Get out of low rated books NOW!

[Scorpion]

Their UK players are listening. If you do decide to keep money there, keep with the major brands like PlayersOnly, Hollywood, Sportsbook, Sportingbet and BetUSA & Gambling.net, which has UK sportsbooks that use Finsoft under SBT. I wouldn't suggest players go looking for any good futures there.

Bill,
Wich of these three do you prefer?
gambling.bet
betonUSA
playersonly

[Bill Dozer]

Bill,
Wich of these three do you prefer?
gambling.bet
betonUSA
playersonly

BetOnUSA is not part of the group. Their company leases software from World Gaming and Futurebet but operates independently. This is the last WG user left that is not operating out of the SBT/WG facility. They have cheated a lot of people.

Gambling.net would have to be the choice from that list.

[BigDog]

Kind of suprised you guys are worried about Wagerweb/Casablanca....They've been around a long time with zero payout complaints.....Why do you feel they are a risk?

[SBR_John]

BigDog,
It's more of a case that we are getting reports of very heavy withdraws from all books. This is not a shot at Wagerweb, Bestlines, Las Palmas or the other decent mid tier books that we are recommending folks get out of. It's more that our thoughts are for now players should only be in the top books while we have a chance to measure the fallout. We want to do all we can to protect you guys and let you know that there is trouble out there.

[Stumpage]

Seeing that a lot of books have been brought up in this thread, figure this is a good place to add another. Made a withdrawal from Badlands today (B- rating I believe) for a few thousand, and it went smoothly as the money hit my Neteller account by dinner time. So it would appear no problem there.....

[LineHunter]

the only thing that will do us in is us

The law, when signed:
1. will not make what players do illegal.
2. will not eliminate the ability to transfer money, though it may be slightly less convenient, and even that may take months to happen, and may never happen due to legal and legislative challenges.

Therefore, the only threat to us is books going under because too many players panic and pull their money or do not send money they would normally send. That could cause a serious financial problem even for solid books.

If you bail on low-rated books, send that money to a top book rather than bring it home.

Whether we get hurt or not, whether books go under or not, is in our hands.

Don’t panic. Be rational. Carry on business as usual.

[BigBollocks]

SBR John I currently have multiple five figure futures pending at 5Dimes. Do you think I'll have a good chance of getting my money out should they win after the Super Bowl (Feb. 4th)? Thanks in advance....

[Patrick McIrish]

I agree. My top four are:
Pinny, CRIS, Greek, wsex

Agree. If I was posting up those would be the 4 I would primarily stick with in the near future. Might be alright in other places but you know you'll be alright in these 4 books.

[pags11]

good to hear you guys are checking in with SBR brass regarding some of the books you play with...better to be safe than sorry at this point...

[SBR_John]

SBR John I currently have multiple five figure futures pending at 5Dimes. Do you think I'll have a good chance of getting my money out should they win after the Super Bowl (Feb. 4th)? Thanks in advance....

Sleep well, you are fine at 5Dimes. Good luck with your futures bet.

[BigBollocks]

Thanks SBRJohn, being based out of Costa Rica as well as being a straight shooter I can't tell you how pleased I am to hear you say that as 5Dimes is one of my most preferred books (and also where my most promising futures are locked up).

Pags I couldn't agree more. I write private e-mails to SBR brass from time to time and am a fairly large player in many sportsbooks (some might even say whale LOL), but I think the recent happenings have brought many of us out of our shells, and there is NOWHERE more straight forward and helpful to us players than SBR. Thanks again SBR for all your hard work for those of us who love to handicap sports in the comfort of our own homes and like to know we'll get paid on the offhand chance that we win!

[RickySteve]

SBR John I currently have multiple five figure futures pending at 5Dimes. Do you think I'll have a good chance of getting my money out should they win after the Super Bowl (Feb. 4th)? Thanks in advance....

5Dimes doesn't even take 4-figure futures wagers, let alone 5.

[Chuck Sims]

5Dimes doesn't even take 4-figure futures wagers, let alone 5.

Speaking in general, if you are a proven loser they will. Once a sportsbook sizes you up as a loser, your limits are raised considerably.

[fabric86]

What about Wagerweb.com?

[Dark Horse]

Already discussed in the thread.

[moses millsap]

John,

Security with Legendz?

[pags11]

bigbollocks,

definitely man...

[SBR_John]

Legendz is detailed in this thread but the short is: No problems here. If anything, they are actually stronger in the new enviroment because they do not depend on money processors for much of their business, a segement of their business that is sure to get even stronger.

[pags11]

thanks for the info. on legendz john...have liked my experience with them so far...

[applepicks]

Get out of BETED now if possible. Several players are being "Trapped" by them. Players are down several thousand and now nickel bettors are limited to 25.00 bets. No way to recoup the loses. A book I would tell everyone to get out of now.

[SBR_John]

They are limiting guys who are down? Thats some strange risk control. In any case, I agree with the apple. This is not the quality level one should be in, at least in the short run.

[patswin]

Why the concern with Wagerweb, I thought they were a "safe" book? I got an offer today for 30% reload bonus, should I not consider putting any funds there?

[tennis28]

This thread is fantastic.

John, wondering what your take on betwsc.com is?

[ourbet]

Why the concern with Wagerweb, I thought they were a "safe" book? I got an offer today for 30% reload bonus, should I not consider putting any funds there?

Well for one, their rollover is a bit steep...like 10x the last time I checked.

[imgv94]

bump...

JOHN can I get your take on Bet Trojan again.. And how about Betmania.. What would advise small to mid money players to do?

[Yoshi]

Trojan still pay as fast as they always did, i think they are safe.
Better than Betmania imo.

[pags11]

bet trojan is quick to limit winners though...

[El Helado Patata]

Why should you take out money from WagerWeb, First fidelity/youwager?

I always wondered why Parbet and Expekt are rated that badly? Never had problems with any of them (especially not Expekt) and they are really big in scandinavia .

[pavyracer]

I cannot see even B books making it anymore, not that the books are bad but they cannot handle inability to get money there and their focus is too based on usa customers.

I am now only playing at

Pinny
Cris
Greek

I do not give a fuk what the lines are either when I bet, I am going with the top 3 in the world.

Fuk you America

JJ is it safe to play at other books now?

[jjgold]

Amazing Paver how accurate I always am with books. I am now at RebateWager, Jamaica, 5 Dimes decent figures in each.

[Shahbucks]

thanks for this heads up with the bill. I need to do a few cash out before next week.

[Santo]

Unless I'm mistaken they got a 3-month extension on implementing the restrictions.