Cavaliers/Suns In-Game-Thread

**Slim** · 03-12-09, 10:54 PM

He screwed my Cavs 1st half.

**rowdy08** · 03-12-09, 10:55 PM

I'm booking Suns 3Q +1 & Cavs 4Q -1

**ryanXL977** · 03-12-09, 10:56 PM

the cavs think they can run and gun and then suddenly play d with 6 mins left
its plain as day what theyre trying to do

i have them at -200, i sure hope they pull it off

**Mac4Lyfe** · 03-12-09, 10:58 PM

Sometimes, I don't know what the hell Lebron is thinking. He refuses to create or drive and just dribble, dribble, jack up a 3??? At times, he seems disinterested.

The most disturbing stat for the Cav's lately is that they are getting killed in the paint, night after night for the past few weeks. Tonight the Suns are 36 to 8 advantage in pts in the paint. That's horrible.

**corona** · 03-12-09, 10:58 PM

Originally posted by nickmanning214

anyone else take the under?

yes.

still crossing my fingers for cleveland's defense to kick in and the game to slow down.

hopefully mike brown lays into the team at halftime.

the best defensive team in the league playing this way is a disgrace.

**ryanXL977** · 03-12-09, 10:59 PM

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

Sometimes, I don't know what the hell Lebron is thinking. He refuses to create or drive and just dribble, dribble, jack up a 3??? At times, he seems disinterested.

The most disturbing stat for the Cav's lately is that they are getting killed in the paint, night after night for the past few weeks. Tonight the Suns are 36 to 8 advantage in pts in the paint. That's horrible.

lbj figured the refs would bail him out
he is such an awful shooter
so awful

the cavs have nothing inside
nothing at all
im telling you, they may be in trouble if they face orlando and boston back to back series. they better pray they get #1 seed

**Mac4Lyfe** · 03-12-09, 11:00 PM

Lebron fukked me 1st half... I'm going with them 2nd half -2.5. Make up yo chit LBJ.

**ryanXL977** · 03-12-09, 11:02 PM

i have no clue which way this game goes
cavs have lef the whole time but never by more than 5 or 6
so its clearly gonna be a game

i swear the cavs just arent that good. i have noclue how they beat everyone, i never understand them
i understand how every other team in every sport wins
just not the cavs
i guess defense? cause lbj cant shoot. most overrate player in the league to me. another nba hype machine

**Mac4Lyfe** · 03-12-09, 11:05 PM

Originally posted by ryanXL977

lbj figured the refs would bail him out
he is such an awful shooter
so awful

the cavs have nothing inside
nothing at all
im telling you, they may be in trouble if they face orlando and boston back to back series. they better pray they get #1 seed

I've been a huge Cleveland fan for decades...

The Cav's cannot beat the Magic under any circumstances. The Magic have dominated them the past 3 years. Something about the Magic is kryptonite against LBJ. They play some type of 3 man zone that LBJ can't penetrate. They are athletic and can all create shots for themselves where Cleveland can't play help defense. Cleveland is a good team defense but are horrible man to man.

The Cav's match up better with the C's but no way can they beat both teams. They need the Celtics to beat the Magic then play the C's. They can beat any other team in the East but the Magic.

**ryanXL977** · 03-12-09, 11:06 PM

i agree with all that
i just cant believe they have no inside game

if your best inside player is anderson varejao, youre in for some shit

**Mac4Lyfe** · 03-12-09, 11:13 PM

Originally posted by ryanXL977

i have no clue which way this game goes
cavs have lef the whole time but never by more than 5 or 6
so its clearly gonna be a game

i swear the cavs just arent that good. i have noclue how they beat everyone, i never understand them
i understand how every other team in every sport wins
just not the cavs
i guess defense? cause lbj cant shoot. most overrate player in the league to me. another nba hype machine

LBJ is not hype... He IS the best player in the league. It's just that it looks so easy what he does that it's easy to overlook. While to you it looks like he's struggling tonight but he's having a great game nonetheless. Look at his defense on several plays and his assists setting up Mo and Z. The problem is that he's surrounded by stiffs. It's hard to play well when its you versus 4 or 5 guys. Opposing teams don't even guard half the Cav's and they focus 3 guys on Lebron every play. You can't do that with the Lakers of even the Heat. lebron has done much more with much less than any other player.

They also play better at home then the road. They are finally finding a way to win on the road and beat teams they're supposed to beat. In past years they wouldn't even try to win road games, now they expect to win. Mike Brown hasn't helped make the right adjustments and he just let's them play whereby he needs to help Lebron out. He continues to play bad lineups. Why is Boobie getting any PT??? He's been horrible the entire year and guys like Terrance Kinsey deserve a shot.

Ferry has been horrible in the Front office. It took forever for them to finally get a point guard in Mo. He didn't make any moves during the trading deadline even though guys were getting injured left and right.

Back to Lebron look at his 1st half stats...

Min FGM-A FTM-A 3PM-A Off
Reb Def
Reb Tot
Reb Asst Stl Blk TO PF Pts L James, F 19 6-10 3-5 2-3 3 1 4 7 1 2 1 0 17

Dude is a beast. He's 2 for 3 from 3. 60% from the field, has 7 assist and 4 boards already. Just because a few shots were ill advised don't let that take away from all the other intangibles. Those are game stats for most guys not for a half.

