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  • The Giant
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    • 01-21-12
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    #1
    Who is the second best player in baseball?
    Talking about hitters only.

    Obviously Mike Trout is #1.
  • Darkside Magick
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 05-28-10
    • 12638

    #2
    Andrew Mcutchen
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    • MickeyMan
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 10-20-09
      • 5091

      #3
      Miggy
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      • TheMoneyShot
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        • 02-14-07
        • 28690

        #4
        Trout needs to stop juicing. Thick ass neck on the guy. Let me guess... you get that kind of neck and speed by eating hamburgers right?
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        • Chi_archie
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 07-22-08
          • 63182

          #5
          Tulo
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          • Dollars2Donuts
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            • 02-07-13
            • 8803

            #6
            Cabrera and it isn't even close....in fact there would be a great arguement for Miggy being better. Who would I want now considering age and everything? Trout, of course......but Miguel is one hell of a hitter.
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            • King Mayan
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              • 09-22-10
              • 21330

              #7
              trout
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              • bruins35
                SBR MVP
                • 09-19-11
                • 4011

                #8
                Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                Trout needs to stop juicing. Thick ass neck on the guy. Let me guess... you get that kind of neck and speed by eating hamburgers right?
                He get's a pass because he is the face of mlb.clearly hes on roids
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                • James Marques
                  SBR MVP
                  • 03-04-14
                  • 1605

                  #9
                  LeBron James
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                  • The Giant
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                    • 01-21-12
                    • 21480

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Dollars2Donuts
                    Cabrera and it isn't even close....in fact there would be a great arguement for Miggy being better. Who would I want now considering age and everything? Trout, of course......but Miguel is one hell of a hitter.
                    There really isn't one thing Miguel Cabrera does better than Mike Trout.
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                    • Kermit
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                      • 09-27-10
                      • 32823

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Darkside Magick
                      Andrew Mcutchen
                      I would agree.
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                      • Dollars2Donuts
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 02-07-13
                        • 8803

                        #12
                        Originally posted by The Giant
                        There really isn't one thing Miguel Cabrera does better than Mike Trout.
                        Ummmmmm......huh? I love Trout, but given them both as 21 year olds I would take Miguel in a heartbeat. He drives in runs and he plays every game. Trout is a better defender I will give him that, with better speed, but it isn't tough to find a speedy little donkey to play CF and bat 9th who can cover the same amount of ground.

                        Cabrera has better OPS and an average 10 points higher, he played on some crappy teams in Miami and didn't play in a ballpark like the Angels do. He didn't have the protection that Trout has either.....like almost never.....

                        ALSO, Trouts speed is diminishing. This year as a 22 year old Trout will have 15 SBs and by the time he is 26 he will be stealing less than I would be. He is carrying a ton of weight and that will have an effect for sure.

                        If you put Miguel on this Angels team at 20 years old he would have numbers that would crush Trout.


                        Anyway....those two guys are the best positional players in MLB and it is kind of a moot point....both are awesome, but it isn't THAT clear cut.
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                        • SamDiamond
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                          • 10-19-12
                          • 6107

                          #13
                          Originally posted by The Giant
                          There really isn't one thing Miguel Cabrera does better than Mike Trout.


                          Trolly McTroll Giant...

                          Tulo only has a higher average, better OPS, Slugging %, and OBP than Trout.
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                          • stealthyburrito
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                            • 05-12-09
                            • 21563

                            #14
                            Anthony rendon
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                            • The Giant
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                              • 01-21-12
                              • 21480

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Dollars2Donuts
                              Ummmmmm......huh? I love Trout, but given them both as 21 year olds I would take Miguel in a heartbeat. He drives in runs and he plays every game. Trout is a better defender I will give him that, with better speed, but it isn't tough to find a speedy little donkey to play CF and bat 9th who can cover the same amount of ground.

                              Cabrera has better OPS and an average 10 points higher, he played on some crappy teams in Miami and didn't play in a ballpark like the Angels do. He didn't have the protection that Trout has either.....like almost never.....

                              ALSO, Trouts speed is diminishing. This year as a 22 year old Trout will have 15 SBs and by the time he is 26 he will be stealing less than I would be. He is carrying a ton of weight and that will have an effect for sure.

                              If you put Miguel on this Angels team at 20 years old he would have numbers that would crush Trout.


                              Anyway....those two guys are the best positional players in MLB and it is kind of a moot point....both are awesome, but it isn't THAT clear cut.
                              I'm talking about the best player today. If we were talking about 10 years ago I would take Albert Pujols. Mike Trout is ahead of Miguel Cabrera in just about every stat this season.

