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  • Snowball
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    • 11-15-09
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    #1
    Clemson Tigers to Win +130 write-up
    Orange Bowl 2014
    Miami Gardens 8:30pm EST
    Ohio State (7) vs. Clemson (12)
    TV: ESPN
    Culver Line: Ohio State -3

    Ohio St is covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/ncf/injury/injuries.html
    Clemson has the 12th most effective passing game
    overall, avg. 329.3 ypg. You have to figure the Tigers
    will be putting up points thru the air tonight.
    So we flip over to Ohio St's passing attack, as
    they will likely have to throw the ball, and what do
    we have: Ohio St ranks 90th in pass, only 200.9
    ypg, vs Clemson pass defense rank 15th, only allowing
    198.3 ypg.
    The Orange Bowl is not a good place
    for youngsters to pick up experience, which is exactly
    what Ohio St will be relegated to doing tonight.

    Neither the public nor the linesmakers have been sharp
    this bowl season. Ignore the false favorite line.
    Public is running 64-65% in favor of Ohio State.

    In this setup we should not expect Ohio St to be
    capable of keeping pace with Clemson's scoring.


    Pick: Clemson to Win +130.

  • Chi_archie
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    • 07-22-08
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    #2
    good write up!

    my only question is in regards to the Ohio State pass game rankings. Maybe they just didn't rack up a huge numbers because they blew so many teams out early in non-conf and soft conf games?

    rankings might not tell the whole story.
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    • bubblebuttluv
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      • 11-13-12
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      #3
      My only question is if Tahj Boyd has to settle up with his bookies tonight like he did against FSU.
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      • Big Bear
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        • 11-01-11
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        #4
        looks like the whole board is on Clemson
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        • BigdaddyQH
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          • 07-13-09
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          #5
          Probably because the whole board is getting tired of being burned by favorites (0-5 in the last 5 games, 1-7 in the last 8). Snow's wirte up is good, but there are many questions left unanswered like Chi's question about the Ohio State Defense. With a total sitting at 71 in Vegas now, it looks like neither team has much of a defense to write home about. I think a lot of that has to do with just two games, so I am thinking about taking the Under.
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          • Snowball
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            #6
            Originally posted by Chi_archie
            good write up!

            my only question is in regards to the Ohio State pass game rankings. Maybe they just didn't rack up a huge numbers because they blew so many teams out early in non-conf and soft conf games?

            rankings might not tell the whole story.
            QB comparison:

            Tajh Boyd (Clemson) Senior
            GP 12 PAT 377 COMP 252 YDS 3473 PCT 67.6 TDS 29 INT 9

            Braxton Miller (Ohio St) Junior
            GP 11 PAT 231 COMP 146 YDS 1860 PCT 63.2 TDS 22 INT 5

            Clemson pass defense 15th, YPG 198.3
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            • inTomWeTrust
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              • 10-20-13
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              #7
              ...

              Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
              Probably because the whole board is getting tired of being burned by favorites (0-5 in the last 5 games, 1-7 in the last 8). Snow's wirte up is good, but there are many questions left unanswered like Chi's question about the Ohio State Defense. With a total sitting at 71 in Vegas now, it looks like neither team has much of a defense to write home about. I think a lot of that has to do with just two games, so I am thinking about taking the Under.
              I like Clemson in this spot to cover myself....

              But let me ask you a question... when was the last time the PUBLIC Covered in a public BOWL Game this year

              I would love to know..


              please tell me


              If its what i think it is.. ill prolly go all in on ohio state
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              • Wilfred
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                #8
                Why do you think Ohio State will need to pass exactly? Think Clemson can stop Hyde and Miller?
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                • bystrow
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                  • 01-08-13
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Snowball
                  QB comparison:

                  Tajh Boyd (Clemson) Senior
                  GP 12 PAT 377 COMP 252 YDS 3473 PCT 67.6 TDS 29 INT 9

                  Braxton Miller (Ohio St) Junior
                  GP 11 PAT 231 COMP 146 YDS 1860 PCT 63.2 TDS 22 INT 5

