovan, Jim Boeheim, John Thompson III

thats 20

I think his biggest problem is he cant recruit the type of players that it takes to win 2009. I am not sure if this is because of his stubborness of not recruiting players that will leave early or the Duke admissions standards.

**raydog** · 03-27-09, 12:17 AM

the guy is a great coach. gets so-so talent and coaches the shit out of them. (there are very few guys out there who can recruit white kids and have a chance almost every year)

why would you say calipari is dirty? you have no idea what you are talking about. do you think that because the guy is the best recruiter in college, that he is cheating? the guy is as clean as they come. find me one rules violation on the guy... the kids know that when they come to memphis, they will win a lot of games, have a chance to go deep in the tourney and leave for the nba within a few years. the top talent that he gets knows that they wont stay in school. they go to school there now because its easier to make grades for a few years and get as much press as anyone else in the country. please keep ignorant comments to yourself until you have some sort of proof on this so called cheating. sorry that its easier to get into memphis than it is to get into your favorite college.

**tullamore** · 03-27-09, 12:22 AM

Originally posted by raydog

the guy is a great coach. gets so-so talent and coaches the shit out of them. (there are very few guys out there who can recruit white kids and have a chance almost every year)

why would you say calipari is dirty? you have no idea what you are talking about. do you think that because the guy is the best recruiter in college, that he is cheating? the guy is as clean as they come. find me one rules violation on the guy... the kids know that when they come to memphis, they will win a lot of games, have a chance to go deep in the tourney and leave for the nba within a few years. the top talent that he gets knows that they wont stay in school. they go to school there now because its easier to make grades for a few years and get as much press as anyone else in the country. please keep ignorant comments to yourself until you have some sort of proof on this so called cheating. sorry that its easier to get into memphis than it is to get into your favorite college.

I haven't really followed Calipari all that much at Memphis, but he was dirty at UMass.

**raydog** · 03-27-09, 12:32 AM

when he was at umass, there was only a handful of coaches who werent dirty.

there are so many of those guys who stand to never coach again if they get busted. he has no reason to cheat. like i said, the top players win a bunch of games, get huge attention and dont have to put academics first.(just make grades, which is sometimes hard to do. heh)

**TPowell** · 03-27-09, 11:37 AM

Originally posted by raydog

the guy is a great coach. gets so-so talent and coaches the shit out of them. (there are very few guys out there who can recruit white kids and have a chance almost every year)

why would you say calipari is dirty? you have no idea what you are talking about. do you think that because the guy is the best recruiter in college, that he is cheating? the guy is as clean as they come. find me one rules violation on the guy... the kids know that when they come to memphis, they will win a lot of games, have a chance to go deep in the tourney and leave for the nba within a few years. the top talent that he gets knows that they wont stay in school. they go to school there now because its easier to make grades for a few years and get as much press as anyone else in the country. please keep ignorant comments to yourself until you have some sort of proof on this so called cheating. sorry that its easier to get into memphis than it is to get into your favorite college.

World Wide Wes....

**fiveteamer** · 03-27-09, 11:48 AM

There isn't a guy in this thread that could get accepted at Duke, let alone play basketball there.

**jjgold** · 03-27-09, 11:49 AM

It is not coach K, players make the coaches lets not forget that. Coach K cannot get the talent like the other schools anymore. College sports comes down to being a good recruiter not a coach. Anyone can win with teams like Kansas, NC, Louisvile, ect. I will see we never would of won a gold this year if a pro coach coached the nba stars or for that matter any other college coach.

**pavyracer** · 03-27-09, 11:50 AM

Coach K is a failure. If you can't recruit the best negro athletes you should step down.

**ryanXL977** · 03-27-09, 11:50 AM

you want dirty , you want a guy who should be in jail

bo ryan

**Bread** · 03-27-09, 11:51 AM

He's fallen apart ever since he lost Cherokee Parks.

But seriously, how can you expect ANYONE to recover from a loss like Cherokee Parks???

**Vonnegut** · 03-27-09, 11:52 AM

I loved watching Duke get destroyed by Nova last night. Loved it.

**pavyracer** · 03-27-09, 11:52 AM

Cherokee Parks...

**TPowell** · 03-27-09, 11:56 AM

Bo Ryan? That guy recruits more white guys than Coach K

**fiveteamer** · 03-27-09, 11:57 AM

difference between smart white guys and dumb white guys.

If you go to Duke, chances are you will make it.

**Willie Bee** · 03-27-09, 12:03 PM

Originally posted by tullamore

People seem to love this guy, or atleast the media does. But, if you were a college AD and needed to hire a coach would Coach K make your top 20 list? I dont see it.

He'd make my Top 2 with Jim Boeheim. Seriously, wouldn't make your Top 20, Tully? The guy can recruit the right people for his system. Love how when his teams don't go all the way, he's overrated and Duke sucks; when the Blue Devils do go all the way or make the Final Four, it's because the refs gave them the game

It's the same thing with the Yankees -- when they win it's, "Oh, they just bought the pennant," and when they lose they're bashed for spending too much money. Success breeds more hatred by American sports fans than failure.

**Dark Horse** · 03-27-09, 12:03 PM

Originally posted by Vonnegut

I loved watching Duke get destroyed by Nova last night. Loved it.

Same here. lol

Coach K to me looks like Konstant Konstipation. And he thinks coaching means to create little clones of himself. The idiots buy it too.

**BetterBetter** · 03-27-09, 12:23 PM

Originally posted by Willie Bee

It's the same thing with the Yankees -- when they win it's, "Oh, they just bought the pennant," and when they lose they're bashed for spending too much money.

