Bronco's ****ed up...Tried to trade Cutler for Cassel and it didn't work out

[purecarnagge]

And now Cutler wants out...after being betrayed by his new head coach only 7 weeks in....

This is ugly...

[fiveteamvids]

LOLZ, why the fukk would the Pats take Cutler...

[j0hnnyv]

they werent gonna get cutler, there were other teams involved

Per both reports, the Bucs and Broncos were trying to swing a three-way deal pursuant to which Matt Cassel would have been traded from the Pats to the Broncos, Cutler would have gone from Denver to Tampa, and the Patriots would have been compensated presumably by the Buccaneers.

[JBC77]

Haven't seen the headline, is this an official story carnage?

[j0hnnyv]

its very official, espn.com profootballtalk.com you name it they reporting it.

pats traded cassell AND vrabel to chiefs for ONLY the chiefs 2nd rd pick (34th overall)

Scott Paoli 1 Patriots 0

Thats strongarm robbery!!!

[BandwagonFan]

Broncos are the most popular team in town and even the smallest Bronco news makes the top headlines. This has been the #1 story on all newscasts. Personally, I'm not a Broncos fan, but I don't quite understand why they would want to get rid or Cutler and take a risk on a one hit wonder in Casell. I love Cutler and the QB play is not the reason why they have been chitty that last couple years.

Anyway, check it out. top headlines on all media in Denver. denverpost.com 9news.com

Go Vikes!

[DeluxeLiner]

Early in the day i hear they get dawkins to help with the defense. I think he is a pretty good aquisition, and he wasn't too expensive. The Cutler move baffles me, I think he is a pretty good up and comer and already has what it takes for a playoff run (If they can put together at least a mediocre defense)

Denver should be focusing on shoring up there weak spots rather than trying to trade off Cutler. I still think they need to draft a good rb (they picked up buckhalter and arrignton, not impressed)

[slacker00]

Cassell is another Scott Mitchell. Pats are lucky to get anything. Vrable is worth more than Cassell. But Vrable only a role player at the end of his career. The Chiefs probably overpaid, but it's not the end of the world.

[purecarnagge]

They wanted Cassel because the head coach knows Cassel can thrive in his offensive system.

Ever notice what went wrong with the Bronco's? After ( I don't know his name god rest his soul) passed away. Bailey, Bly didn't seem to get that over the top help CB's sometimes need. They didn't have that ball hawking saftey. They had guys back there trying not to get embarrassed on national tv.

I've always thought the Bronco's pass D just needed 1 more good saftey back there. Now they have it.

Also I expect DT and LB to be mainly what they draft this year. They need to revamp there front 7 big time.

[slacker00]

Ever notice what went wrong with the Bronco's?

No QB pressure. It doesn't matter how good the secondary is if you can't get to the QB.

[slacker00]

http://blogs.nbcsports.com/home/archives/2009/02/reports-broncos-entertained-tr.html

http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/

I don't think the Lions, Bucs or Broncos were serious players in this deal. One thing, the trade was made without Cassell negotiating a contract. I think the Pats were smart to ink this trade without it getting too complicated as far as being a sign & trade or a 3-way deal. I can't see anyone giving up a 1st rounder for Cassell anyway. #34 overall is as good as gold.

[element1286]

This seems ridiculous. Cutler is younger, more experienced, and has more upside. I don't know why they would trade him for a guy who has started one season since high school.

[frostno98]

They should fire this stupid head coach just for entertaining that idea. I'll be quit being Broncos fan until this McJack@ss got fire being such a dumb@ss. How the hell are you going to compare a one year wonder QB in Cassel with very good supporting cast, against a one main gang in Cutler. Just imagine how good Denver would be if the entire weight of the team isn't falling on this young 25 year old QB every game, he would be even better.

[DeluxeLiner]

They should fire this stupid head coach just for entertaining that idea. I'll be quit being Broncos fan until this McJack@ss got fire being such a dumb@ss. How the hell are you going to compare a one year wonder QB in Cassel with very good supporting cast, against a one main gang in Cutler. Just imagine how good Denver would be if the entire weight of the team isn't falling on this young 25 year old QB every game, he would be even better.

Totally agree

[crisp]

cutler's a gimp. guy has diabetes. he's the weak link.

[purecarnagge]

Diabetes doesn't mean anything, but why would you trade cutler for Cassel? Cassel is not better than Cutler... Unless your getting picks which they wouldn't have been.

This is a very bad situation and I could see Cutler holding out...If Cutler holds out then the head coach is done for. Think about this new guys trying to learn a new system and the starting QB refuses to practice....

[slacker00]

Can you imagine if Cutler had been the starting QB for the Pats rather than Cassell this past year? He'd have broken all of Brady's records from the previous season.

I can't wait to see Cassell flop. He's probably a nice enough guy, but this hype about him being anything more than a backup is just silly.

[Slim]

Have you watched Cutler play last year? He sucked monster balls. Broncos should draft a QB with their first pick anyways.

