If you pick your Final Four, these teams better be in it.

**ItchyHooHoo** · 03-07-09, 11:29 AM

Originally posted by blackbart

Now or never teams have a lethal combination of savvy senior leadership and pro-caliber talent. And Gonzaga, Louisville, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Pittsburgh UCLA and UConn are the only teams in the likely field of 64 with at least two seniors starting and two NBA-bound players next season.

Six of the past eight teams that played for the title were now or nevers, including Kansas and Memphis last year, Ohio State in 2007, UCLA in 2006 and Illinois and North Carolina in 2005. Meanwhile, since 2005, 14 now or never teams have made the tourney, and only three of those lost in the first round.

now or nevers

combined they have like 12,000 wins

**raydog** · 03-07-09, 11:33 AM

gonzaga showed how good they are by getting humiliated by a so-called weak memphis team by 769058604787 pts at home. ucla...blahahahahaha

**daggerkobe** · 03-07-09, 12:17 PM

Final 4: UNC, Pitts, UCLA, Louisville

**blackbart** · 03-08-09, 12:52 AM

Originally posted by daggerkobe

Final 4: UNC, Pitts, UCLA, Louisville

looks good

**Vince Carter** · 03-08-09, 01:49 AM

UCLA isn't going to make it.

**daggerkobe** · 03-08-09, 01:52 AM

Sure, its not like UCLA made the final 4 the past 3 seasons or anything.

**tullamore** · 03-08-09, 01:53 AM

Gonzaga and UCLA are going to have a hard time making the Sweet 16, never mind the Final Four.

**rezkoness69** · 03-08-09, 03:03 AM

(assuming they are all in different brackets) the final four will be: Pitt(champion) Mich. St., Louisville, UNC..............to me, these are the four best teams in the nation if you look at matchups.....I think any of the above mentioned teams can beat Uconn, Memphis, or any other team that has been mentioned

**MonkeyF0cker** · 03-08-09, 03:16 AM

Originally posted by daggerkobe

Sure, its not like UCLA made the final 4 the past 3 seasons or anything.

What do the last 3 seasons have to do with this season?

**Vince Carter** · 03-08-09, 03:33 AM

Originally posted by daggerkobe

Sure, its not like UCLA made the final 4 the past 3 seasons or anything.

what a ****ing idiot look how much younger this year's ucla team is compared to the ones from the previous 3-4 years..all they have left is shipp and collison

**daggerkobe** · 03-08-09, 03:48 AM

Yeah UCLA is an infant team what with 7 seniors, and top 4 scorers being Sr or Jr. Not to mention freshman Holiday who is projected as a lottery pick.

And youve obviously never watched a Ben Howland coached UCLA the past 3 final 4 appearances as they got there with their gritty defense rather than offense.

Howd u like going 0-2 fading me today moron?

**Vince Carter** · 03-08-09, 03:50 AM

have you ever been to ucla games?

keep reading your stats sheet off to me

**Mac4Lyfe** · 03-08-09, 03:56 AM

Pitt will be sitting home early, mark my words. No way they make the final four. I'd be willing to bet that no Big East team make it to the championship game... UNC is the best choice to be in the final four but they are known to choke once there.

I disagree with the seniors argument. I don't think it's seniors that get you there because the best players never stay in the game long enough to become seniors. It's all about guard play, reducing turnovers and having an inside/outside game. Without these, you'll never make it far in the tourney, I don't care how old your guys are.

**daggerkobe** · 03-08-09, 03:56 AM

Have followed UCLA since before u were hatched in a test tube.... since the 80s.

**Vince Carter** · 03-08-09, 04:01 AM

Originally posted by daggerkobe

Have followed UCLA since before u were hatched in a test tube.... since the 80s.

old ****

**daggerkobe** · 03-08-09, 04:03 AM

Not that old, just wiser than u.

**daggerkobe** · 03-08-09, 04:04 AM

Oh and I think i know whose ghost u belong to.

**krk1030** · 03-08-09, 06:01 AM

Well that works, my 4 are listed.

louisville
pitt
uconn
unc

**blackbart** · 03-08-09, 06:03 PM

i think big east makes the final

**mdemps9190** · 03-09-09, 07:18 AM

I'm a huge UCLA fan but I really don't think that they make it. And I was high on Michigan State until they looked pretty average against a Purdue team that I think is overrated. This is one of the hardest final four to predict for me. I think UNC will definitely be there, Louisville, Memphis, and I'm not realy sure about the last. I don't think Pitt will be there, nor Uconn. If Griffin is working the game, then Oklahoma could sneak in as well, but if he's not up to his stud status, then they are screwed.