Clemson a great pretender?

unde0087 · 03-12-09, 02:42 PM

Just like Marquette

Fiasco · 03-12-09, 02:44 PM

no

coach rested starters a majority of the 1st half

and g tech is 1) at home and 2) playing well last 3 weeks

clemson is saving there energy for the ncaa tourney...

I disagree with the logic but...

Chi_archie · 03-12-09, 02:44 PM

?

ryanXL977 · 03-12-09, 02:44 PM

like marquette, notre dame, providence, etc

both conferences have 3-4 good teams.

Chi_archie · 03-12-09, 02:44 PM

you are comparing this game to the marquette game? how do you figure?

ryanXL977 · 03-12-09, 02:46 PM

i am comparing marq to clem,
acc has much better teams than clem

wake is as good as anyone in the BE, as is unc
how long are we going to do this? this is THE best yr that BE has ever had, and a below average yr for the ACC

Fiasco · 03-12-09, 02:47 PM

oliver prunnell (however you spell it) had 4 bench players on the court most of the 1st half

I watched the 1st half (had g tech +4.5)

didn't play halftime line but clemson looked like they were gonna pull away at the end of the half...

now I've switched over to marquette game (time to make a run)

Chi_archie · 03-12-09, 02:50 PM

I only was talking about one game and one team... you guys get sooo offended and bring the B.E in anytime I talk about a big 12, acc, or sec team....

I've made threads trying to get info and viewpoints from posters on Big east teams too.... you guys are just too sensitive...

just ignore that clemson is from the ACC... i'm just wondering if you guys think they will do good in the tourney and how did this team beat duke so bad....

if you can ignore their conference... I can ignore ridiculous statements like... clemson getting beat by a 2 conf team is comparable to marquette getting beat by a top 20 team...

Fiasco · 03-12-09, 02:51 PM

clemson is a sweet 16, maybe elite 8 team

but clemson has the rap around here as a team that will always start strong and finish weak...

there chokers

fiveteamer · 03-12-09, 02:52 PM

Looks like Ga Tech is shooting bt 55%.

bmw530i · 03-12-09, 02:53 PM

Coming up. Is Penn State worthy of -8.5 against anybody? It is the god awful Hoosiers.

ryanXL977 · 03-12-09, 02:53 PM

dude, like i always say, i dont give 2 shits about acc vs be
i live in pac10 country

i just see a fair amount of homer acc ripping posts out of you and i disagree with you

ive watched clem a lot, they are a sweet 16 team.

Chi_archie · 03-12-09, 02:53 PM

you think they can win 3 games in the tourney fiasco?

their resume just isn't that impressive against good teams

Chi_archie · 03-12-09, 02:55 PM

i'm not a homer...if anything ACC is one of my favorite conferences....I like to watch the scoring and great shooters... I hate the lack of defense though

Fiasco · 03-12-09, 02:55 PM

Originally posted by Chi_archie

you think they can win 3 games in the tourney fiasco?

their resume just isn't that impressive against good teams

1st round won't be against a "good" team

and yes I do think they can win 3...

they are chokers though so being upset in round 1 or 2 wouldn't be that much of a shock to me

oh and to answer why they destroyed duke it's because duke is overrated and desperately needs a big man

ryanXL977 · 03-12-09, 02:56 PM

charlie
i dont understand, why cant clem have a bad day? ul had a bad day vs marq 10 days ago, barely won
teams have bad days, clem is a good team. they are a lot like cuse, they can look very bad or great, like yesterday
i love cuse, i love the emotion they play with
clem reminds me of them

Chi_archie · 03-12-09, 03:03 PM

bad day vs g.t and losing does not compare to bad day against a good team and winning

Fiasco who are the top 5 ACC teams, that you like to go deep into the tourney?

ryanXL977 · 03-12-09, 03:05 PM

everybody has off days
everybody
clem is very up and down, i will say that.they have a bad ass inside guy and good perimeter play so it really depends on their 3's and their press.

theyre no wake or unc, but who is?

Chi_archie · 03-12-09, 03:05 PM

if "barely" winning doesn't count, then most if not all of clemson's non conf wins vs quality opponents don't count...