                  Clemson pass defense 15th, YPG 198.3
                  yeah, but Ohio States strength is clearly the running game with Braxton Miller and Carlos Hyde. Ohio State ranks #3 in the country with Clemsons rushing D# @ 50.
                  But what concerns me about Ohio State is their defense. I'm looking for Boyd to have a big game as Ohio States Pass Defense is ranked #103 in the NCAA. Therefore I'm stick with Clemson to win this game too.
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                  • inTomWeTrust
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                    • 10-20-13
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                    #10
                    ???????
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                    • inTomWeTrust
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
                      Probably because the whole board is getting tired of being burned by favorites (0-5 in the last 5 games, 1-7 in the last 8). Snow's wirte up is good, but there are many questions left unanswered like Chi's question about the Ohio State Defense. With a total sitting at 71 in Vegas now, it looks like neither team has much of a defense to write home about. I think a lot of that has to do with just two games, so I am thinking about taking the Under.
                      I like Clemson in this spot to cover myself....
                      But let me ask you a question... when was the last time the PUBLIC Covered in a public BOWL Game this year

                      I would love to know..


                      please tell me


                      If its what i think it is.. ill prolly go all in on ohio state
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                      • bystrow
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                        • 01-08-13
                        • 107

                        #12
                        Originally posted by inTomWeTrust
                        I like Clemson in this spot to cover myself....

                        But let me ask you a question... when was the last time the PUBLIC Covered in a public BOWL Game this year

                        I would love to know..


                        please tell me


                        If its what i think it is.. ill prolly go all in on ohio state
                        According to Sportsinsights about 60% of the public money is on Ohio State thus far.
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                        • inTomWeTrust
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                          • 10-20-13
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                          #13
                          How many public favorites have covered in bowl games this year in primetime spots?!?!!??!!?
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                          • inTomWeTrust
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                            • 10-20-13
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                            #14
                            NONE you cant let the public get smashed every game
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                            • Big Bear
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                              • 11-01-11
                              • 43253

                              #15
                              Originally posted by bystrow
                              According to Sportsinsights about 60% of the public money is on Ohio State thus far.
                              60% is not alarming. Rarely is there ever 50/50 action on a game.

                              if it was 70% i would start to wonder if the fix is in
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                              • inTomWeTrust
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                                • 10-20-13
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                                #16
                                Why arent u answering my questions?!!?!!? Dont u get they cant let the PUBLIC get squashed on everyone ??? LSU Alabama.. texas a & m arizona state.. the list goes on .. COME ON answer me
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                                • Wilfred
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                                  • 08-19-12
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                                  #17
                                  I think Vegas wants to win every time. They will never let the public win, especially on a BCS game.
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                                  • Hot Jerry
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                                    • 08-16-13
                                    • 5545

                                    #18
                                    Public is also RIGHT once in a while and this is one of the games where public is RIGHT !! Ohio St. 27 - Clem 16 , final score !!
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                                    • PaperTrail07
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                                      • 08-29-08
                                      • 20423

                                      #19
                                      Boyd will get hit and go out of the game===Backup is from Dublin, Ohio....he wont stand a penetrating chance in there lmao....
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                                      • inTomWeTrust
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                                        • 10-20-13
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                                        #20
                                        thats false.. you have to give the public one... IM TELLING YOU
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                                        • inTomWeTrust
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
                                          Probably because the whole board is getting tired of being burned by favorites (0-5 in the last 5 games, 1-7 in the last 8). Snow's wirte up is good, but there are many questions left unanswered like Chi's question about the Ohio State Defense. With a total sitting at 71 in Vegas now, it looks like neither team has much of a defense to write home about. I think a lot of that has to do with just two games, so I am thinking about taking the Under.
                                          I like Clemson in this spot to cover myself....

                                          But let me ask you a question... when was the last time the PUBLIC Covered in a public BOWL Game this year

                                          I would love to know..


                                          please tell me


                                          If its what i think it is.. ill prolly go all in on ohio state

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                                          LSU, Texas A and M alabama az state.. list goes on... vegas cant let it happen all the time
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                                          • Tommy Karate
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                                            • 10-12-13
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                                            #22
                                            sammy watkins is a beast.....he is going to abuse that secondary.
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                                            • GT21Megatron
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                                              • 12-20-13
                                              • 10818