[Scorpion]

They should fire this stupid head coach just for entertaining that idea. I'll be quit being Broncos fan until this McJack@ss got fire being such a dumb@ss. How the hell are you going to compare a one year wonder QB in Cassel with very good supporting cast, against a one main gang in Cutler. Just imagine how good Denver would be if the entire weight of the team isn't falling on this young 25 year old QB every game, he would be even better.

I agree

very stupid

[slacker00]

Have you watched Cutler play last year? He sucked monster balls. Broncos should draft a QB with their first pick anyways.

:Yes. He's easily top 10 in the NFL, if not top 5. What were you watching? He carried that team without a RB or a defense.

[VegasDave]

While the Broncos were exceptionally stupid, I think Cutler is being a crybaby, too. In professional sports, player's names get tossed around in trades all the time. No player is untradeable at the right price. If a team calls and asks about one of your players, you listen.

If a team makes a great offer for your guy that makes you realistically consider trading him a possibility, you call up some other teams and see if they want to try and beat the price you were offered. It is business.

Again, I'm not saying the Broncos were right here, but they have invited Cutler to sit down and discuss what happened and he said "No, I'm not going to do that, since I'm on the trade block and all".

Are you in 2nd grade?

[frostno98]

Have you watched Cutler play last year? He sucked monster balls. Broncos should draft a QB with their first pick anyways.

You must be a raider fan.

[purecarnagge]

While the Broncos were exceptionally stupid, I think Cutler is being a crybaby, too. In professional sports, player's names get tossed around in trades all the time. No player is untradeable at the right price. If a team calls and asks about one of your players, you listen.

If a team makes a great offer for your guy that makes you realistically consider trading him a possibility, you call up some other teams and see if they want to try and beat the price you were offered. It is business.

Again, I'm not saying the Broncos were right here, but they have invited Cutler to sit down and discuss what happened and he said "No, I'm not going to do that, since I'm on the trade block and all".

Are you in 2nd grade?

Your insane if you think the Bronco's weren't shopping him. This wasn' the patriots called and said hey lets take cutler for cassell...who the **** you think made the calls and put him out there!!! It was not the patriots. They don't want cutler.

Cutler looks good on paper but in reality they had no running game this year and he's turnover happy when it matters. I think in 2 years he'll be a fine QB.

I think he's genuinely pissed off. He has a right to be so. His new coach of 7 weeks already put him on the trade block. Just because the deal never came through doesn't mean you have to sit there and be lied to.

When you come into a new organization whats the first thing you do, get the starting QB on board with you. Do you think you do that and say hey in FA this year were gonna shop you around and see what we can get for you so I can try to bring my boy over to us maybe get some picks for rebuilding our D. How do you feel about that?

[durito]

big **** up from a young coach before his first game.

great QB's in the NFL are very hard to find. cutler isn't there yet, but he could be. as a broncos fan, i really hope he's still in denver to do it.

[DeluxeLiner]

Let's think about this logically. Teams WERE NOT calling Denver asking for Cutler. Teams would assume that Denver would not trade their best player. Being a QB is all about having confidence, and the difference between this trade and others is that Cutler is a pro bowl QB, has a bright future and basically feels like he was being told that "Yea this guy over here in Boston, he is better than you...so if we can get him, then you are outta here" It's hard to play for a new coach when the coach obviously doesn't believe in your talent or your developing talent. I would be pissed too, that my new coach thinks I suck and now I am going to play for this guy and his bs new system when he thinks I suck.

[VegasDave]

Ok, so they were shopping him.

Which again isn't cool... but great players get shopped all the time, and sometimes they even get traded. I stand by the fact that he needs to just get over it and not take it so personally.

[frostno98]

The Broncos are in a Mess right now. You got that Cutler thing. Them picking a 35 year old safety in Dawkins. Brandon Marshall being arrested again, he's will definitely be suspended for eight games now. MCJack@SS is so unpredictable, he's probably looking to trade or cut Brandon Marshall too!

[slacker00]

You must be a raider fan.

I'm a Colts & Packers fan. I'm not speaking as a fan at all on this issue though.

If anything, I think the Pats leaked this whole "secret" and started this whole mess. Maybe payback from Belichick to McDaniels for leaving?

Cutler made the Pro Bowl this year. His stats are fine. He's got great potential regardless of whether or not he's a crybaby. I'm not sure why you are dogging him so bad.

[purecarnagge]

Ok, so they were shopping him.

Which again isn't cool... but great players get shopped all the time, and sometimes they even get traded. I stand by the fact that he needs to just get over it and not take it so personally.

Thanks for posting what you already said in your previous post again. I mean posting it twice makes it all that more better.

Can you go for 3 strikes your out?

[VegasDave]

Thanks for posting what you already said in your previous post again. I mean posting it twice makes it all that more better.

Can you go for 3 strikes your out?

I'm just saying, the guy needs to grow up and start acting like a professional. (There's 3)

EDIT: Apparently I'm not the only one:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&id=3946294&sportCat=nfl

[DeluxeLiner]

Tyson Chandler seems to have dealt with his trade fiasco pretty well...and that situation was way worse. But different people, different circumstances (Tyson understands that it was all about salaries and cap space). So iono sort of useless to bring up, but still.