Fiasco · 03-12-09, 03:06 PM

1) UNC
2) Wake
3) Florida State
4) Clemson
5) Duke

ryanXL977 · 03-12-09, 03:07 PM

any win is a win, any loss is a loss. i dont know when i said barely winning, i generally try to stay away from using those terms bc to me, it doesnt matter how you win

texas tech barely won, had to have a guy hit 20 shots in a row, but it counted, i lost.

Chi_archie · 03-12-09, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by ryanXL977

charlie
i dont understand, why cant clem have a bad day? ul had a bad day vs marq 10 days ago, barely won
teams have bad days, clem is a good team. they are a lot like cuse, they can look very bad or great, like yesterday
i love cuse, i love the emotion they play with
clem reminds me of them

compared this possible loss to a shit team, to a "almost" loss to a very good team

I'm trying to stay out of an ACC sucks or ACC/BE contest again... can you just leave it alone?

its obvious the ACC is proving to be a bit weaker each day... I still think UNC is great...

ryanXL977 · 03-12-09, 03:14 PM

if you were staying out of the debate you wouldnt say the acc is weaker everyday.
every year people say this and every year the acc gets further than the BE in the tourney
every yr pitt loses in roudn 3, every year only uconn gets past round 4,

watch bc or fsu get further than pitt, wont suprise anyone

TPowell · 03-12-09, 03:16 PM

Marquette and Villanova would both beat Clemson. Clemson is garbage and I've said it since they were in the top 10. Where is unde and the other ACC fanboys?

Fiasco · 03-12-09, 03:19 PM

Originally posted by TPowell

Marquette and Villanova would both beat Clemson. Clemson is garbage and I've said it since they were in the top 10. Where is unde and the other ACC fanboys?

your the one with an acc (and POY) player in your avatar...

ryanXL977 · 03-12-09, 03:20 PM

Originally posted by TPowell

Marquette and Villanova would both beat Clemson. Clemson is garbage and I've said it since they were in the top 10. Where is unde and the other ACC fanboys?

who knows what would happen in hypothetical matchups
who, on either team, would keep booker and sykes from gettign 50 pts?

i hope we see unc vs ul in the finals, then we can end the ****ng debate

actually i hope its UW vs unc, those are the best teams!

tullamore · 03-12-09, 03:21 PM

I dont understand teams that when they are down they always look for the 3, take the ball to the basket, get the quick 2. And then foul to extend the game. GT is not a good FT shooting team. Clemson may have the talent to beat anyone, but they are not a smart team.

TPowell · 03-12-09, 03:22 PM

Since when is ****ing Sykes a threat to do anything outside of hurt you when you dont block him out??? Clemson is ****ing garbage, 1 and done probably. Would love to see a solid mid major facing them in the first round.

ryanXL977 · 03-12-09, 03:26 PM

is novanot one and done? is marquette? are we even sure pitt isnt? only ul and uconn are sure swet 16 or better

Chi_archie · 03-12-09, 03:29 PM

Originally posted by ryanXL977

if you were staying out of the debate you wouldnt say the acc is weaker everyday.
every year people say this and every year the acc gets further than the BE in the tourney
every yr pitt loses in roudn 3, every year only uconn gets past round 4,

watch bc or fsu get further than pitt, wont suprise anyone

first of all.... who is this straw man/men of EVERYONE... who said this??? about the BE/ACC over the last 10 years?

why are we talking about the past? do you really use trends and past performances of players/teams that no longer are playing to formulate your wagers and brackets??

I think you have a bad memory of last year's tourney... as ACC didn't do any better then BE in the tourney

tullamore · 03-12-09, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by ryanXL977

is novanot one and done? is marquette? are we even sure pitt isnt? only ul and uconn are sure swet 16 or better

Nothing is a sure thing. I have more confidence in Pitt, Uconn, and Lousiville making the sweet 16 over any 3 ACC teams. The Big East and Acc were the toughest conferences this year, it wouldn't surprise if a middle of the road team from one of these conference mad the sweet 16.

Guard play is key in the tournament, I could see a team like BC win 2 games and make the sweet 16.

Chi_archie · 03-12-09, 03:33 PM

how did ACC clearly do better then the BE in last years tourney?

Fiasco · 03-12-09, 03:33 PM

unc has the best pg in the nation

he may be out of the acc tourney though (aka bet v tech + points tomorrow)

Chi_archie · 03-12-09, 03:37 PM

I like lawson alot....I like great pg's