                                              #23
                                              Ohio St is the better team in the better conference. Its that simple. Urban Meyer > Dabo is the icing on the cake. I'm pretty sure Ohio State has heard all about there defense sucking for the past month so we will see what happens
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                                              • Snowball
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                                                • 11-15-09
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                                                #24
                                                Ohio State has the name recognition, the misleading rank advantage,
                                                and the marginal line.. that's why most bettors are on Ohio State.
                                                Realize a good % of the public is casual, they will go with the favorite
                                                most of the time, and not dig for info. Also the bet % is not by dollar amount.
                                                If you consider also how dull the vegas linesmakers have been this bowl season,
                                                the lines have been way off. Deducing from this is why I went ML and not +3.
                                                The reasons for the side pick itself have nothing to do with any of that.
                                                Clemson is going to put up a lot of points tonight. Ohio will be forced to make
                                                fast yardage via passing. It won't work. The team which puts up the most points wins.
                                                As plain as that sounds, it's something never to lose sight of.
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                                                • inTomWeTrust
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                                                  • 10-20-13
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Snowball
                                                  Ohio State has the name recognition, the misleading rank advantage,
                                                  and the marginal line.. that's why most bettors are on Ohio State.
                                                  Realize a good % of the public is casual, they will go with the favorite
                                                  most of the time, and not dig for info. Also the bet % is not by dollar amount.
                                                  If you consider also how dull the vegas linesmakers have been this bowl season,
                                                  the lines have been way off. Deducing from this is why I went ML and not +3.
                                                  The reasons for the side pick itself have nothing to do with any of that.
                                                  Clemson is going to put up a lot of points tonight. Ohio will be forced to make
                                                  fast yardage via passing. It won't work. The team which puts up the most points wins.
                                                  As plain as that sounds, it's something never to lose sight of.



                                                  Trust is.... I agree 100% with everything you're saying...


                                                  Here is what youre not comprehending....


                                                  Public got Burried on LSU

                                                  Public got Buried on ASU

                                                  Public got buried Texas A and M

                                                  Public got buried on Alabama




                                                  in primetime spots... and you think its gonna happen
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                                                  • inTomWeTrust
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                                                    #26
                                                    do you get that?
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                                                    • Wilfred
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                                                      • 08-19-12
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                                                      #27
                                                      Just because Clemson scores doesn't mean Ohio State is going to start passing. Braxton and Hyde both averaged over 6 YPC against Michigan state so I don't see Clemson slowing them down.
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                                                      • onacloud
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                                                        • 10-14-10
                                                        • 5360

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by inTomWeTrust



                                                        Trust is.... I agree 100% with everything you're saying...

                                                        Here is what youre not comprehending....


                                                        Public got Burried on LSU

                                                        Public got Buried on ASU

                                                        Public got buried Texas A and M

                                                        Public got buried on Alabama




                                                        in primetime spots... and you think its gonna happen

                                                        What does the LSU ASU TEXAS A&M or BAMA games have to do with the Clemson vs OSU game? Please explain that because I don't comprehend how those gave have anything to do with this match-up?

                                                        SBR really just gets worse and worse
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                                                        • inTomWeTrust
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                                                          #29
                                                          ????
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                                                          • inTomWeTrust
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by onacloud
                                                            What does the LSU ASU TEXAS A&M or BAMA games have to do with the Clemson vs OSU game? Please explain that because I don't comprehend how those gave have anything to do with this match-up?

                                                            SBR really just gets worse and worse




                                                            Has everything to do with BOWL GAME Public Picks in Primetime Spots... and VEGAS raking in the $ already
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                                                            • firedawg
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                                                              #31
                                                              in tom is a retard... pay him no mind
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                                                              • inTomWeTrust
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                                                                #32
                                                                You think they can let the public get squashed on everyone
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                                                                • TonyTall
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                                                                  • 08-21-13
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                                                  Boyd will get hit and go out of the game===Backup is from Dublin, Ohio....he wont stand a penetrating chance in there lmao....

                                                                  this isnt that far off. they seem to run boyd a lot in big games and he takes an absolute pounding. i remember him hobbling around the field versus FSU like tyson just hit him. he ran it 14 times versus fsu and 15 times versus s.carolina........
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                                                                  • inTomWeTrust
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                                                                    • 10-20-13
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                                                                    #34




                                                                    can SOMEONE Please TELL ME What most of the PUBLIC is on TONIGHT in terms of % with everything inclubding both mizzou and ohio state game please??



                                                                    Im telling you right now whatever public is heavy on tonight im probably going with....

                                                                    despite loving CLEMSON..

                                                                    PLEASE anyone??
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                                                                    • firedawg
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      toooooooooooooooooooooootttttttttttttttt tt ttttttttttttttttttttttoooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooootttttttttttt
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