                              And his speed isn't diminishing, they just don't like him running much. No idea why, but the Angels do have a big meatball for a manager.
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                              • Dollars2Donuts
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                                • 02-07-13
                                • 8803

                                #16
                                Originally posted by SamDiamond


                                Trolly McTroll Giant...

                                Tulo only has a higher average, better OPS, Slugging %, and OBP than Trout.
                                And plays in Colorado and has a tough time staying healthy.

                                Better value as a positional player, but I am man not so sure his numbers would be totally comparable. What are his lifetime splits? If they are split 52-48 (like the average player) then I would say he was in the discussion if he played 155 games per year.
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                                • Dollars2Donuts
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                                  • 02-07-13
                                  • 8803

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by The Giant
                                  I'm talking about the best player today. If we were talking about 10 years ago I would take Albert Pujols. Mike Trout is ahead of Miguel Cabrera in just about every stat this season.

                                  And his speed isn't diminishing, they just don't like him running much. No idea why, but the Angels do have a big meatball for a manager.
                                  Ok, then the answer to your question is Miguel Cabrera, but it is close.
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                                  • The Giant
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                                    • 01-21-12
                                    • 21480

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by SamDiamond


                                    Trolly McTroll Giant...

                                    Tulo only has a higher average, better OPS, Slugging %, and OBP than Trout.
                                    What does that have to do with what you quoted?

                                    Tulo is a great player. At home.
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                                    • TheMetsSuck
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                                      • 01-14-12
                                      • 6147

                                      #19
                                      jose abreu
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                                      • The Giant
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                                        • 01-21-12
                                        • 21480

                                        #20
                                        I'm surprised no one has said Giancarlo Stanton.
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                                        • Boner_18
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 08-24-08
                                          • 8301

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by The Giant
                                          There really isn't one thing Miguel Cabrera does better than Mike Trout.
                                          Drunk driving. But he's got a lot more practice.
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                                          • jjgold
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 07-20-05
                                            • 388208

                                            #22
                                            There is sure not a big list to choose from anymore

                                            most guys bat 230 or so now
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                                            • remeedella
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 04-17-12
                                              • 4089

                                              #23
                                              it is Remeedella, of course
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                                              • k13
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                                                • 07-16-10
                                                • 18130

                                                #24
                                                Trout ain't even that good just most players suck these days.

                                                Trout not even a top 50 player in the late 90's .
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                                                • tokio
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 03-30-10
                                                  • 2150

                                                  #25
                                                  Trout is fukken huge for a 22yr old. I mean seriously, fukken huge.
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                                                  • boss_of_um
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 08-18-11
                                                    • 1092

                                                    #26
                                                    Kershaw
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                                                    • boss_of_um
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 08-18-11
                                                      • 1092

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by k13
                                                      Trout ain't even that good just most players suck these days.

                                                      Trout not even a top 50 player in the late 90's .
                                                      Yeah who could compete with all those juicers of the late 90's?
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                                                      • ShogunRua
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 12-23-09
                                                        • 4668

                                                        #28
                                                        Adrian Beltre?
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                                                        • stealthyburrito
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 05-12-09
                                                          • 21563

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by The Giant
                                                          I'm surprised no one has said Giancarlo Stanton.
                                                          Hed be worth a mention if he was actually an all around good hitter
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                                                          • easyliving
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 06-25-12
                                                            • 8876

                                                            #30
                                                            J.D Martinez
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                                                            • Kermit
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                                                              • 09-27-10
                                                              • 32823

                                                              #31
                                                              It's hard for me to really take any stats from a Rockies player serious.
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                                                              • Hustler11
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 09-07-12
                                                                • 356

                                                                #32
                                                                well if you were to ask ESPN they would say Lebron James.
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                                                                • Kermit
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                                                                  • 09-27-10
                                                                  • 32823

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Hustler11
                                                                  well if you were to ask ESPN they would say Lebron James.
                                                                  He's pulling a Bo Jackson this year. Playing B-Ball and Wide Receiver for the Browns.
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                                                                  • Hustler11
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 09-07-12
                                                                    • 356

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Kermit
                                                                    He's pulling a Bo Jackson this year. Playing B-Ball and Wide Receiver for the Browns.
                                                                    haha you would think that was true according to them idiots.

                                                                    BREAKING NEWS: MICHAEL SAM TELLS US NOBODY DROPPED THE SOAP SAYS IT'S DUE TO RACISM
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                                                                    • keel44
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 08-01-09
                                                                      • 3363

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Trout
                                                                      Cabrera
                                                                      Kershaw
                                                                      Mcutchen





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