What part of that isn't true? They don't develope players for chit! They offer free agents more money than anyone else can (essentially "buying" them). And if they don't win the pennant and have the highest team salary than I would certainly say they spent too much.

Organization A has a team salary of X and wins the world series. Organization B has a team salary of 2X and does not.
Therefore Organization B payed too much money.

And yes Coach K is overrated too. I already said that before last nights game.

**Ralphie1412** · 03-27-09, 12:23 PM

TPowell you are actually pretty smart sometimes, but to say no is just insane. Obviously u are anti carolina basketball, BUT to think coach K isnt a great coach is embarrasing. Ask the olympic team what they think. And you lost all credit the second you put john thompson III on your list, please take that back.

**BetterBetter** · 03-27-09, 12:32 PM

Originally posted by Ralphie1412

Obviously u are anti carolina basketball, BUT to think coach K isnt a great coach is embarrasing.

**TPowell** · 03-27-09, 12:40 PM

I like JT3 to be honest, he's doing a great job recruiting and I think he'll do great things in the coming years, plus he's already took them to a Final 4 not too long ago

**BatemanPatrickl** · 03-27-09, 01:03 PM

He is overhyped but that's what happens when Dick Vitale licks your balls and you get every call at home.

Duke is a program on the decline.

**nobshine** · 03-27-09, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by ryanXL977

you want dirty , you want a guy who should be in jail

bo ryan

What you got on Bo Ryan?

**tullamore** · 03-27-09, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by Willie Bee

He'd make my Top 2 with Jim Boeheim. Seriously, wouldn't make your Top 20, Tully? The guy can recruit the right people for his system. Love how when his teams don't go all the way, he's overrated and Duke sucks; when the Blue Devils do go all the way or make the Final Four, it's because the refs gave them the game

It's the same thing with the Yankees -- when they win it's, "Oh, they just bought the pennant," and when they lose they're bashed for spending too much money. Success breeds more hatred by American sports fans than failure.

Willie, I think the biggest thing is he doesn't want to recruit players that will leave early. He has stated that he wants his players to graduate, which should be commended. I remember seeing a program on 60 minutes or Real Sports about how Duke basketball players can still graduate within 3 years, by taking summer classes and leave one year early. It all seemed to change after Maggatte and William Avery left early. I feel the game is changing you are not going to get the elite players to stay 4 years and probably not even 3. You need these players to win championships, if the Duke admin is ok with sweet 16 births, then there is no need to change. Also Duke is a great academic school, recruits my want to go to a more lax academic achool and just concentrate on baskeball.

Duke get calls because they try and take a lot of charges. If anything in the beginning of the 2nd half of the Nova game, the calls were going against Duke.

**ryanXL977** · 03-27-09, 01:43 PM

Originally posted by nobshine

What you got on Bo Ryan?

watch the fsu game
basically hit douglas in the head and legs over and over
opretty shameful

i hate wisconsin bball so much
its unwatchable garbage
they cant score so they just dick around

that , to me, is a bad coach

**tullamore** · 03-27-09, 01:47 PM

Originally posted by ryanXL977

watch the fsu game
basically hit douglas in the head and legs over and over
opretty shameful

i hate wisconsin bball so much
its unwatchable garbage
they cant score so they just dick around

that , to me, is a bad coach

They cant score, so they do what they have to, to win. To me thats a great coach, most coaches dont care about the people watching on tv, they care about winning the game. The guy has won at every school he has been at.

**PsychoQ** · 03-27-09, 01:51 PM

yes yes i have been saying it all year..

**ryanXL977** · 03-27-09, 01:53 PM

Originally posted by tullamore

They cant score, so they do what they have to, to win. To me thats a great coach, most coaches dont care about the people watching on tv, they care about winning the game. The guy has won at every school he has been at.

i know lots of people feel that way . i just happen to hate the dirty way they play. learn to score. go get some blacks who can play instead of these stiff whites.

i hate wisconsin

**Doc JS** · 03-27-09, 04:17 PM

I believe the Blue Devils finished 30-7 this season and made the Sweet 16...There aren't too many places in America where that kind of season would be considered a failure...

Doc

**nobshine** · 03-27-09, 04:20 PM

Originally posted by ryanXL977

i know lots of people feel that way . i just happen to hate the dirty way they play. learn to score. go get some blacks who can play instead of these stiff whites.

i hate wisconsin

Wow, you must be a youngster. Take a look at Bo Ryans career record and you will find he has won at every level. I take it you lost on FS.

Wisky is old school hoops that works. It may not be a fashion that you like but calling Ryan a crap coach is unreal. You can hate all you want but look at the record and the types of players he has. Ryan is not a thug coach. He demands defense. Why bring race into it? He is one of the more feared coaches around. Ask any big 10 coach.

He gets more out of little than any coach I know. I will not debate this issue. Do your homework.

**ryanXL977** · 03-27-09, 04:21 PM

i think he is dirty and i dont like the way they play
yes, i lost fsu, hence i am bitter

i just hate that cheap shit
learn to play offense

**nobshine** · 03-27-09, 04:42 PM

Originally posted by ryanXL977

i think he is dirty and i dont like the way they play
yes, i lost fsu, hence i am bitter

i just hate that cheap shit
learn to play offense

I understand. If you want to make it in this long term let the emotions aside. I had a heart breaker with the Marq. loss but its over. I am associated with the program so I hurt for the seniors but not my bankroll.

**TPowell** · 03-27-09, 04:45 PM

RYan, you're way off pal. I hate watching Wisky play because of how slow they are but Ryan is a good coach.