Too Easy to Move the BetCris Line!

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  • TheGambler
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 07-16-06
    • 972

    #1
    Too Easy to Move the BetCris Line!
    for such a big book, it amazes me how I can bet a dime on a baseball game about an hour before the first pitch and that dime will actually move the line from about .05points. I just made a dime bet on the alternate run line and the line went from 1.45 to 1.4 after i made the bet. it just seems weird b/c a dime bet at pinnacle won't even phase the line the majority of the time. not a problem at all i just find it weird that a dime will influence the line. i guess it was the alternate line but still...
  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #2
    most people do not bet the alternate rl therefore a $1000 bet will move the line
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    • freebie
      SBR MVP
      • 08-10-05
      • 1174

      #3
      also because Cris has 20cents line and not many people play there.
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      • rm18
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 09-20-05
        • 22291

        #4
        They do move easy though, they were moving FIBA lines a full point off of $500 bets by me back in August
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        • Patrick McIrish
          SBR MVP
          • 09-15-05
          • 2864

          #5
          Originally posted by freebie
          also because Cris has 20cents line and not many people play there.

          Very true. Not many educated gamblers play CRIS for baseball.
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          • moses millsap
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 08-25-05
            • 8289

            #6
            Max limit nickel bets at Pinnacle (strikeout props) will also move the line quite a bit.
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            • pags11
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 08-18-05
              • 12264

              #7
              it always does feel good to move a line though, doesn't it gambler?...it's a damn good feeling...
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              • TheGambler
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 07-16-06
                • 972

                #8
                you're right Pags, I guess it is more of an ego thing!!!! Makes me feel like I got them for a good number. Ya, i don't normally play baseball at CRIS but the line i wanted was 1.45 at Cris and 1.41 at Pinny.
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                • JoshW
                  SBR MVP
                  • 08-10-05
                  • 3431

                  #9
                  If you bet the max on anything, it is likely going to move the line significantly.

                  Higher juice sometimes allows the book to move more quickly, but in some cases it makes the linesmaker lazy and they don't move at all.
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                  • pags11
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 08-18-05
                    • 12264

                    #10
                    I also think books look at who the wager comes from and then the size in terms of moving the line...
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                    • moses millsap
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 08-25-05
                      • 8289

                      #11
                      Originally posted by pags11
                      I also think books look at who the wager comes from and then the size in terms of moving the line...
                      Not for alternate RLs or props. They auto move, imo.
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                      • pags11
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 08-18-05
                        • 12264

                        #12
                        possibly owned, especially at night and high times during the day...opinionated books (like Cascade) definitely look at who the actions coming from with sides and totals...
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                        • onlooker
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 08-10-05
                          • 36572

                          #13
                          Well just tonight, when I hit the Devils ML at +122, it moved down to +115. I think it was just the fact that late money was coming in on the Devils at the time. But it did look like I moved it.

                          This was at Pinnacle.

                          I moved a A's runline at a Station Casino when I bet it for the max. That was about 2 years ago I think it was.

                          Those are the only ones I remember, or noticed.
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                          • bigboydan
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 08-10-05
                            • 55420

                            #14
                            Originally posted by onlòóker

                            I moved a A's runline at a Station Casino when I bet it for the max. That was about 2 years ago I think it was.
                            Ah yes, I remember that game... a Mr.B special
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                            • chano
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 07-02-06
                              • 602

                              #15
                              Originally posted by TheGambler
                              for such a big book, it amazes me how I can bet a dime on a baseball game about an hour before the first pitch and that dime will actually move the line from about .05points. I just made a dime bet on the alternate run line and the line went from 1.45 to 1.4 after i made the bet. it just seems weird b/c a dime bet at pinnacle won't even phase the line the majority of the time. not a problem at all i just find it weird that a dime will influence the line. i guess it was the alternate line but still...
                              Do you think you are the only one making a bet on that game at that time? They have a few customers, last I checked.
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                              • chano
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 07-02-06
                                • 602

                                #16
                                Originally posted by freebie
                                also because Cris has 20cents line and not many people play there.
                                Not many as in Bonus whore/forum players. But they do have a few players. (I Think)
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                                • ourbet
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 12-23-05
                                  • 464

                                  #17
                                  Woo Hoo! I just moved the line at Pinny (SBR A+) by 1 cent and by 5 cents at Skybook (SBR A-). It's the very first time I've ever seen my wager affect a line.
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                                  • LineHunter
                                    SBR Rookie
                                    • 10-05-06
                                    • 22

                                    #18
                                    get real

                                    there is no way to know whether your 500 or 1000 was the reason the line moved
                                    there may have been another 10 or 100 players hitting the same line in the same time frame
                                    or one truly big player or respected player hitting your line
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                                    • ourbet
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 12-23-05
                                      • 464

                                      #19
                                      No way? Way! Don't think that there's too many punters asian handicapping on Reading vs. Chelski, but I could be wrong.
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                                      • LineHunter
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 10-05-06
                                        • 22

                                        #20
                                        ourbet,
                                        obviously I'm not talking about or remotely interested in your small market example.
                                        I'm talking about big, high action markets, which is the example being discussed.
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