**ryanXL977** · 03-12-09, 11:16 PM

he isnt the best player to me
id take paul over him easily
i want a guy who can shoot
lbj cannot shoot

id take suns 2h here if i bet
i hope im wrong
but i think suns win

everybody has great stats vs the suns dude, what about his game vs the celts, the game you said cavs would win by dd
he was horrid
he cant shoot, period.

i concede lbj is top 5, but to me, its not CLOSE between him and kobe one is smart, one is dumb

**The_Kid** · 03-12-09, 11:19 PM

F*cking Cavs. These same Suns just lost to the f*cking Mavs. The Suns will f*ck me twice this week if they win. I can't believe this stupid sh*t.

**The_Kid** · 03-12-09, 11:21 PM

Suns are shooting 60% from the field. Are you f*cking kidding me? Can the Cavs play any defense at all?

**rowdy08** · 03-12-09, 11:22 PM

Remember guys this is the NBA where most games are deceided in the 4th

**The_Kid** · 03-12-09, 11:23 PM

That was a block. Steve Nash was in the restricted area.

rowdy, I don't like to sweat out games. Suns can bury a team once they get going and the Cavs aren't playing any defense whatsoever.

Great, they might have lost West for the game...

**ryanXL977** · 03-12-09, 11:25 PM

rowdy is right

**Slim** · 03-12-09, 11:25 PM

James just missed a dunk.

**rowdy08** · 03-12-09, 11:25 PM

Hell James can't shoot or dunk!

**The_Kid** · 03-12-09, 11:26 PM

Originally posted by ryanXL977

rowdy is right

Lebron ain't Kobe so I can't rely on the automatic jumper if it's close.

**MVFC182** · 03-12-09, 11:26 PM

Im on the under and was massively disappointed with the first half showing.

**rowdy08** · 03-12-09, 11:27 PM

What a shot by James is right

**rowdy08** · 03-12-09, 11:29 PM

Originally posted by The_Kid

Lebron ain't Kobe so I can't rely on the automatic jumper if it's close.

That's why I'm banking on Williams

**SportsTerminator** · 03-12-09, 11:30 PM

This just isn't right...Cleveland is suppose to be winning...they are starting to choke on the road...I'm staying away from tomorrows Cleveland at Sacremento...

**The_Kid** · 03-12-09, 11:35 PM

Originally posted by rowdy08

That's why I'm banking on Williams

Mo Williams was feeling it earlier but he's cooled off considerably. Maybe Gibson or Szcerbiak can get it going pretty soon.

If Lebron is out for the game, then the Cavs have no chance now.

**rowdy08** · 03-12-09, 11:40 PM

Kid, your right about Williams. He left after halftime. I still think the Cavs have a good chance with James.

**ryanXL977** · 03-12-09, 11:44 PM

suns will win this game

**rowdy08** · 03-12-09, 11:50 PM

Cavs!

**pat venditto** · 03-12-09, 11:51 PM

Originally posted by ryanXL977

the cavs think they can run and gun and then suddenly play d with 6 mins left
its plain as day what theyre trying to do

i have them at -200, i sure hope they pull it off

If your numbers are right and cavs win this 75% of the time there is no need to hope.

**rowdy08** · 03-12-09, 11:52 PM

**rowdy08** · 03-12-09, 11:58 PM

HAHA WTF was that PHX

**ryanXL977** · 03-12-09, 11:59 PM

ok
that block lbj made off the missed shot was amazing
that is unreal
he is a helluva a player, just not a good shooter, thats all.

**Mac4Lyfe** · 03-12-09, 11:59 PM

Originally posted by ryanXL977

he isnt the best player to me
id take paul over him easily
i want a guy who can shoot
lbj cannot shoot

id take suns 2h here if i bet
i hope im wrong
but i think suns win

everybody has great stats vs the suns dude, what about his game vs the celts, the game you said cavs would win by dd
he was horrid
he cant shoot, period.

i concede lbj is top 5, but to me, its not CLOSE between him and kobe one is smart, one is dumb

Lebron is 24 years old. You do know that MJ and Kobe were much worse shooters at that age. Are you watching the game? He's the only reason the Cav's are in this game let alone winning right now. Look at what Kobe has around him. He still hasn't won a title without Shaq. Lebron took Cleveland to a finals already with basically no help. He single handely beat the Pistons to get there. Last year they came down to the last 2 minutes of game 7 against the eventual winner in Boston. This was with a rag tag team that was put together, where they traded half their players.

I don't understand the hate. Cleveland was one of the worst teams in the league prior to Lebron. They now are one of the best. Do you think they got better because of Big Z, Verajao or Boobie.

Did you just see the block Lebron got on Richardson on a 360 jam? That's a 5 point play. Look at that hustle. Please quit hating, Lebron is making you look bad by the minute. He just stripped Shaq as I spoke.

**rowdy08** · 03-13-09, 12:00 AM

Ok James what the F was that...again

**ryanXL977** · 03-13-09, 12:00 AM

yes i saw the block

why cant i criticize something without you calling it hate. i dotn hate anyone. its just sports my man

i disagree with you that he is a good shooter, thats all